Can something please be done about the current block bug?

Poss · February 19

Jumped into Sunspire earlier. Haven’t tanked for a while but my goodness the amount of times my block randomly dropped for no reason was painful

Feel sorry for teams currently progging trifectas because that wasn’t pleasant

Soarora · February 19

I have had no such problem, but I'm on PC.

SaffronCitrusflower · February 19

Soarora wrote: »

I have had no such problem, but I'm on PC.

I'm on PC and I can assure everyone that the block bug is still a major issue.

Yesterday some friends and I went to run a quick Bloodroot Forge hard mode. I was the tank. Roughly half the time my block didn't block. Blocking mitigated nothing. This is a dungeon I've done on hard mode at least 20 times. It's not hard if block works. If block isn't working even a good experienced tank on a good build it's a one shot death and the group wipes.

Soarora · February 19

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

I have had no such problem, but I'm on PC.

I'm on PC and I can assure everyone that the block bug is still a major issue.

Yesterday some friends and I went to run a quick Bloodroot Forge hard mode. I was the tank. Roughly half the time my block didn't block. Blocking mitigated nothing. This is a dungeon I've done on hard mode at least 20 times. It's not hard if block works. If block isn't working even a good experienced tank on a good build it's a one shot death and the group wipes.

Do you use a controller? I use a mouse and keyboard. Trying to help widdle down what the cause might be, because I really have not seen any current block bug and I tank all the time.

SaffronCitrusflower · February 19

Soarora wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

I have had no such problem, but I'm on PC.

I'm on PC and I can assure everyone that the block bug is still a major issue.

Yesterday some friends and I went to run a quick Bloodroot Forge hard mode. I was the tank. Roughly half the time my block didn't block. Blocking mitigated nothing. This is a dungeon I've done on hard mode at least 20 times. It's not hard if block works. If block isn't working even a good experienced tank on a good build it's a one shot death and the group wipes.

Do you use a controller? I use a mouse and keyboard. Trying to help widdle down what the cause might be, because I really have not seen any current block bug and I tank all the time.

I use mouse and keyboard. Why is it hard to believe there is still a block bug?

Soarora · February 19

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

I have had no such problem, but I'm on PC.

I'm on PC and I can assure everyone that the block bug is still a major issue.

Yesterday some friends and I went to run a quick Bloodroot Forge hard mode. I was the tank. Roughly half the time my block didn't block. Blocking mitigated nothing. This is a dungeon I've done on hard mode at least 20 times. It's not hard if block works. If block isn't working even a good experienced tank on a good build it's a one shot death and the group wipes.

Do you use a controller? I use a mouse and keyboard. Trying to help widdle down what the cause might be, because I really have not seen any current block bug and I tank all the time.

I use mouse and keyboard. Why is it hard to believe there is still a block bug?

I'm not in disbelief nor am I arguing, but ZOS can't fix a bug if all they know is that there is a bug when the bug isn't so rampant that you can have it happen just by testing it with no context. Since it doesn't happen to me, but it happens to both of you during normal play, then there is some variable that we can at least help widdle down to.

Edit: Next thing I'd ask is if you're holding down block or if you're just trying to block specific attacks. I have a bad habit of holding down block a lot, so that could be another reason why I'm not getting it?

SaffronCitrusflower · February 19

Soarora wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

I have had no such problem, but I'm on PC.

I'm on PC and I can assure everyone that the block bug is still a major issue.

Yesterday some friends and I went to run a quick Bloodroot Forge hard mode. I was the tank. Roughly half the time my block didn't block. Blocking mitigated nothing. This is a dungeon I've done on hard mode at least 20 times. It's not hard if block works. If block isn't working even a good experienced tank on a good build it's a one shot death and the group wipes.

Do you use a controller? I use a mouse and keyboard. Trying to help widdle down what the cause might be, because I really have not seen any current block bug and I tank all the time.

I use mouse and keyboard. Why is it hard to believe there is still a block bug?

I'm not in disbelief nor am I arguing, but ZOS can't fix a bug if all they know is that there is a bug when the bug isn't so rampant that you can have it happen just by testing it with no context. Since it doesn't happen to me, but it happens to both of you during normal play, then there is some variable that we can at least help widdle down to.

Edit: Next thing I'd ask is if you're holding down block or if you're just trying to block specific attacks. I have a bad habit of holding down block a lot, so that could be another reason why I'm not getting it?

Maybe try to run some of the more end game content where the monsters hit hard enough to one shot a prepared tank and see how it goes.

It was obvious to the rest of my group that block wasn't working correctly. We've done that run together on hard mode plenty of times with no issues. The block bug is still popping up. That's just the way it is...even if you aren't personally experiencing it.

Soarora · February 19

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

I have had no such problem, but I'm on PC.

