Anniversary Jubilee Crates are now worthless!

Dragonnord

People complain that the economy is destroyed by the drops of this type of events, then people complain if drops are nerfed.

People...

XSTRONG

They nerfed the Archival provisioning container but did they nerf Imperial fragment container to?

Dimorphos

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Just want to be clear here, while we know the change in the drop rate from the hotfix is frustrating, we were returning the drop rate to be inline with previous Anniversary Jubilee events.

I do not doubt ZOS_KEVIN's honesty, but I might suggest that a little up tune for drop rates would be a welcome thing.

I just opened approx. 100 anniversary boxes after doing my daily crafting and only got few furnishing recipes worth 2-5K gold and 2-4 gold materials of which 2 was tempering alloys which are worth around 4K gold. Out of 100 boxes I must say this drop rate for worthy materials is not enough for me to go after these boxes. Before the nerf I did a lot of daily quests because now it was worth the time and I returned to areas and towns I had not visited for a long time and that was good. I think I will not be doing these dailies anymore because the time invested is not worth it and those anniversary boxes mostly just gives trash and takes space in your bags.

We should be celebrating ESO 10 year anniversary here. Is it really necessary that the drop rates have to match previous years There could be just a little extra involved just for this year. @ZOS_Kevin , let us celebrate and let us enjoy nice gift boxes. A little tune up is all we ask.

antihero_kazuma

I'm still getting a ton of motifs from this event, however I wish the rate was lowered on worm cult motifs. At this point it's a participation medal just like previous years. I feel like three years ago it was such a low drop that it was worth selling now it's just taking up inventory space.

As a crafter I absolutely love all the style mats that are dropping, however all the bound furnishings will be destroyed by the end of the event. Not a huge fan. Maybe make them sellable. It's not too late.

Was there a patch note anywhere saying the gold mats were going to be nerfed at all? Aetherial dust etc.

liliub17_ESO

I noticed a small change in the loot but nothing worth coming to the forums and fussing about. On accts (2 NA/2 EU) am still receiving less common crafting materials as well as some slightly more common. Am still receiving the new motifs as well as others. Have gotten several of the jubilee confetti which should have dropped last year and didn't, so really happy about that!

I'm pretty much only doing the crafting writs for boxes on one character each acct - I simply don't have the time or inclination for more during the work week. The established accounts receive decent goodies - the new accounts receive goodies otherwise not available to them.

Only complaint I have is purple and gold leads are dropping for my new characters like they're candy - with no way to capitalize on the drop. This has happened at both events now and is really annoying. Wish ZOS would understand that some of us do not spend every waking moment in-game to level as quickly as possible in all ways min/max.

HybridFreak

I've been farming the boxes like crazy since the event started trying to get an aetherial cipher. Before the nerf, I was at least getting some cool/interesting and rare mats. Now, after the hot fix, it's ALL complete garbage and zero point in farming them now. The only good thing about this, is that you pulled this crap 2 days before my ESO+ is set to renew. So, see you guys in another 3-4 years. Maybe next time ZOS will finally have their *** together.

licenturion

Yeah I go back to just doing daily writs, ticket and endeavours now and call it a day. RIP event.

The stuff in my boxes now is all random white or green crap, the same green/blue recipes over and over or the 15th bound anniversary furniture item. No motifs, no yellows or interesting stuff anymore.

The previous events and pre patch were much much better. Hopefully the stream lives up to the expectation because otherwise this will be a very low week for ESO in my book.

DenverRalphy

DragonRacer wrote: »

There is definitely a TON of bound Jubilee furnishings, which I do not know how to feel about that. I'm basically getting one per box on all my crafting dailies, which is taking away a loot slot from literally anything else. The occasional furnishing is fine/cool, but I am seriously talking 5-6 furnishings per toon out of what, seven crafting dailies?

Furnishings drop alongside the other types of loot. If you get a furnishing, it doesn't block or prohibit any other possible loot (well except for the other furnishings of course).

BretonMage

I'm getting the impression that motif/plan drops are scarcer this year than last. Last year, I kept making trips to the bank to deposit my excess motifs; this year I've placed a few on sale for cheap, learnt a couple, but it's been mostly very basic materials, like 1 rekuta, 1 embroidery, and 10 ruby ash.

Jubilee furnishings get marked as junk and destroyed with a click. I mean, they're alright, but pink rose wreaths aren't really versatile decorations.

ShutUpitsRed

On the bright side, there's so much less incentive for farming boxes I don't get fomo not farming boxes/playing eso in all my free time!

sarahthes

BretonMage wrote: »

I'm getting the impression that motif/plan drops are scarcer this year than last. Last year, I kept making trips to the bank to deposit my excess motifs; this year I've placed a few on sale for cheap, learnt a couple, but it's been mostly very basic materials, like 1 rekuta, 1 embroidery, and 10 ruby ash.

Jubilee furnishings get marked as junk and destroyed with a click. I mean, they're alright, but pink rose wreaths aren't really versatile decorations.

They are not. A week in and my motif mule is almost full, and all I've been doing is writs. I cleared out motifs a week before the event also.

