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Now Vampire Stage 3 does nothing?

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Did someone at ZOS forget that by making undeath active at all times that Vampires would no longer have a Stage 3 passive, what is the point of being stage 3 now?

That is rather inconsistent, it would be nice if Stage 3 did something.
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    Good riddance, vampire was a meme and people only used it to abuse undeath in pvp, now it can be the roleplay spec it was designed to be
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    Good riddance, vampire was a meme and people only used it to abuse undeath in pvp, now it can be the roleplay spec it was designed to be

    About time ZOS released a survival system to the game that only effects Non-Vampires, if Vampires have to drink blood why don't mortals need to drink water? that would be a much needed buff for Vampires don't you think, would only seem fair.
    Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on July 8, 2024 9:54PM
  • Arcanasx
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    Good riddance, vampire was a meme and people only used it to abuse undeath in pvp, now it can be the roleplay spec it was designed to be

    About time ZOS released a survival system to the game that only effects Non-Vampires, if Vampires have to drink blood why don't mortals need to drink water? that would be a much needed buff for Vampires don't you think, would only seem fair.

    Don't forget to make vampires burn in the sun as well, that would only seem fair.
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    Arcanasx wrote: »
    Good riddance, vampire was a meme and people only used it to abuse undeath in pvp, now it can be the roleplay spec it was designed to be

    About time ZOS released a survival system to the game that only effects Non-Vampires, if Vampires have to drink blood why don't mortals need to drink water? that would be a much needed buff for Vampires don't you think, would only seem fair.

    Don't forget to make vampires burn in the sun as well, that would only seem fair.

    Bring back Oblivion vampires, where I once made the mistake of waiting outside after getting kicked out of a house during the day.

    Wait. Sizzle. Dead.

    It was glorious.
    Leader of Lycan Syndicate, PC NA's tri-faction werewolf guild.~~~Played since the beta, got the monkey.~~~"The blood of the pack is now yours. They are your only family, your only allegiance!"
  • ClowdyAllDay
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    Arcanasx wrote: »
    Good riddance, vampire was a meme and people only used it to abuse undeath in pvp, now it can be the roleplay spec it was designed to be

    About time ZOS released a survival system to the game that only effects Non-Vampires, if Vampires have to drink blood why don't mortals need to drink water? that would be a much needed buff for Vampires don't you think, would only seem fair.

    Don't forget to make vampires burn in the sun as well, that would only seem fair.

    Have you been outside? We all burning in the sun
  • FoJul
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    Good riddance, vampire was a meme and people only used it to abuse undeath in pvp, now it can be the roleplay spec it was designed to be

    Free 10% dmg mitagation still tho.
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    Arcanasx wrote: »
    Good riddance, vampire was a meme and people only used it to abuse undeath in pvp, now it can be the roleplay spec it was designed to be

    About time ZOS released a survival system to the game that only effects Non-Vampires, if Vampires have to drink blood why don't mortals need to drink water? that would be a much needed buff for Vampires don't you think, would only seem fair.

    Don't forget to make vampires burn in the sun as well, that would only seem fair.

    Except our clan is specifically not weak to sunlight.
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    FoJul wrote: »
    Good riddance, vampire was a meme and people only used it to abuse undeath in pvp, now it can be the roleplay spec it was designed to be

    Free 10% dmg mitagation still tho.

    Technically still need Stage 1 so not free :smile:

    -10% Health Recovery
    +5% Flame Damage Taken
    +3% Regular Ability Cost

    Edited by SkaraMinoc on July 8, 2024 10:30PM
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    Feels like a buff to non hp or shield stackers really. Now I don't need to go stage 3. I get hp regen, less flame damage, less cost all at stage 2.

    Eviscerate still does magic damage and not bleed for some insane reason. Let alone the rest of the blood suckers skills.
    Here $15, goat mount please. Not gambling or paying 45 : lol :
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    Khajiit has the best damage passive in the game, lol 12%. Insane.
  • Arcanasx
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    @Panderbander While also gloriously falling onto your knees with arms leaning back and head held high.
    Arcanasx wrote: »
    Good riddance, vampire was a meme and people only used it to abuse undeath in pvp, now it can be the roleplay spec it was designed to be

    About time ZOS released a survival system to the game that only effects Non-Vampires, if Vampires have to drink blood why don't mortals need to drink water? that would be a much needed buff for Vampires don't you think, would only seem fair.

    Don't forget to make vampires burn in the sun as well, that would only seem fair.

    Except our clan is specifically not weak to sunlight.

    Surely you realize that decision was specifically made for player convenience, just like they also decided to change the vampire blood drinking mechanic from lowering vampirism, to increasing it instead, which also went against the established lore at the time.

