Would you prefer for Luminous Ink to also drop from crafting surveys?

Gray_howling_parrot
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Hi guys! @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Hope you guys are having a fantastic day! I was wondering why it was decided that luminous inks would not drop from crafting surveys, which while tied to a crafting reward, technically ARE resource nodes. Could help the drop rate issue quite a bit if this was changed and I wanted to make this poll to give y'all an idea about how many people in the community would prefer this. Thanks :D
Edited by Gray_howling_parrot on June 22, 2024 2:41PM
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Would you prefer for Luminous Ink to also drop from crafting surveys? 103 votes

Yes
81%
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No
18%
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  • Tandor
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    No
    I only do writs for endeavours, so surveys are few and far between. As a replacement for resource nodes they would therefore be a useless way of getting ink, but as an additional source they would be ok except that the drop rate would doubtless mean people would hardly ever get any from surveys.
  • TheDarkRuler
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    Yes, I see no reason why.
    The upgrade says all resource nodes so I dont get it why they are excluded.
  • Gray_howling_parrot
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    Yes
    Tandor wrote: »
    I only do writs for endeavours, so surveys are few and far between. As a replacement for resource nodes they would therefore be a useless way of getting ink, but as an additional source they would be ok except that the drop rate would doubtless mean people would hardly ever get any from surveys.

    Never stated they'd replace resource nodes as a source... Simply said since they are resources, technically it'd be nice if they dropped them as well.
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  • tonyblack
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    No
    It should be sold by same npc who sell scripts for gold along with all the ones we already unlock not just another limited time offers…
  • Gray_howling_parrot
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    Yes
    tonyblack wrote: »
    It should be sold by same npc who sell scripts for gold along with all the ones we already unlock not just another limited time offers…

    Ok yes, that'd be nice for sure! But you do NOT want them to drop from surveys?
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  • Tandor
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    No
    Tandor wrote: »
    I only do writs for endeavours, so surveys are few and far between. As a replacement for resource nodes they would therefore be a useless way of getting ink, but as an additional source they would be ok except that the drop rate would doubtless mean people would hardly ever get any from surveys.

    Never stated they'd replace resource nodes as a source... Simply said since they are resources, technically it'd be nice if they dropped them as well.

    That's why I covered both options, as your original suggestion wasn't specific on the point.
  • XSTRONG
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    No
    I think Zos should add Ink to a daily instead like Infinite Archive daily.
  • Gray_howling_parrot
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    Yes
    XSTRONG wrote: »
    I think Zos should add Ink to a daily instead like Infinite Archive daily.

    That'd be a cool additional option!
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  • DenverRalphy
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    No
    I don't see any issue with the drop rate. It's not exclusive to resource nodes as you can also get the ink from mob drops and backpacks as well.

    After the initial hoopla settles to a normal calm again, and wasting ink on experimentation ends, everybody will realize that you really don't need a lot of ink anyway. Ink isn't needed to grind out any skill leveling, and once a character has scribed what will eventually land on their hotbar, you'll rarely need it again.

    Ink is already starting to pile up on the Traders, and it won't be long until the price drops to an acceptable norm. If you increase the droprate, the ink will become pretty much worthless.
    Edited by DenverRalphy on June 22, 2024 3:03PM
  • Mathius_Mordred
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    Yes
    Right now I'd prefer them to drop from anything because apart from the occasional resource node and 1 in a thousand mob kills it just doesn't.
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  • xylena_lazarow
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    No
    Ink drops should be added to an actual PvP source like reward emails. I myself can pay the gold, but a lot of PvPers can't, so they simply aren't touching the system because Ink doesn't drop from anything PvP related.
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  • EdjeSwift
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    Ink drops should be added to an actual PvP source like reward emails. I myself can pay the gold, but a lot of PvPers can't, so they simply aren't touching the system because Ink doesn't drop from anything PvP related.

    I have gotten probably 10% or more of my ink from PvP zones. Cyrodiil is actually quite node laden and there are many NPCs to kill. IC is also quite NPC heavy as well. There are avenues for people in these zones to get ink.
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  • Destai
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    Yes
    Absolutely, I want more value out of them. They’ve yet to disincentivize hoarding, and I think this is worth a shot.
  • Zodiarkslayer
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    Other: Explain Why!

    Well, having to pay with an artificially shortaged ressource for a mechanic, that should be readily available and that you already have paid for with real life currency, is ridiculous.
    If anyone here says: OH! But, PVP! I swear I'll ...

    Thank you for the valuable input and respectfully recommend to discuss that aspect of ESO on the PVP forum.
  • HappyTheCamper
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    Yes
    I would prefer Luminous Ink to drop
  • boi_anachronism_
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    Yes
    It would be nice for it to drop at all. Ive gotten 3 in 2 days.
  • OsUfi
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    No
    Not really. I'd prefer them to drop from a variety of activities. As it stands, I'm 60 hours + of game time since I finished the scribong quest, I've picked countless flowers and not gotten a single gosh darn tooting ink since the initial 12. Give a chance from boss kills, rnds, trials, PvP coffers, master writs, etc.
  • I_killed_Vivec
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    Yes
    OsUfi wrote: »
    Not really. I'd prefer them to drop from a variety of activities. As it stands, I'm 60 hours + of game time since I finished the scribong quest, I've picked countless flowers and not gotten a single gosh darn tooting ink since the initial 12. Give a chance from boss kills, rnds, trials, PvP coffers, master writs, etc.