The rng and loot table is the same as it always was. I think it may have been accidentally elevated for the entire event last year which contributes to people feeling that it's nerfed. But my drops are 100% in line with previous anniversary events, and this is my 7th or 8th event.

wolfie1.0.

Bound furnishings are just horrible honestly. Can't even decon them. Only thing to do with em is to store them in a house until needed or destroy.

Vulkunne

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I agree. I feel like they watered them down from past events and now they do this. If I wanted generic mats, I'd just farm or buy some.

Well said. I'm glad to know they nerfed the rewards too cause now I can work on more important things.

Vulkunne

DragonRacer wrote: »

There is definitely a TON of bound Jubilee furnishings, which I do not know how to feel about that. I'm basically getting one per box on all my crafting dailies, which is taking away a loot slot from literally anything else. The occasional furnishing is fine/cool, but I am seriously talking 5-6 furnishings per toon out of what, seven crafting dailies?

Yeah, I just delete them. If I can't sell, I delete.

DragonRacer

DenverRalphy wrote: »

DragonRacer wrote: »

There is definitely a TON of bound Jubilee furnishings, which I do not know how to feel about that. I'm basically getting one per box on all my crafting dailies, which is taking away a loot slot from literally anything else. The occasional furnishing is fine/cool, but I am seriously talking 5-6 furnishings per toon out of what, seven crafting dailies?

Furnishings drop alongside the other types of loot. If you get a furnishing, it doesn't block or prohibit any other possible loot (well except for the other furnishings of course).

Well, that's good to hear, at least. I much rather get furnishing mats, perfect roe, etc than bound furnishings.

BretonMage

sarahthes wrote: »

The rng and loot table is the same as it always was. I think it may have been accidentally elevated for the entire event last year which contributes to people feeling that it's nerfed. But my drops are 100% in line with previous anniversary events, and this is my 7th or 8th event.

I rather enjoyed last year's boxes tbh

Munkfist

Dragonnord wrote: »

People complain that the economy is destroyed by the drops of this type of events, then people complain if drops are nerfed.

People...

Perfectly spot on. No matter what they do, the complaints will flood the forums.

Today's boxes have been just as great as usual. Many motif pages and materials, and little effort for it.

katanagirl1

I know it’s all random, but last year I got a few Eyes of Mora style mats and I have got zero this year, despite doing all daily crafting quests on 9 characters instead of the 5 characters I did last year.

DenverRalphy

I did two Craglorn runs today. Each time I started and ended with an Ambrosia which is 50 minutes. 52 boxes the first time, 53 boxes the 2nd time. 1st run netted 5 motifs, and 2nd run netted 6. I did not include the Ra Gada motifs that I looted along the way. That's basically 1 motif every 10 boxes. Including a Buoyant Armiger that I didn't yet have and a couple Coldsnap that I did already have (but worth good coin). And surprisingly, none of them were Worm Cult.

And then there was 2 diminished dust and one aetherial dust. A couple of nirncrux (one of each type). And a smattering of some decent DLC furnishing plans. And that's not even taking into account all the crafting/style materials in every box (I'm so happy to see my supply of Dragon Rheum being restocked).

And yes, there was some junk to wade through as well. But all in all, I wouldn't call them worthless.

LordJaxsom

I logged in yesterday and did my crafting dailies. I got an Aetheric Cypher in my rewards. Drop rate is fine and ok with me!

Reginald_leBlem

They aren't even unique furnishings, you can buy them from the achievement vendor for not a lot of gold

valenwood_vegan

Perhaps the issue here has more to do with their poor rng system producing vastly different outcomes for different players.

freespirit

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I know it’s all random, but last year I got a few Eyes of Mora style mats and I have got zero this year, despite doing all daily crafting quests on 9 characters instead of the 5 characters I did last year.

I got three drops of Glass Eyes today, so they are dopping.

I opened just over 200 boxes, I received 37 motifs(7 were Worm Cult) , I got 3 perfect roe and a smattering of other gold mats.

I am seeing a lot of Rheum and Dragonblood which is just getting stashed for now.

Vile Coagulent is also dropping a lot, which is great, I was getting low and I love Vampiric Furnishings. I've received some Culanda Laquer, some Shimmering Sand and as mentioned above some Glass Eyes, I would like more but still plenty of time.

I'm sorry but I do not consider in any way these boxes to be worthless, I love this event and for me personally it is still well worth farming!! 💕

SalamanNZ

I have 18 characters and I do 7 crafting daily on each of them. 126 boxes minimum a day. The quality of the drops have diminished but I am still getting lots of good stuff. I enjoy this event but it does get draining doing it everyday. But I'll take a break once it's done like previous

Elvenheart

Oh, no, this sounds awful

freespirit wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I know it’s all random, but last year I got a few Eyes of Mora style mats and I have got zero this year, despite doing all daily crafting quests on 9 characters instead of the 5 characters I did last year.

I got three drops of Glass Eyes today, so they are dopping.

I opened just over 200 boxes, I received 37 motifs(7 were Worm Cult) , I got 3 perfect roe and a smattering of other gold mats.

I am seeing a lot of Rheum and Dragonblood which is just getting stashed for now.