    I just found it somewhat funny how you used the vampire blood drinking mechanic as an argument for implementing an inconvenience mechanic for non-vamps, as a reaction to a well deserved nerf that was long overdue.

    Edited by Arcanasx on July 8, 2024 10:51PM
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    Arcanasx wrote: »
    @Panderbander While also gloriously falling onto your knees with arms leaning back and head held high.
    Arcanasx wrote: »
    Good riddance, vampire was a meme and people only used it to abuse undeath in pvp, now it can be the roleplay spec it was designed to be

    About time ZOS released a survival system to the game that only effects Non-Vampires, if Vampires have to drink blood why don't mortals need to drink water? that would be a much needed buff for Vampires don't you think, would only seem fair.

    Don't forget to make vampires burn in the sun as well, that would only seem fair.

    Except our clan is specifically not weak to sunlight.

    Surely you realize that decision was specifically made for player convenience, just like they also decided to change the vampire blood drinking mechanic from lowering vampirism, to increasing it instead, which also went against the established lore at the time.

    I just found it somewhat funny how you used the vampire blood drinking mechanic as an argument for implementing an inconvenience mechanic for non-vamps, as a reaction to a well deserved nerf that was long overdue.

    We are still Vampires of the original and strongest bloodline, why do you assume they would be weak to sunlight like lesser clans?
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    Arcanasx wrote: »
    @Panderbander While also gloriously falling onto your knees with arms leaning back and head held high.
    Arcanasx wrote: »
    Good riddance, vampire was a meme and people only used it to abuse undeath in pvp, now it can be the roleplay spec it was designed to be

    About time ZOS released a survival system to the game that only effects Non-Vampires, if Vampires have to drink blood why don't mortals need to drink water? that would be a much needed buff for Vampires don't you think, would only seem fair.

    Don't forget to make vampires burn in the sun as well, that would only seem fair.

    Except our clan is specifically not weak to sunlight.

    Surely you realize that decision was specifically made for player convenience, just like they also decided to change the vampire blood drinking mechanic from lowering vampirism, to increasing it instead, which also went against the established lore at the time.

    I just found it somewhat funny how you used the vampire blood drinking mechanic as an argument for implementing an inconvenience mechanic for non-vamps, as a reaction to a well deserved nerf that was long overdue.

    I have to absolutely agree with some of this. The most glaring thing lore wise is how do bloodfiends even happen? as we drink blood it should reduce our stages causing us to look normal so we can blend in with sociality and those who dont drink blood end up looking more like monsters and in time would turn into bloodfiends. thats how the process is suppose to go for vampires. @ZOS_Kevin could you please ring up the developers about this extremely important lore bit?
    Guild master of Darkness of Sanguinaris. Birthday is December 4th.
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    Everything past Stage 1 needs a scaling buff much like how the negatives debuffs scale to stage 4.
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    It lets you be just a bit uglier :)
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    It lets you be just a bit uglier :)

    Sorry to tell you this but if you were ugly as a Vampire then odds are your character was ugly as a mortal as well.
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    Blackrim wrote: »
    Everything past Stage 1 needs a scaling buff much like how the negatives debuffs scale to stage 4.

    I agree, I would make all passives stage 1 but make them stronger the higher your stage.
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    It lets you be just a bit uglier :)

    You mean more beautiful 💗😬
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    Arcanasx wrote: »
    Good riddance, vampire was a meme and people only used it to abuse undeath in pvp, now it can be the roleplay spec it was designed to be

    About time ZOS released a survival system to the game that only effects Non-Vampires, if Vampires have to drink blood why don't mortals need to drink water? that would be a much needed buff for Vampires don't you think, would only seem fair.

    Don't forget to make vampires burn in the sun as well, that would only seem fair.

    Bring back Oblivion vampires, where I once made the mistake of waiting outside after getting kicked out of a house during the day.

    Wait. Sizzle. Dead.

    It was glorious.

    You mean Oblivion Vampires where they got a +20 buff in many of their physical stats?
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    Be nice if the passive did something in order to make stage 3 worth it.... maybe.... a damage boost to vampire abilities? Nothing too strong, but maybe like a 5% damage boost to vampire abilities?

    A healing received buff might also be handy because I know it'll buff Blood Mist and Vampiric Drain slightly. Vampires playing into the kit already can't be healed by outside sources so the healing received would mostly be coming from them.

    Tie the buff on the passive to stage 3 so it requires taking the penalties of stage 3 or 4 to take advantage of.
    Edited by Vevvev on July 9, 2024 1:15AM
    PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK
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