    OP asked "Would you prefer for Luminous Ink to also drop from crafting surveys?"

    Yes, drop from a variety of activities, but also from surveys.
  • shadyjane62
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    Yes
    They should drop like Mana from Heaven.
  • Vonnegut2506
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    Yes
    I wish they would drop from surveys, daily quests, be able to be crafted with a provisioning or alchemy recipe, be included in random dungeon rewards, etc., and I say that as someone who has plenty of ink. It should be a fun system to experiment with, not a decision that you have to spend time worrying if what you are doing is going to cost you multiple hours of farming.
  • Gray_howling_parrot
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    Yes
    OsUfi wrote: »
    Not really. I'd prefer them to drop from a variety of activities. As it stands, I'm 60 hours + of game time since I finished the scribong quest, I've picked countless flowers and not gotten a single gosh darn tooting ink since the initial 12. Give a chance from boss kills, rnds, trials, PvP coffers, master writs, etc.

    I would think your answer would be yes based on your description lol! I think it's a "duh" thing regarding a higher drop chance & adding even more sources, but being that our 2 only sources are currently resources and killing monsters, I found it odd that surveys didn't count considering it's collecting resources. As such, my question pertained to that - not "Would you rather get inks from surveys and no other sources." Lol
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  • oldbobdude
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    No
    I don’t think that would fix the problem. If the drop rate is too low then just adding a new source for a poor drop rate wouldn’t do it. I personally haven’t done the quest lines for scribing so no personal knowledge. But from what I’ve read on forum the actual rate (daily limits, chance for drop) should be adjusted.
  • Gray_howling_parrot
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    Yes
    I feel like every "no" I've seen thus far has been a "no, we want it from these other sources," but it's not a no to the question I asked, which is to add inks to the loot table of surveys (i.e. resource gathering).

    I too would like inks in the daily login rewards; rewards for the worthy; as a daily reward for your daily RND, TOT or BGs; as a hireling correspondence; as a daily writ reward.

    Not the question I was asking though :)
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  • TaSheen
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    I'm not sure I have either a yes or no opinion. It would depend on how it's implemented - if it gets put into survey drops at the expense of housing mats, then probably no. If in addition to them, then probably yes.

    I use a lot more housing mats than I will ink....
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  • bmnoble
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    No
    Would rather they scrap the ink altogether and have a gold fee instead, in the same way it is handled with skills/morphs at the shrines or resetting your champion points.
  • tonyblack
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    No
    tonyblack wrote: »
    It should be sold by same npc who sell scripts for gold along with all the ones we already unlock not just another limited time offers…

    Ok yes, that'd be nice for sure! But you do NOT want them to drop from surveys?

    I hate doing writs and farming materials so I disagree that a system focused on new combat skills should be put in non combat sources. Getting them from dungeons, trials, pvp would be fine by me, writs spam bring too much rewards as it is.
    Edited by tonyblack on June 22, 2024 11:29PM
  • Desiato
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    bmnoble wrote: »
    Would rather they scrap the ink altogether and have a gold fee instead, in the same way it is handled with skills/morphs at the shrines or resetting your champion points.

    I have good news for you! You can buy ink with... gold.
    spending a year dead for tax reasons
  • kargen27
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    This is one of those depends type of question. ZoS is looking at the drops to see if there needs to be an adjustment. If they think there needs to be an adjustment for drop rates I would rather they go with higher percentages from the already existing sources instead of leaving those the same and adding surveys.
    If they decide the rate is fine then adding ink to surveys would mean lowering the drop rate from other sources to keep the numbers where they want. For me this scenario would be something I don't want.
    Only way I would want ink added to surveys is if it had no impact at all on existing resources for ink. Being honest I think this is a problem that will fix itself in a couple of months. The demand will go down as players settle on a build and we will see prices go down in guild stores. Ink is a new commodity so of course there will be high demand and low supply at the start. Just like most other things eventually supply will catch up with demand.
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  • chessalavakia_ESO
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    No
    I'm of the view that crafting writs should be less rewarding not more.

    You have millions of downloads for addons that make the process of doing writs easier.

    To me, that suggests that boatloads of people are doing them that don't actually enjoy it because the rewards are too good to miss.

    When I do the daily crafting writs, I'm not doing them because it's fun. I'm doing them because I want the rewards.
  • TaSheen
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    I'm of the view that crafting writs should be less rewarding not more.

    You have millions of downloads for addons that make the process of doing writs easier.

    To me, that suggests that boatloads of people are doing them that don't actually enjoy it because the rewards are too good to miss.

    When I do the daily crafting writs, I'm not doing them because it's fun. I'm doing them because I want the rewards.

    *shrug* I do them because I find them fun. At least now that I'm not doing them on gobs of alts over 4 accounts....
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