What is the end goal in this game for you? What is it for everybody? (Deep discussion)

Zombocalypse · October 16

This game has a massive content with lots to do, and we also can have up to eight characters for our account. With so much to do and accomplish, I do wonder what most of you consider the end goal. Is it making friends? Is it beating the hardest content? Is it making money (in game currency)? Is it becoming a master crafter? Master PvP player? Becoming the best guild master in the game? Is it about learning all of Elder Scrolls lore? What about collecting all the pets, mounts, companions?

Elder Scrolls games, including this MMO of theirs, are just built different. It's my favorite video game franchise. I think my end goal in this game is to simply feel sucked in in a new world and then forget about my problems in life for hours at a time. It's a great outlet for me. It's the escapism that I go for.

What about you?

KromedeTheCorrupt · October 16

Not getting banned on the forums is this the real end game boss

Pelanora · October 16

I don't know anymore!!!!

Where's it all going what's happening is it just going to be 583 Second Era with cults and new outfits and events and half destroyed towns for ever.... and 330 ping....

silky_soft · October 16

The real endgame for me is them admitting akamai was a bad idea and they no longer use them.

Then maybe my skills will go off and I won't want to move next door to the severs to just have a enjoyable experience.

AlnilamE · October 16

Having fun.

Destai · October 16

I’m not sure at this point.

My main character has done every quest, I’ve done many trials, every dungeon. I went through a trader phase, and couldn’t really keep up with the sales quotas. I would even say that fashion wise, I think I peaked right after Galen.

The content I enjoy, I have largely exhausted. There’s a few arenas and IA that I could do, but my warden build was invalidated by the recent changes. Necrom didn’t resonate with me, even though it wasn’t bad content. Gold Road was one of my least favorite releases. I can’t even say I feel negative about it, more like indifferent.

So, I am definitely in a lull and not seeing the motivation to play as regularly or deeply. I guess we’ll see what next year’s content and anniversary events look like. If it’s anything like this year’s, I don’t see myself diving back in. Maybe the game is just going to be filler for me, where I do dailies, endeavors, and golden pursuits.

DreamyLu · October 16

For me, ESO is a holiday place to take a rest aside of my main. I use the game to chill solo, with no objectives therefore zero pressure. My only rules: no grinding and if upset, stop. This ensures full freedom and unlimited fun.

Of course, the counter part is that I rarely complete any achievements and that I'm late at everything compared to "regular" players. However, I don't care at all, so it's no worries for me and very comfortable.

All in all, my only goal is to keep it like that as long as possible.

SteveCampsOut · October 16

End game for me is keeping me out of bars and away from drug addicts. Keeps me out of trouble and doesn't overly complicate my life. 90% of my game time is spent solo other than a few undaunted or pvp events where a group helps.

katanagirl1 · October 16

I like to lose myself in the world of Tamriel too.

I do some PvP, some housing, and I also try to collect things and mark off achievements as well.

Syldras · October 16

There is no goal. It's a pastime. Not even escapism (I find my life to be quite fine), just enjoying interesting stories and lore.

TheMajority · October 16

collecting as many bananas as possible

I'm up to 56k now

darvaria · October 16

Not ONE of my friends still play and I've had some great playing friends over the years. So I do everything solo. End game is doing endeavors, collecting daily rewards and about 30 minutes (usually less) at Cyrodiil. Prime time has a que and late night, the population is so unbalanced I usually get 15-20 kills and leave. My end game is NOT dying and getting kills.

Zombocalypse · October 16

Question...

The in game currency... What is it called? Gold? Septims? Well, whatever they call it, what exactly is anything of real value that you can buy with it? It doesn't matter if it's buying from a player or some NPC. Just... Anything. What is it that you won't get easily without paying for it in the in game currency?

shadyjane62 · October 16

Getting out of "stuck in combat".

fizzylu · October 16

With a hollow endgame progression system like champion points and barely any earnable rewards? Nothing. I just login, admire my character and house, do some miscellaneous tasks, and logout usually. I used to be the type that liked to do all the quests and etc, but now I don't even make that a goal because then I'd run out of content within a couple weeks of a chapters release and have nothing to do in ESO for the rest of the year.

