This game feels very alive

Parasaurolophus · June 1

I haven’t been able to put together a party for 6 keys for 8 hours now. Day off, prime time.

Dracane · June 1

What is your prefered role? You can come with us every day. (Also PC EU) I am both tank and healer, and my partner is a good DD. Harder content we sometimes do with a dedicated healer.

We find groups via the tool within seconds or minutes no matter what time of day. We are always on the lookout for reliable and passionate people though.

Arcturus · June 1

I wouldn't necesarily call the game empty, but from my POV there sure is a large amount of players that don't seem to be interested in doing much of anything other than overland and housing.

belial5221_ESO · June 1

Vet and dlc dungeons have less people doing them,cause people like to speedrun for the xp and rewards more.If they'd up rewards for DLC and vet mode,more would probably be interested.

Sepultura_13 · June 1

Arcturus wrote: »

I wouldn't necesarily call the game empty, but from my POV there sure is a large amount of players that don't seem to be interested in doing much of anything other than overland and housing.

If only they were just doing overland and housing. From what I see, there are a ton of players who:

1. Stand in doorways doing nothing.
2. Stand at the gate/home wayshrines in Cyrodiil, doing nothing.
3. Stand around at the ToT tables hacking the card matches.

I can't and won't mention the other stuff they do in some of the cities, since it's pretty sick. Reporting criminal activity doesn't get a response, so there's no point in being specific.

Dracane · June 1

I believe DDs will have it a wee easier to find groups soon. The scribed skills make tanking and supporting so much fun, and makes more classes viable than just DK and Arcanist. I fully expect more tanks and healers to show up in the queue as people gain access to those combinations.

Rkindaleft · June 1

Arcturus wrote: »

I wouldn't necesarily call the game empty, but from my POV there sure is a large amount of players that don't seem to be interested in doing much of anything other than overland and housing.

I'd like to see some statistics of the % of active players that regularly participate in pledges, vet dungeons or trials (or really any content designed for groups.)

I'd say 90% of total players in the game play it like Skyrim 2.0 completely solo and don't really interact with anyone.

Crismac · June 1

Rkindaleft, In my case you just described my entire role in eso. Never once have I done any group content.

CrashTest · June 1

Sepultura_13 wrote: »

2. Stand at the gate/home wayshrines in Cyrodiil, doing nothing.

Sorry, that's just me spying.

Hapexamendios · June 1

I did 6 normal trials yesterday so it's been pretty lively imo.

karthrag_inak · June 2

Forums are full of complaints about other players' dungeon behavior "not measuring up".
Players are reticent to queue up for dungeons.

Coincidence or cause and effect?

Tune in for Khajiit's special report.

Desiato · June 2

It's the typical lull before a new chapter launch.

Orbital78 · June 2

Parasaurolophus wrote: »

I haven’t been able to put together a party for 6 keys for 8 hours now. Day off, prime time.

Try joining a larger active guild. Personally I am soloing the archive to prepare fortunes for scribing. Random dungeons aren't that fun for some.

ProudMary · June 2

Parasaurolophus wrote: »

I haven’t been able to put together a party for 6 keys for 8 hours now. Day off, prime time.

Another casualty of U35. People used to join guilds to run pledges, but most of those guilds have fallen to ruin since U35. ZOS can't say they weren't warned.

xylena_lazarow · June 2

6 keys has never been easy to get people for. It's a bigger time commitment than queueing into a single dungeon, and the vet DLC component has never been friendly to random groups.

Oznog666 · June 2

And one more reason: 6 keys means that one need Eso+ or the DLCs to participate, I'm having currently Eso+ but my wife, my son and my daughter in law don't. But whenever I am queuing for the daily random dungeon it takes just 1 to 5 minutes with healer and tank and 1 to 15 Minutes with my DD.

I even might have seen your request the other day but to be honest: I don't need the keys because since 2 years I'm buying every shoulder at the golden vendor so there is not really a reason to do it. Thats why I prefer a random dungeon for the crystals or - if there's an interesting dungeon in the new search tool I'm joining them just for fun.

EdjeSwift · June 2

Isn't it 8 keys now?

6 key could be:
A DLC HM, and two normal base game dungeons.
Two Vet Base game dungeons and a normal DLC
or
A Vet DLC, a Vet Base Game, and a normal base game

I_killed_Vivec · June 2

Desiato wrote: »

It's the typical lull before a new chapter launch.

And it's summer! I've switched my angling activities from Tamriel to the lake down the road!

Tandor · June 2

Rkindaleft wrote: »

Arcturus wrote: »

I wouldn't necesarily call the game empty, but from my POV there sure is a large amount of players that don't seem to be interested in doing much of anything other than overland and housing.

I'd like to see some statistics of the % of active players that regularly participate in pledges, vet dungeons or trials (or really any content designed for groups.)

I'd say 90% of total players in the game play it like Skyrim 2.0 completely solo and don't really interact with anyone.

I think that's probably true, and it doesn't detract from the success of the game at all, on the contrary it has been the basis for its continued success.

I interact with others in the sense of doing some group content like world bosses, dolmens and public dungeons alongside other players but I'm not grouped with them, in fact I don't recall ever being in a group at all in ESO. I guess with that playstyle it's not surprising that I don't have a clue what these "6 keys" are that the OP mentioned!

