Affix Scripts

AnnieK

I hate these things clogging up my inventory and I have so [snip] many of the things. I don't want to learn them until I have an understanding of this whole crappy scribing thing and I don't have time to waste reading about it. I don't have inventory space or bank space to just keep saving them and it seems a shame to just vendor the [snip].

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EdjeSwift

If you don't want to learn then, to which there is literally 0 drawback, then just vend them. You're choosing to keep them.

blktauna

Yet is the operative word her. Doesn't want to learn them yet. And this bound nonsense is on my last nerve.

EdjeSwift

blktauna wrote: »

Yet is the operative word her. Doesn't want to learn them yet. And this bound nonsense is on my last nerve.

Please show me where the word YET is? They say they don't want to use them until they have an understanding then follow up with not having time to waste reading.

MidniteOwl1913

EdjeSwift wrote: »

blktauna wrote: »

Yet is the operative word her. Doesn't want to learn them yet. And this bound nonsense is on my last nerve.

Please show me where the word YET is? They say they don't want to use them until they have an understanding then follow up with not having time to waste reading.

"Don't want to learn them until" sounds an awful lot like a yet to me...

blktauna

reading at this time. implied by the " I don't want to learn them until I have an understanding of this whole crappy scribing thing " I'm guessing if they didn't want to use them eventually they would just sell it withough asking the question.

Personally I'm in the similar position. I'm garnering a pile of this stuff and I haven't had the time to figure out what is good bad or indifferent and the way RNG is hateful it would be my luck to sell something that I'd later want and never see again

MidniteOwl1913

I've been learning them as I get them. I do read what the scripts do and learn them on the toons most likely to need that skill first.

I think the affix are the most versatile of the scripts.

EdjeSwift

blktauna wrote: »

reading at this time. implied by the " I don't want to learn them until I have an understanding of this whole crappy scribing thing " I'm guessing if they didn't want to use them eventually they would just sell it withough asking the question.

Personally I'm in the similar position. I'm garnering a pile of this stuff and I haven't had the time to figure out what is good bad or indifferent and the way RNG is hateful it would be my luck to sell something that I'd later want and never see again

That's not possible. Scripts are curated, as long as you need it on the character it'll appear. Only when you have nothing new to learn on a character will scripts start dropping repeats. Furthermore, you're GUARANTEED up to 9 scripts drop a day based upon your playstyle.

EdjeSwift

MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »

EdjeSwift wrote: »

blktauna wrote: »

Yet is the operative word her. Doesn't want to learn them yet. And this bound nonsense is on my last nerve.

Please show me where the word YET is? They say they don't want to use them until they have an understanding then follow up with not having time to waste reading.

"Don't want to learn them until" sounds an awful lot like a yet to me...

Then you read the next bit about not having time to waste, which invalidates that statement.

MidniteOwl1913

EdjeSwift wrote: »

MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »

EdjeSwift wrote: »

blktauna wrote: »

Yet is the operative word her. Doesn't want to learn them yet. And this bound nonsense is on my last nerve.

Please show me where the word YET is? They say they don't want to use them until they have an understanding then follow up with not having time to waste reading.

"Don't want to learn them until" sounds an awful lot like a yet to me...

Then you read the next bit about not having time to waste, which invalidates that statement.

I read that I don't have time to waste right *now*, otherwise why care about the scripts at all? Just bin them.

blktauna

Good to know but I have limited time at the moment and have not even begun to look into what does what.

However my main is gathering piles of these things and I have enough inventory problems without these adding on.

MidniteOwl1913

You could just pick one toon to learn all of the ones that you have duplicates of that would reduce the volume without much loss of options.

LatentBuzzard

AnnieK wrote: »

I hate these things clogging up my inventory and I have so [snip] many of the things. I don't want to learn them until I have an understanding of this whole crappy scribing thing and I don't have time to waste reading about it. I don't have inventory space or bank space to just keep saving them and it seems a shame to just vendor the [snip].

This is like picking up a recipe or furnishing plan and then saying "I don't want to read this until I've spent time thinking about whether I'll ever craft this item". Just read the scripts and move on. You don't have to understand this "scribing thing" to read them as just like with recipe or furnishing plans, the knowledge will be on that character for you to use in the future or not. If you want to use the knowledge then it's there and if you don't want to use the knowledge then it makes no difference to you.