Syldras · October 16

Zombocalypse wrote: »

Question...
The in game currency... What is it called? Gold? Septims? Well, whatever they call it, what exactly is anything of real value that you can buy with it? It doesn't matter if it's buying from a player or some NPC. Just... Anything. What is it that you won't get easily without paying for it in the in game currency?

Really depends on your playstyle and what you're interested in. I spend most gold on housing materials and furniture plans which is obviously of no interest for people who don't do housing. I also buy specific crafting style pages every now and then, which is also only of interest if someone either wants to use that style for their own character, or maybe does a lot of crafting including master craftings writs.

Zombocalypse · October 16

Syldras wrote: »

Zombocalypse wrote: »

Question...
The in game currency... What is it called? Gold? Septims? Well, whatever they call it, what exactly is anything of real value that you can buy with it? It doesn't matter if it's buying from a player or some NPC. Just... Anything. What is it that you won't get easily without paying for it in the in game currency?

Really depends on your playstyle and what you're interested in. I spend most gold on housing materials and furniture plans which is obviously of no interest for people who don't do housing. I also buy specific crafting style pages every now and then, which is also only of interest if someone either wants to use that style for their own character, or maybe does a lot of crafting including master craftings writs.

Thanks. Any others? What do you think other players want?

SkaiFaith · October 16

I wouldn't say "immersion" because I'm not really big into RPing and when I play, to me, it's me playing a game in my room, I'm not a character going adventuring... BUT the reason for me to play is distracting myself from all the ugly poo we see everywhere around us, and ESO has been kinda good at that in past years; didn't work as well in recent times for me.

So the end goal is mere distraction "...as a past time activity - the toxicity of our city..."

SeaGtGruff · October 16

Zombocalypse wrote: »

Elder Scrolls games, including this MMO of theirs, are just built different. It's my favorite video game franchise. I think my end goal in this game is to simply feel sucked in in a new world and then forget about my problems in life for hours at a time. It's a great outlet for me. It's the escapism that I go for.

^^^ Pretty much this for me, too.

I don't play games to try to be the most awesome gamer, or to keep pushing myself to beat whatever my previous high score was (or someone else's high score). I play games to have fun.

The genre of video game that I happen to enjoy the most is CRPGs, and I used to buy just about every adventure game or RPG that came out for whatever platforms I had-- except I quickly discovered that many of them were either too difficult for me to get into, or perhaps were just poorly designed in some way, so that sort of cured me of wanting to buy everything that came out just because it was an adventure game or RPG.

I remember playing Wizardry 8 right before I ever heard of The Elder Scrolls, and I thought it was awesome as far as its 3D graphics. But then I read about The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and decided to give it a try. I ended up putting Wizardry 8 on a shelf and never finishing it.

After I completed Oblivion, I bought the Game of the Year edition of Morrowind because I wanted more Elder Scrolls. At first I was turned off by its graphics and the differences in gameplay from Oblivion (because things like picking locks and talking to the NPCs seemed like rolling dice rather than being based on actual skill at playing the game), but it didn't take long for me to fall in love with it.

And then, of course, came Skyrim, which was more graphically realistic than Oblivion, although I thought the colors were too drab and gray compared to Oblivion's brighter and more colorful hues. But I loved it on its own terms.

I tried playing Arena when I read that it was free to download, but after struggling with the controls for perhaps 15 minutes, I gave up on it and didn't touch it again for several years.

I saw an internet advertisement for ESO: Morrowind shortly after its release, and it so happened that I'd recently been playing Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim again, and had become interested in exploring other parts of Tamriel. I gave Arena another try and managed to complete it (with a lot of help from the maps at the UESP wiki), and was interested in ESO but had always been against the idea of online games. However, when I read that ESO didn't require a monthly subscription, I bought it-- and was instantly hooked.

At first I threw myself into trying to complete all of the quests and do all of the content, although I quickly discovered that the group content was beyond me-- and I was reluctant to join groups of other players because I was worried that I wouldn't be able to perform to their satisfaction, so I mostly stuck with questing and running delves and public dungeons.

Then one day I just sort of switched gears and settled into a more leisurely daily routine. My changed attitude carried over to the single-player games, and I found that it was more enjoyable to take my time rather than rushing to get through everything.