I'm on PC and I can assure everyone that the block bug is still a major issue.

Yesterday some friends and I went to run a quick Bloodroot Forge hard mode. I was the tank. Roughly half the time my block didn't block. Blocking mitigated nothing. This is a dungeon I've done on hard mode at least 20 times. It's not hard if block works. If block isn't working even a good experienced tank on a good build it's a one shot death and the group wipes.

Do you use a controller? I use a mouse and keyboard. Trying to help widdle down what the cause might be, because I really have not seen any current block bug and I tank all the time.

I use mouse and keyboard. Why is it hard to believe there is still a block bug?

I'm not in disbelief nor am I arguing, but ZOS can't fix a bug if all they know is that there is a bug when the bug isn't so rampant that you can have it happen just by testing it with no context. Since it doesn't happen to me, but it happens to both of you during normal play, then there is some variable that we can at least help widdle down to.

Edit: Next thing I'd ask is if you're holding down block or if you're just trying to block specific attacks. I have a bad habit of holding down block a lot, so that could be another reason why I'm not getting it?

Maybe try to run some of the more end game content where the monsters hit hard enough to one shot a prepared tank and see how it goes.

It was obvious to the rest of my group that block wasn't working correctly. We've done that run together on hard mode plenty of times with no issues. The block bug is still popping up. That's just the way it is...even if you aren't personally experiencing it.

I uh… do. In the past few weeks I’ve tanked: Sunspire HM (MT lokke, MT yoln, OT nahvi), Bal Sunnar HM, Shipwrights HM, Dread Cellar HM, Lair of Maarselok HM, Moon Hunter Keep HM, Castle Thorn HM…..
The bug is just not happening to me, I’m trying to help understand why because ZOS cannot fix the bug if they don’t know what causes it. Just saying there’s a bug isn’t incredibly helpful if they can’t reproduce it easily.

So, to be entirely clear: I believe you two are experiencing a block bug, I am not experiencing the bug, I’m sharing information on how I play in hopes that it will help ZOS cross off variables as to what’s causing the bug. If the cause of the bug is known, someone should do a bug report explaining it.

virtus753 · February 19

Soarora wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

I have had no such problem, but I'm on PC.

I'm on PC and I can assure everyone that the block bug is still a major issue.

Yesterday some friends and I went to run a quick Bloodroot Forge hard mode. I was the tank. Roughly half the time my block didn't block. Blocking mitigated nothing. This is a dungeon I've done on hard mode at least 20 times. It's not hard if block works. If block isn't working even a good experienced tank on a good build it's a one shot death and the group wipes.

Do you use a controller? I use a mouse and keyboard. Trying to help widdle down what the cause might be, because I really have not seen any current block bug and I tank all the time.

I use mouse and keyboard. Why is it hard to believe there is still a block bug?

I'm not in disbelief nor am I arguing, but ZOS can't fix a bug if all they know is that there is a bug when the bug isn't so rampant that you can have it happen just by testing it with no context. Since it doesn't happen to me, but it happens to both of you during normal play, then there is some variable that we can at least help widdle down to.

Edit: Next thing I'd ask is if you're holding down block or if you're just trying to block specific attacks. I have a bad habit of holding down block a lot, so that could be another reason why I'm not getting it?

Maybe try to run some of the more end game content where the monsters hit hard enough to one shot a prepared tank and see how it goes.

It was obvious to the rest of my group that block wasn't working correctly. We've done that run together on hard mode plenty of times with no issues. The block bug is still popping up. That's just the way it is...even if you aren't personally experiencing it.

I uh… do. In the past few weeks I’ve tanked: Sunspire HM (MT lokke, MT yoln, OT nahvi), Bal Sunnar HM, Shipwrights HM, Dread Cellar HM, Lair of Maarselok HM, Moon Hunter Keep HM, Castle Thorn HM…..
The bug is just not happening to me, I’m trying to help understand why because ZOS cannot fix the bug if they don’t know what causes it. Just saying there’s a bug isn’t incredibly helpful if they can’t reproduce it easily.

There is information here on how to reproduce a block bug which I have encountered:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/650989/current-block-bug#latest

It may be the same one hitting the tanks in my HM progs.

Soarora · February 19

virtus753 wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

I have had no such problem, but I'm on PC.

I'm on PC and I can assure everyone that the block bug is still a major issue.

Yesterday some friends and I went to run a quick Bloodroot Forge hard mode. I was the tank. Roughly half the time my block didn't block. Blocking mitigated nothing. This is a dungeon I've done on hard mode at least 20 times. It's not hard if block works. If block isn't working even a good experienced tank on a good build it's a one shot death and the group wipes.

Do you use a controller? I use a mouse and keyboard. Trying to help widdle down what the cause might be, because I really have not seen any current block bug and I tank all the time.