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AnduinTryggva

AnnieK wrote: »

I hate these things clogging up my inventory and I have so [snip] many of the things. I don't want to learn them until I have an understanding of this whole crappy scribing thing and I don't have time to waste reading about it. I don't have inventory space or bank space to just keep saving them and it seems a shame to just vendor the [snip]

Just learn them right now. You still can study them later:

Press K then on the right upper corner select scribing and check out the affix items.

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RexyCat

AnnieK wrote: »

I hate these things clogging up my inventory and I have so [snip] many of the things. I don't want to learn them until I have an understanding of this whole crappy scribing thing and I don't have time to waste reading about it. I don't have inventory space or bank space to just keep saving them and it seems a shame to just vendor the [snip].

Curated items like Affix need to be used on that character to avoid getting more of the same item. It doesn't take much time just right click or double click on item to add it to your characters knowledge for using that item at Scribing Altar.

You are actually creating an issue where there is no issue as you can get the same item on other character when those haven't had that item added to their knowledge (aka have used that item and then get an internal flag for that item to not be part of possible loot table).

https://alcasthq.com/eso-focus-signature-affix-scrips-list/#script-drop-chance

"Bound" means here that you can not sell Script to another account or transfer (through Guild Bank, Mail or Guild Store), but you can still use Bank which is account wide to move item to another character. Only if tooltip states that item is "character bound" it will be locked to that character that gets that item in inventory.

From link:

Once a Script is in your inventory, you can consume it to permanently unlock that Script effect for the ESO Scribing system. Scripts are technically not account wide, but you are able to buy or loot a script on one of your characters and transfer it to your other characters by depositing it in your bank.

You will need to finish each Wing to start getting Focus, Signature and Affix Script.

There is also the option to purchase Script from Guild Store:

All players, regardless of Gold Road ownership, have a very small chance to receive Scripts via world drops, which are unbound and tradeable.​

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Tommy_The_Gun

For whatever reason, ZOS added level requirement to learn those. This means that you can not just learn them on an Alt. Other character not only needs to be on a certain level, but what is worse, each character needs to have certain skill types also an certain level (example: Affix needed for Bow scribing skill requires bow skill line to be on a specific level).

I can not see this serving any good purpose. The only reason of why such requirement was added is to make inventory management worse and force players to level up alts to increase play time. It is Bound, so you can not sell it. There are tons of those scripts that take up a lot of inventory space slots, as you for 100% will have a lot of duplicates. It is one of those "unwanted" rewards that may make people to think twice before doing guild quests, which (without this reward) they would just do the quest.

Best way is to right click-> Destroy. I doubt ZOS wanted us to have this extra steps after each daily quest, but it is what it is.

Edit: For whatever reason I can not quote some one (website cogwheel UI error), so I will edit this post:
Maybe it is just character level then ? I have level 30 alt that I am slowly grinding to level 50 and I can not learn all of the random scribing books that I farmed on my main (duplicates) from daily quests. I was able to learn some, but on some I still get the message that I have too low level. I remember seeing that it may require level 30, so when I reached that level & still could not learn some of those scribing books, I assumed that it was a skill level for various skill tries.

ShadowPaladin

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

For whatever reason, ZOS added level requirement to learn those. This means that you can not just learn them on an Alt. Other character not only needs to be on a certain level, but what is worse, each character needs to have certain skill types also an certain level (example: Affix needed for Bow scribing skill requires bow skill line to be on a specific level).

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Uh, sorry if I am mistaken, but I was able to learn all Affix scrips (these ones https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Affix_Script_Mastery) on one and the same char WITHOUT having the skills leveled to max. My main is a Magi-Sorc-DD and I do not have any sword or bow skills leveled on it, but still was able to learn them all.

I think what you mean are the *books* (Grimoires) you can buy from the vendor inside the Scholarium. For those you will need to have unlocked and/or leveled the skill.

xylena_lazarow

Meanwhile in PvP: zero Affix Scripts, ever. What a horrendous acquisition system. I want my $40 back.

BlueRaven

blktauna wrote: »

Good to know but I have limited time at the moment and have not even begun to look into what does what.

However my main is gathering piles of these things and I have enough inventory problems without these adding on.

I don’t understand what your issue is. Learn them if you can, give extras to alts. The only downside is NOT learning them and letting them take up bag space. It really does not matter if one is “better” than others, just learn them, focusing on your main character(s) first. There is zero downside.

xylena_lazarow

BlueRaven wrote: »

I don’t understand what your issue is.

It's a godawful acquisition system that clogs the inventories of players who don't need the drops, while players who do need the drops are gatekept by horrendous grinds on top of the paywall.

kringled_1

If you completely don't need the drops, then vendor them, it's easy.