Now I enjoy getting sucked into gameworlds and learning how to play games at a relaxed pace, rather than getting stressed out and frustrated if a game seems difficult to learn. I've been going back and playing some of the other RPGs I'd tried years ago but couldn't seem to get into, and have been able to enjoy many of them a lot more than when I first tried playing them.

I consider myself to be casually serious and seriously casual, because I do enjoy trying to get better at a game so I can make progress in it, but I'm more interested in having fun than in pushing myself hard until I get frustrated and stressed out. On the one hand, I'd love to be able to collect all of the gear sets, all of the antiquities, and complete all of the available content-- but I'm not concerned about how long it takes, and I'm not particularly interested in grinding hour after hour, day after day, week after week, to try to collect some thingy, and end up getting all rage-quitty because it just won't drop for me.

Zombocalypse · October 16

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Zombocalypse wrote: »

Elder Scrolls games, including this MMO of theirs, are just built different. It's my favorite video game franchise. I think my end goal in this game is to simply feel sucked in in a new world and then forget about my problems in life for hours at a time. It's a great outlet for me. It's the escapism that I go for.

^^^ Pretty much this for me, too.

I don't play games to try to be the most awesome gamer, or to keep pushing myself to beat whatever my previous high score was (or someone else's high score). I play games to have fun.

The genre of video game that I happen to enjoy the most is CRPGs, and I used to buy just about every adventure game or RPG that came out for whatever platforms I had-- except I quickly discovered that many of them were either too difficult for me to get into, or perhaps were just poorly designed in some way, so that sort of cured me of wanting to buy everything that came out just because it was an adventure game or RPG.

I remember playing Wizardry 8 right before I ever heard of The Elder Scrolls, and I thought it was awesome as far as its 3D graphics. But then I read about The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and decided to give it a try. I ended up putting Wizardry 8 on a shelf and never finishing it.

After I completed Oblivion, I bought the Game of the Year edition of Morrowind because I wanted more Elder Scrolls. At first I was turned off by its graphics and the differences in gameplay from Oblivion (because things like picking locks and talking to the NPCs seemed like rolling dice rather than being based on actual skill at playing the game), but it didn't take long for me to fall in love with it.

And then, of course, came Skyrim, which was more graphically realistic than Oblivion, although I thought the colors were too drab and gray compared to Oblivion's brighter and more colorful hues. But I loved it on its own terms.

I tried playing Arena when I read that it was free to download, but after struggling with the controls for perhaps 15 minutes, I gave up on it and didn't touch it again for several years.

I saw an internet advertisement for ESO: Morrowind shortly after its release, and it so happened that I'd recently been playing Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim again, and had become interested in exploring other parts of Tamriel. I gave Arena another try and managed to complete it (with a lot of help from the maps at the UESP wiki), and was interested in ESO but had always been against the idea of online games. However, when I read that ESO didn't require a monthly subscription, I bought it-- and was instantly hooked.

At first I threw myself into trying to complete all of the quests and do all of the content, although I quickly discovered that the group content was beyond me-- and I was reluctant to join groups of other players because I was worried that I wouldn't be able to perform to their satisfaction, so I mostly stuck with questing and running delves and public dungeons.

Then one day I just sort of switched gears and settled into a more leisurely daily routine. My changed attitude carried over to the single-player games, and I found that it was more enjoyable to take my time rather than rushing to get through everything.

Now I enjoy getting sucked into gameworlds and learning how to play games at a relaxed pace, rather than getting stressed out and frustrated if a game seems difficult to learn. I've been going back and playing some of the other RPGs I'd tried years ago but couldn't seem to get into, and have been able to enjoy many of them a lot more than when I first tried playing them.

I consider myself to be casually serious and seriously casual, because I do enjoy trying to get better at a game so I can make progress in it, but I'm more interested in having fun than in pushing myself hard until I get frustrated and stressed out. On the one hand, I'd love to be able to collect all of the gear sets, all of the antiquities, and complete all of the available content-- but I'm not concerned about how long it takes, and I'm not particularly interested in grinding hour after hour, day after day, week after week, to try to collect some thingy, and end up getting all rage-quitty because it just won't drop for me.

Thank you for sharing! It was a pleasure reading that. I mean it.

Tandor · October 16

DreamyLu wrote: »

For me, ESO is a holiday place to take a rest aside of my main. I use the game to chill solo, with no objectives therefore zero pressure. My only rules: no grinding and if upset, stop. This ensures full freedom and unlimited fun.