I use mouse and keyboard. Why is it hard to believe there is still a block bug?

I'm not in disbelief nor am I arguing, but ZOS can't fix a bug if all they know is that there is a bug when the bug isn't so rampant that you can have it happen just by testing it with no context. Since it doesn't happen to me, but it happens to both of you during normal play, then there is some variable that we can at least help widdle down to.

Edit: Next thing I'd ask is if you're holding down block or if you're just trying to block specific attacks. I have a bad habit of holding down block a lot, so that could be another reason why I'm not getting it?

Maybe try to run some of the more end game content where the monsters hit hard enough to one shot a prepared tank and see how it goes.

It was obvious to the rest of my group that block wasn't working correctly. We've done that run together on hard mode plenty of times with no issues. The block bug is still popping up. That's just the way it is...even if you aren't personally experiencing it.

I uh… do. In the past few weeks I’ve tanked: Sunspire HM (MT lokke, MT yoln, OT nahvi), Bal Sunnar HM, Shipwrights HM, Dread Cellar HM, Lair of Maarselok HM, Moon Hunter Keep HM, Castle Thorn HM…..
The bug is just not happening to me, I’m trying to help understand why because ZOS cannot fix the bug if they don’t know what causes it. Just saying there’s a bug isn’t incredibly helpful if they can’t reproduce it easily.

There is information here on how to reproduce a block bug which I have encountered:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/650989/current-block-bug#latest

It may be the same one hitting the tanks in my HM progs.

That thread is what I was thinking of, thank you. I’ll have to see if I can reproduce it, I may not be experiencing it in fact because I block-cast instead of trying to block and cast at the same time (AKA I over block instead of blocking only when attacks come out). I wonder if it’s coded so that there’s a limit on inputs to prevent macros?

TumlinTheJolly · February 19

I often can't block when I pull out of a heavy attack early. I start channeling lightning heavy, see boss is about to attack me, I cancel lightning heavy channel and go to block but my character just stands there not blocking for 1-2sec and I get whacked by the boss.

Sluggy · February 19

I'm kind of wondering if this isn't what's been happening to me lately in PvP. A LOT of fights over the last week I absolutely know I was holding block and ready for specific attacks/procs and despite having held the button down for up to several seconds early and with zero stuns/fears affecting me I was suddenly hit with the full force of the oncoming attack like I'd never even pressed block. You could argue it was lag but there were some cases where other incoming attacks were being blocked just leading up to the one that wasn't. Incaps and Rush of Agony have been particularly problematic to the point where I actually went and double checked to make sure they hadn't been changed to ignore block since the last time I played! And yes, I started running combat log addons again just to make sure I wasn't getting hit with fear or an unblockable stun.

barney2525 · February 19

I use mouse/Keyboard

about 25% of the time I squeeze the R button and Nothing happens. (except my character goes flying across the screen)
been like that forever, despite mouse changing a few times.

figured that was just the way it is.

Poss · February 19

Sluggy wrote: »

I'm kind of wondering if this isn't what's been happening to me lately in PvP. […]

Can confirm it’s also happening in PvP. See a ballgroup rush in, go to block it and still get pulled

The fact blocking is such a fundamental aspect of combat in this game and this bug hasn’t been addressed yet is frightening

Rogue_Coyote · February 19

Combat bug has been around for longer and isn't fixed
Not really frightening, more on par for this course.

VvwvenomwvV · February 19

This has been an issue for years and is now a feature. It doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen. You can have full stamina, holding block and your character is just standing there...BOOM, dead. You have to release block and reapply. There are times where you have to do this multiple times before your character will actually block. I've noticed it happens more often after I bar swap. It can, however, happen at any point.

Poss · February 19

Rogue_Coyote wrote: »

Combat bug has been around for longer and isn't fixed
Not really frightening, more on par for this course.

While the combat bug is annoying and yes has been a thing for years, the block bug could potentially ruin trifectas so yes, “frightening” and not really comparable. End game tanks are leaving as a result of it

EvilGoatKing · February 19

Block was broken for months and the devs knew and were fine leaving it that way, no one cares

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/623280/fair-compensation-for-loss-of-playtime-due-to-game-breaking-bug/

Renato90085 · February 20

for me,never happen in pve
but pvp often happen

MincMincMinc · February 20

Block just hasnt been the same since they messed with it during the weapon swap changes. They quite literally tried to fix something that wasn't broken.

Poss · February 20

MincMincMinc wrote: »

Block just hasnt been the same since they messed with it during the weapon swap changes. They quite literally tried to fix something that wasn't broken.

For me, it’s only something that’s started happening recently like within the last 2 months. Press block and your character just stands there like a plum and you gotta keep releasing and reapplying the button