BlueRaven

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

BlueRaven wrote: »

I don’t understand what your issue is.

It's a godawful acquisition system that clogs the inventories of players who don't need the drops, while players who do need the drops are gatekept by horrendous grinds on top of the paywall.

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kringled_1 wrote: »

If you completely don't need the drops, then vendor them, it's easy.

^^ This ^^

I keep getting green level cooking recipes as provision writ rewards. I just vendor them, it’s not a big deal.

haelgaan

i'm confused - i thought all affix scripts can all be gotten through daily quest coffers.

why do they make a fragment version of affix scripts?

is there some other affix thingie that can only be earned through combining these fragments, or is this only a different way to earn the affix scripts that you can get from coffers?

(i know there is one class script that can only be gotten through collecting certain fragments, but it thought it was only that one class script)

xylena_lazarow

gotta love all the git gud posts regarding inventory management, much skill, fun gameplay, peak 00s game design

maybe players just don't wanna feel like their time is being wasted by inane logistics?

personally I use Dustman addon to junk everything and then I press the X key to destroy it all

LittlePinkDot

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Meanwhile in PvP: zero Affix Scripts, ever. What a horrendous acquisition system. I want my $40 back.

Really? We can't get scripts in PvP? [snip]

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Vonnegut2506

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Meanwhile in PvP: zero Affix Scripts, ever. What a horrendous acquisition system. I want my $40 back.

Really? We can't get scripts in PvP? [snip]

You can get all of them from PvP. Focus drops from Rewards of the Worthy boxes; Affix drop from IC dailies; and Signature drop from Cyro dailies.

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Erickson9610

Vonnegut2506 wrote: »

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Meanwhile in PvP: zero Affix Scripts, ever. What a horrendous acquisition system. I want my $40 back.

Really? We can't get scripts in PvP? [snip]

You can get all of them from PvP. Focus drops from Rewards of the Worthy boxes; Affix drop from IC dailies; and Signature drop from Cyro dailies.

The argument being made is that Imperial City dailies require us to do PvE quests in that PvP zone. That is, you need to kill certain mobs, rescue certain NPCs, or go to specific places in that district and do something there. That's not PvP — it's just PvE in a PvPvE zone.

If Imperial City truly had PvP daily quests, it'd be along the lines of "Capture 1 District" or "Kill 10 Enemy Players".

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ESO_player123

ShadowPaladin wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

For whatever reason, ZOS added level requirement to learn those. This means that you can not just learn them on an Alt. Other character not only needs to be on a certain level, but what is worse, each character needs to have certain skill types also an certain level (example: Affix needed for Bow scribing skill requires bow skill line to be on a specific level).

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Uh, sorry if I am mistaken, but I was able to learn all Affix scrips (these ones https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Affix_Script_Mastery) on one and the same char WITHOUT having the skills leveled to max. My main is a Magi-Sorc-DD and I do not have any sword or bow skills leveled on it, but still was able to learn them all.

I think what you mean are the *books* (Grimoires) you can buy from the vendor inside the Scholarium. For those you will need to have unlocked and/or leveled the skill.

Just to learn? I doubt that. I bought and learnt the Mender's Bond grimoire (Restoration skill line) on a DD toon that does not have Restoration levelled.

ESO_player123

haelgaan wrote: »

i'm confused - i thought all affix scripts can all be gotten through daily quest coffers.

why do they make a fragment version of affix scripts?

is there some other affix thingie that can only be earned through combining these fragments, or is this only a different way to earn the affix scripts that you can get from coffers?

(i know there is one class script that can only be gotten through collecting certain fragments, but it thought it was only that one class script)

I'm not sure what you are talking about. I've never seen any Affix script fragments.

blktauna

BlueRaven wrote: »

I don’t understand what your issue is. Learn them if you can, give extras to alts. The only downside is NOT learning them and letting them take up bag space. It really does not matter if one is “better” than others, just learn them, focusing on your main character(s) first. There is zero downside.

There are pieces that are bound and can not be given to alts. Anythin bankable is there where it belongs. Whay is any of this bound?

MidniteOwl1913

blktauna wrote: »

BlueRaven wrote: »

I don’t understand what your issue is. Learn them if you can, give extras to alts. The only downside is NOT learning them and letting them take up bag space. It really does not matter if one is “better” than others, just learn them, focusing on your main character(s) first. There is zero downside.

There are pieces that are bound and can not be given to alts. Anythin bankable is there where it belongs. Whay is any of this bound?

Scripts are account bound not character bound. There shouldn't be any you can't bank.