Of course, the counter part is that I rarely complete any achievements and that I'm late at everything compared to "regular" players. However, I don't care at all, so it's no worries for me and very comfortable.

All in all, my only goal is to keep it like that as long as possible.

This sums it up pretty well for me, with the one qualification that I don't have a main, I run multiple characters as equal individuals.

A shorter version of my goal in any game might simply be "to enjoy what I'm doing every time I log in".

Thoriorz · October 16

Hi, I'm mostly a solo player (with a few exceptions) and have been playing ESO for about half a year (+-).
My "end game" is completing the Antiquities Codex (3/3 on everything is my goal).
Then xp gring and completing each zone (quests, objects etc.).
Regarding pve, occasionally I'll go some trial with guild or go some GD via group finder when there is a possible Lead drop but other than that I'm not attracted to these group activities and don't do them.
As for pvp, I'm a complete "anti pvp" player, I only do necessary pvp for Leads (and I have bad gameplay experiences at pvp, but I take it as a necessary evil when I want a Lead), otherwise I don't engage them in pvp at all.

Syldras · October 16

Zombocalypse wrote: »

Thanks. Any others? What do you think other players want?

I can tell you what from the things I put in the guild store sells well: Crafting material of all kinds, especially golden quality ones and some rarer and more expensive style material. Purple quality companion gear. Some purple quality set armour. Some public dungeon collectible parts.

vsrs_au · October 16

I reached my ESO end game early this year. Since then, I've played other games (for various reasons I can't mention here, because... well, you know).

Sarannah · October 16

Personally I am playing for fun and relaxation. I don't want to have the latest greatest meta build or compete with other players while smashing buttons repeatedly. And I just do what is fun in that moment. Which is mostly IA and completng overland zones. Sometimes tanking a (veteran) dungeon here and there. And ofcourse doing events and stuff like that. Kinda already done with outfitting all twenty of my characters, but if I could still, I would outfit more characters. Also love housing and doing master writs to fill my mastercraft stations for multiple houses(two entirely done so far).
None of these things are really endgame, but they are fun for me!

For this reason it is also that it annoys me when ZOS nerfs abilities/sets/skills/etc. I am not using the latest greatest meta build nor do I care about PvP, leave my builds alone! And it also annoys me when the game becomes too grindy(scripts) or too dictating with daily gameplay. There is plenty on my to-do list still, the game doesn't have to place daily tasks upon me.

Luckily the good heavily outweights the bad for me. ESO is just a fun, great, and awesome game. Which hopefully keeps growing!

PS: The game also has a mostly great and helpful community. Both in-game and on the forums!

Sheridan · October 16

MMORPG is endless by definition. There is no end goal. I just live in this world doing everything I can.

Zombocalypse · October 16

Syldras wrote: »

Zombocalypse wrote: »

Thanks. Any others? What do you think other players want?

I can tell you what from the things I put in the guild store sells well: Crafting material of all kinds, especially golden quality ones and some rarer and more expensive style material. Purple quality companion gear. Some purple quality set armour. Some public dungeon collectible parts.

Thank you.

I think that my main schtick in this game will be that of a collector. I believe that will require some gold (or whatever the in game currency is called).

A few questions… For crafting materials, how exactly do I obtain them? Such as the “golden quality ones” as you said. And how do I obtain those “public dungeon collectible parts”? And what about the purple gear and armor you mentioned?

I really appreciate it.

Supreme_Atromancer · October 16

Zombocalypse wrote: »

Elder Scrolls games, including this MMO of theirs, are just built different. It's my favorite video game franchise. I think my end goal in this game is to simply feel sucked in in a new world and then forget about my problems in life for hours at a time. It's a great outlet for me. It's the escapism that I go for.

What about you?

I used to play reasonably hardcore PvP and PvE, and there was no content I couldn't complete at that time. It was fine, and I had fun. At the point where I should have changed my Breton magsorc to a dual-wielding Khajiit for a patch or two or be a burden on my prog-mates, I decided I really didn't care enough, and I haven't returned yet.

So my end-game is just being in Tamriel, really. I love the geography and exploring the world, so I'm still pretty excited to see some of Tamriel's fascinating places, how the world and zones all fit together, that sort of thing.

