IA arc46 Any Guesses?

benzenexz · December 15

After finishing my duo run this week, I checked the leaderboard:

1. xxx 46.?.?
2. xxx 46.?.?
...

Congratulations on the pair, BUT

Anyone might have any idea on how that could be possible?
or
Any imaginations on what might be in arc46?

benzenexz · December 15

BTW they are 2 Dragonknights, so I immediately thought out the endless corrosive armor ult, but that doesn't sounds really feasible.
And I suppose the light attack of any marauder would one shot you on those arcs even if you block with 33k defences and all the buffs, so probably dodging builds?

fizl101 · December 15

This one I'm guessing

benzenexz · December 15

fizl101 wrote: »

This one I'm guessing

thx for the screen shot

sarahthes · December 15

benzenexz wrote: »

BTW they are 2 Dragonknights, so I immediately thought out the endless corrosive armor ult, but that doesn't sounds really feasible.
And I suppose the light attack of any marauder would one shot you on those arcs even if you block with 33k defences and all the buffs, so probably dodging builds?

They run a perma magma build typically. It's very easy to keep up magma 100% of the time in IA once you have the right visions.

Soarora · December 15

Here's a video of arc 33 and 34:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55ss6MobvZA&ab_channel=Hyperioxes

benzenexz · December 15

sarahthes wrote: »

benzenexz wrote: »

BTW they are 2 Dragonknights, so I immediately thought out the endless corrosive armor ult, but that doesn't sounds really feasible.
And I suppose the light attack of any marauder would one shot you on those arcs even if you block with 33k defences and all the buffs, so probably dodging builds?

They run a perma magma build typically. It's very easy to keep up magma 100% of the time in IA once you have the right visions.

you mean like 33 Endless potential?

SgtWinnie · December 15

If on EU I believe there is a husband /wife couple that always score extremely high. Also Hyperioxes is always in the top spot because let's face it....he's a beast lol.
I've watched his YT and the time it takes to complete a round and the inbound and outbound damage is extreme.
How is it possible? These folks are just good at what they do.
On NA there are some folks to but I'm sure not quite as high.

sarahthes · December 15

benzenexz wrote: »

sarahthes wrote: »

benzenexz wrote: »

BTW they are 2 Dragonknights, so I immediately thought out the endless corrosive armor ult, but that doesn't sounds really feasible.
And I suppose the light attack of any marauder would one shot you on those arcs even if you block with 33k defences and all the buffs, so probably dodging builds?

They run a perma magma build typically. It's very easy to keep up magma 100% of the time in IA once you have the right visions.

you mean like 33 Endless potential?

I mean with potentates and drakes rush and elfbane and major/minor heroism (scribing) you can have perms magma with only 1-2 boundless potential. I've been able to perma magma from arc 3 before.

benzenexz · December 15

sarahthes wrote: »

I mean with potentates and drakes rush and elfbane and major/minor heroism (scribing) you can have perms magma with only 1-2 boundless potential. I've been able to perma magma from arc 3 before.

Thx for the spoiler.
Now that thinking of that the second place of duo is arc15 on pc NA, probably time is more the real factor that people stopped, I guess.

Djennku · December 16

Cheesy af strategy of reduce enemy weapon damage to zero, ulti build to have magma shell on spam, nothing can kill you and you just kill things.

Also, just 7 verses? Something is wrong there. Either the screenshot is photoshopped, or they found an old perma WW exploit. My money is on it's fake.

Djennku · December 16

Also, visions: 196 divided by 5 is 39.2. Aside from just 7 verses, there's more wrng in that screenshot, including the clear MS Paint transfer and whatever they tried cutting out on the top.

fizl101 · December 16

Djennku wrote: »

Also, visions: 196 divided by 5 is 39.2. Aside from just 7 verses, there's more wrng in that screenshot, including the clear MS Paint transfer and whatever they tried cutting out on the top.

That was just me taking a screenshot from discord and cutting out the name of the person who posted it as it was from ESO U community achievements channel

Djennku · December 16

fizl101 wrote: »

Djennku wrote: »

Also, visions: 196 divided by 5 is 39.2. Aside from just 7 verses, there's more wrng in that screenshot, including the clear MS Paint transfer and whatever they tried cutting out on the top.

That was just me taking a screenshot from discord and cutting out the name of the person who posted it as it was from ESO U community achievements channel

Gotcha. Numbers are still waaay off.

lardvader · December 16

Tariq9898 · December 16

Im more curious on how long that took lmao

fizl101 · December 16

74 hours 49 minutes from the screenshot!

Tariq9898 · December 16

fizl101 wrote: »

74 hours 49 minutes from the screenshot!

Oh fuuuuu I didn't even see that!! 😅😅

sarahthes · December 16

Djennku wrote: »

fizl101 wrote: »

Djennku wrote: »

Also, visions: 196 divided by 5 is 39.2. Aside from just 7 verses, there's more wrng in that screenshot, including the clear MS Paint transfer and whatever they tried cutting out on the top.

That was just me taking a screenshot from discord and cutting out the name of the person who posted it as it was from ESO U community achievements channel

Gotcha. Numbers are still waaay off.