Vile Coagulent is also dropping a lot, which is great, I was getting low and I love Vampiric Furnishings. I've received some Culanda Laquer, some Shimmering Sand and as mentioned above some Glass Eyes, I would like more but still plenty of time.

I'm sorry but I do not consider in any way these boxes to be worthless, I love this event and for me personally it is still well worth farming!! 💕

Wow, 200 boxes, I am in awe! I do my seven crafting dailies on one character so I get one gold box and six purple ones. I do have 10 other characters that could do crafting dailies for 70 more boxes in a day, but I just don’t have it in me to do any more crafting dailies each day.

Arunei

SalamanNZ wrote: »

I have 18 characters and I do 7 crafting daily on each of them. 126 boxes minimum a day. The quality of the drops have diminished but I am still getting lots of good stuff. I enjoy this event but it does get draining doing it everyday. But I'll take a break once it's done like previous

I'm doing all seven on a full roster of 22, and this year the event is almost three weeks long instead of the normal two (normally it's twelve days I believe but this time it's nineteen). I definitely needed a break in past years when the roster limit was smaller, and I'm already feelin' the burnout, but the 154 daily boxes will be 2,926 after the event is over. I'm still getting good stuff, and we're only I think six days in?

Knowing I still have over two weeks of mats, Blueprints, and Motifs to get will give me the fortitude to keep on keepin' on lol. But I definitely won't be touching crafting for a while after the Jubilee.

Also the passive money from turning in each daily writ on all my characters has given me a couple million gold in the past, so there's that. And all the Suverys and Master Writs (I have two crafters I can get those from; I oughta level some of my other characters in Prov and Alchemy since you can level those fast so I can get more Master Writs)? By the end of any given Jubilee I usually have between 150-200 Surveys, which I can either do on one of my crafters for more max level mats, or do on untrained alts for low level ones (as prep for next year's Jubilee, as literally 20 out of my 22 characters have nothing in any crafting tree unlocked so they ALL use the base-level mats lol).

All that said, I definitely feel that people who get fewer boxes a day will feel the adjustment more, just because of how averages work. Plus RNG is super fickle, so even people like me who farm dozens and dozens of boxes every day can easily have days where ALL of our boxes are junk. But the people who only have the time or energy to get a handful are going to feel that RNG more heavily since they have fewer chances of getting good stuff.

DenverRalphy

Elvenheart wrote: »

Oh, no, this sounds awful

freespirit wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I know it’s all random, but last year I got a few Eyes of Mora style mats and I have got zero this year, despite doing all daily crafting quests on 9 characters instead of the 5 characters I did last year.

I got three drops of Glass Eyes today, so they are dopping.

I opened just over 200 boxes, I received 37 motifs(7 were Worm Cult) , I got 3 perfect roe and a smattering of other gold mats.

I am seeing a lot of Rheum and Dragonblood which is just getting stashed for now.

Vile Coagulent is also dropping a lot, which is great, I was getting low and I love Vampiric Furnishings. I've received some Culanda Laquer, some Shimmering Sand and as mentioned above some Glass Eyes, I would like more but still plenty of time.

I'm sorry but I do not consider in any way these boxes to be worthless, I love this event and for me personally it is still well worth farming!! 💕

Wow, 200 boxes, I am in awe! I do my seven crafting dailies on one character so I get one gold box and six purple ones. I do have 10 other characters that could do crafting dailies for 70 more boxes in a day, but I just don’t have it in me to do any more crafting dailies each day.

Park your alts in Skingrad, and do the writs there. Grab the writs, start with woodworking, work your way around the circle, and you end right there at the writ turn-in. Also, at the crafting stations set them to "Quest Only" and you don't even need to choose what to craft as it will fill it all in for you if you have an active writ. Makes your writs go stupid-fast.

Unless you're on PC, then I believe there's an addon to do your writs for you.

Amandakill420

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Just want to be clear here, while we know the change in the drop rate from the hotfix is frustrating, we were returning the drop rate to be inline with previous Anniversary Jubilee events. .....

I thought maybe y'all thought we deserved a little better RNG after all the bugs that haven't been fixed over the years and all the issues that come up that still don't get fixed.
You sure fix things fast when it's giving us a benefit though.

Thought maybe you'd decided we should have an event that was fun to grind boxes.
Sad that I was wrong. Guess I'll go back to watching TV instead of grinding for boxes just to get some green crafting mats and BOUND furnishings. Bound?!?

Please do keep all this feedback in mind. Your player base is tired of feeling like we're not important to you folks.

Amandakill420

Dragonnord wrote: »

People complain that the economy is destroyed by the drops of this type of events, then people complain if drops are nerfed.

People...

The difference is that the people complaining about the economy don't actually need the gold, mostly bot farmers. The people complaining about the massive nerf are the ones that matter.

tmbrinks

Reginald_leBlem wrote: »

Yeah I didn't really get anything interesting BEFORE the nerf, not really any point to farming boxes if I am just getting a bunch of green patterns my main already knows.

There are no green pattern drops in the boxes.

Blue patterns, yes.
Purple recipes, yes.

But no green.