I'm really waiting for my perfect home for my Breton sorcerer. I've collected all the furnishings I'd need to deck it out, now just waiting for the opportunity. That's probably the biggest thing I could hope for in the game.

Other than that, just riding around, collecting mats, working on dailies for motifs and furnishing plans, helping my partner with their goals, sometimes some dungeons, taking advantage of events. I know some people would balk at the idea, but the newer zones are so beautiful that I actually pick up daily quests, and ride across the world rather than use wayshrines, sometimes even riding through the gates to nearby zones to do treasure maps, convenient endeavours, antiquities or dungeons. Its not efficient, of course, but grinding through as fast as possible seems like burnout territory, and there's literally no reason to hurry it all through anyway.

I could just move on to another game until the next chapter drops so I can continue my Breton's story, but I still log in most days, and I consider myself a pretty big fan of ESO. I guess I'm a pretty hardcore casual.

Pelanora · October 16

Zombocalypse wrote: »

Syldras wrote: »

Zombocalypse wrote: »

Thanks. Any others? What do you think other players want?

I can tell you what from the things I put in the guild store sells well: Crafting material of all kinds, especially golden quality ones and some rarer and more expensive style material. Purple quality companion gear. Some purple quality set armour. Some public dungeon collectible parts.

Thank you.

I think that my main schtick in this game will be that of a collector. I believe that will require some gold (or whatever the in game currency is called).

A few questions… For crafting materials, how exactly do I obtain them? Such as the “golden quality ones” as you said. And how do I obtain those “public dungeon collectible parts”? And what about the purple gear and armor you mentioned?

I really appreciate it.

You won't have one main schtick. The game is huge and unless you play like an all- the- time pyscho, it will take a couple of years to do everything. What you do will change and what you'll like will change.

You can get what you need from just playing and from buying it from traders and join a guild, people will help you out too.

Syldras · October 16

Zombocalypse wrote: »

I think that my main schtick in this game will be that of a collector. I believe that will require some gold (or whatever the in game currency is called).

It depends on what you like to collect. But yes, it probably takes a lot of time and gold. And to get gold, it's very practical to get into trading.

Zombocalypse wrote: »

For crafting materials, how exactly do I obtain them? Such as the “golden quality ones” as you said.

Basic crafting materials are collected by harvesting plants, wood, ore, etc. You take these raw materials to a crafting station and refine them, then sometimes materials of higher quality (purple or golden) will also appear, usually if you refine a bigger stack of raw materials (100+ pieces) at once.

Style material is obtainable be deconstructing armour pieces of that style (which you can find in different zones), which is also done at the crafting stations. There's actually a short tutorial for crafting in game, the two npcs you should talk to for that are Danel Telleno and Millenith. They are usually somewhere in the main city of a region.

Zombocalypse wrote: »

And how do I obtain those “public dungeon collectible parts”? And what about the purple gear and armor you mentioned?

Some enemies in public dungeons drop collectible pieces, and if you have a certain amount of them (how many is in the item description) and combine them in your inventory, you get the collectible (which can be different things, but usually things like a costume or a pet). It's completely random, though, which means most enemies will not drop them. You just have to run around killing enemies there and sometimes you get such a item. They can also be bought and sold through guild traders.

Purple gear also randomly drops sometimes from enemies, world events and treasure chests.

Roztlin45 · October 16

While driving on the freeway, you can fight to go fast in the left lane. Or you can stay in the right lane at a slower pace and cruise. The tradeoff is stress (left lane) versus relaxation (Chill in right lane).
ESO for me is much the same. I don't strive to be competitive, the greatest or min/max/meta bunk.
IN PVE, just slap on anything that seems fun. Explore the different effects some sets dole out. Run around random maps overland , stop at any delve or public dungeon you feel like. Q for Random Normal. Laugh at fake tank with 16K health..sry lol.
Sometime just pretend it is really YOU, in the story and make up your own story, adventure or quest. I have just picked a random city and became "PaPa-loc" the cat burglar, part time assassin. Ok-ok the last part was role play. But with three brain cells you too can make it happen.
PVP : same just wear what ever seems fun and see what happens. If you die , so what, respawn and change gear(if your not stuck in combat for ever).

I make my own happiness, after all it is just a state of mind.