And yet the OP states that they first saw this on the in game leaderboards, not discord. The discord pic came from a different person.

IsharaMeradin · December 16

It has been a while, and I could be remembering wrong. In duo, as long as one takes a vision or verse the portal should be available. If the options that pop up are not beneficial to one of the player's builds, they could choose to skip it. That could account for some of the discrepancies.

Aurielle · December 16

fizl101 wrote: »

74 hours 49 minutes from the screenshot!

For their sake, I hope they used a mouse jiggler and took breaks to sleep and get up / walk around. If not, that is an unhealthy amount of time to spend playing a video game in a single sitting. Like, stroke-levels of unhealthy.

SkaiFaith · December 16

Everyone wondering about something wrong with numbers and here I am amazed by the possibility of playing 75 hours straight without a disconnect...
I don't know if I could reach the 7.5 hours without getting booted XD

ssewallb14_ESO · December 16

You can reach Arc whatever-you-want with permashell and weakening. Just need to dodge Realmshapers' vector AOE and not die to mechanics.

At that level it's just a how long can you not pass out from insomnia and boredom contest.

fizl101 · December 16

Aurielle wrote: »

fizl101 wrote: »

74 hours 49 minutes from the screenshot!

For their sake, I hope they used a mouse jiggler and took breaks to sleep and get up / walk around. If not, that is an unhealthy amount of time to spend playing a video game in a single sitting. Like, stroke-levels of unhealthy.

I hope so too! I play mainly console (very rarely on PC) but I assume there is something more sophisticated than an elastic band available

Personofsecrets · December 16

Although I don't like the play style that makes such runs possible, such as having to leave the computer on and connected to the internet for hours, it's a big achievement for a pair to go through all of the trouble, hang in there, and play exceptionally well in order to get so far.

Some important points regarding the archive and the Dragonknight build that is able to get there are as follows. It's possible that these things were put into IA to make runs end, but these clever players have found a way.

There is the Adaptive Conqueror Vision that increases the cost of ultimate. Just one of these Visions can wipe out the usefulness of 4 stacks of Boundless Potential! Because the players are using builds that rely on being under the effect of Magma Shell, I'd like to know how the dealt with Adaptive Conqueror.

There are certain bosses that have phases which make generating ultimate difficult. Lady Belain and at least one of the dragons are examples. Did our friends doing the run have the luck to not encounter these bosses? Did they figure out ways to bypass the unique problem that the bosses present? When one has a bunch of relevant visions, it makes me wonder what kind of builds are possible. How close can one get to 100% damage mitigation in the case that Magma isn't available?

Lastly, I believe that the Meteor cast by the Mystic enemies presents some unique challenges. Although I can imagine how two players will deal with a meteor effectively, it's also possible and quite likely to get cases of two Mystics spawning and placing their meteors at the same time. I wonder what kind of tricks to the trade there are for these types of things. Or maybe they aren't as much of an issue as I think they are.

What's cool about duo is that cunning players can build in ways that compliment their teammate. I'm sure that was done here to an impressive degree. Big congratulations to the team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mLY8nZzEJs

Wow, look how easy they make Tho'at look!

Personofsecrets · December 16

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Everyone wondering about something wrong with numbers and here I am amazed by the possibility of playing 75 hours straight without a disconnect...
I don't know if I could reach the 7.5 hours without getting booted XD

This is why I'm surprised that Endless Archive actually exists the way that it currently does. It's realistic that someone could die by taking up the gauntlet too seriously.

fizl101 · December 16

Just watched - I hate that marauder on early arcs let alone arc 45!

Aurielle · December 16

Personofsecrets wrote: »

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Everyone wondering about something wrong with numbers and here I am amazed by the possibility of playing 75 hours straight without a disconnect...
I don't know if I could reach the 7.5 hours without getting booted XD

This is why I'm surprised that Endless Archive actually exists the way that it currently does. It's realistic that someone could die by taking up the gauntlet too seriously.

Agreed. One of my biggest problems with IA and the fact that save states are not permitted. At best, it encourages excessive power consumption (i.e. leaving a power-hungry PC/console on for hours while taking a break to sleep and stretch), at worst, it encourages extremely unhealthy long gaming sessions that put players at significant risk. Gamers can and have died from strokes or developed permanent disabilities secondary to excessively long game sessions without a break.

sarahthes · December 16

I would assume that they took turns taking breaks to ensure that they didn't lose the instance.

Reginald_leBlem · December 16

AFAIK there's nothing stopping one person from logging off, another person joining, play for a while, then 1 person logs off, another joining, etc.

Would account for lower visions but I would not want to be the person on arc 40 with 0 visions

Personofsecrets · December 16

Reginald_leBlem wrote: »

AFAIK there's nothing stopping one person from logging off, another person joining, play for a while, then 1 person logs off, another joining, etc.

Would account for lower visions but I would not want to be the person on arc 40 with 0 visions

If that is true, then maybe an alt account could be used to pickup bad visions, open up the portal to the next round, and then immediately leave. Wouldn't something like this mess with or make impossible the leaderboard placement?