LostScot · June 2

There have been a few decisions by the developers lately that have caused players to turn away from the game.

One of the bigger middle fingers was turning off the ability to accept credit card payments from a large number of European banks. People who can't pay are very likely to walk away.

vsrs_au · June 2

Crismac wrote: »

Rkindaleft, In my case you just described my entire role in eso. Never once have I done any group content.

Same here, apart from a handful of informal groupings with fellow guild members over the last 3+ years. I've never done a RND (in fact, after everything I've read about them, I was quite frankly very put off the idea).

WhiteCoatSyndrome · June 2

I’m cleaning out Treasure Maps and Survey Writs and jamming dailies onto all my characters so I can turn them in after Scribing hits. Not taking a lot of time for group content, maybe after the Chapter drops.

Blood_again · June 2

Parasaurolophus wrote: »

I haven’t been able to put together a party for 6 keys for 8 hours now. Day off, prime time.

What did you do for it?
I ran 6 keys two times with my alts yesterday. PC EU, queued as DD, wait time was 10-12 minutes max.

If you try to queue and time is over 15 minutes, you should just requeue, because it is probably bugged. Happens.
Waiting 8h queue in a pledge day is unreal.

If you try to put the party together a different way and haven't managed for 8h, sorry you probably do something wrong.
Zone chat in Stormhaven/Deshaan/Grahtwood or joining a dungeoneer guild might help a lot.

Rkindaleft · June 2

Tandor wrote: »

Rkindaleft wrote: »

Arcturus wrote: »

I wouldn't necesarily call the game empty, but from my POV there sure is a large amount of players that don't seem to be interested in doing much of anything other than overland and housing.

I'd like to see some statistics of the % of active players that regularly participate in pledges, vet dungeons or trials (or really any content designed for groups.)

I'd say 90% of total players in the game play it like Skyrim 2.0 completely solo and don't really interact with anyone.

I think that's probably true, and it doesn't detract from the success of the game at all, on the contrary it has been the basis for its continued success.

I interact with others in the sense of doing some group content like world bosses, dolmens and public dungeons alongside other players but I'm not grouped with them, in fact I don't recall ever being in a group at all in ESO. I guess with that playstyle it's not surprising that I don't have a clue what these "6 keys" are that the OP mentioned!

The OP means that they tried to find a group to do undaunted pledges on Veteran (completion of the undaunted daily quest for that specific dungeon grants undaunted keys, which is used to open the undaunted chest for a random monster set shoulder piece, the amount of keys you get depends on the difficulty you do it on, 2 keys for HM and there is 3 dailies) but couldn’t find enough players to form a group and didn’t queue for the dungeon, which is why I made the point that 90% of players in the game only do overland solo and don’t participate in group content.

In general compared to the rest of the game the amount of players who do high level PvE is extremely small (not that I think veteran dungeons are high level PvE, I have 6 trial trifecta titles, but I suppose it’s a matter of perspective.)

Blood_again · June 2

EdjeSwift wrote: »

Isn't it 8 keys now?

6 key could be:
A DLC HM, and two normal base game dungeons.
Two Vet Base game dungeons and a normal DLC
or
A Vet DLC, a Vet Base Game, and a normal base game

Two vet nonDLC HMs and a normal DLC - this is statistically correct guess for current "6 keys" in the game. The diffuculty of each step is comparable this way.

Doing non-DLC normal when you are able to do DLC vet or DLC HM is rare. Players are usually more specific, when they want to run such an exotic variants.

kaushad · June 2

It has never occurred to me to create or join a group for three dungeons in a row. But I'm only going play three dungeons in a row during an Undaunted event or an ESO Plus trial. And in the latter case, that's one non-DLC dungeon (the random daily) at most.

Sepultura_13 · June 2

CrashTest wrote: »

Sepultura_13 wrote: »

2. Stand at the gate/home wayshrines in Cyrodiil, doing nothing.

Sorry, that's just me spying.

Spying? In Cyro? That NEVER happens, LOL

tincanman · June 2

pceu is active for a few peak hours in the evening then it's just dead.

pcna seems pretty consistently active.

SilverBride · June 2

LostScot wrote: »

One of the bigger middle fingers was turning off the ability to accept credit card payments from a large number of European banks. People who can't pay are very likely to walk away.

Do we know that ZoS is refusing the credit cards? Or could it be the credit cards that are refusing the transaction?

LostScot · June 2

SilverBride wrote: »

LostScot wrote: »

One of the bigger middle fingers was turning off the ability to accept credit card payments from a large number of European banks. People who can't pay are very likely to walk away.

Do we know that ZoS is refusing the credit cards? Or could it be the credit cards that are refusing the transaction?

Their Worldline Global account is not configured the same way as it was in April 2024 and before. It will decline a large number of IINs from European banks - this happens as a customer types in the first 6 digits of their card. If the first 6 digits are not included in one of the global regions enabled for Zenimax's Worldline Global account then it disables the payment submission button.

Once the payment submission button is greyed out after typing the first 6 digits of the card, there is no way to submit the payment for processing by the acquirer (Worldline Global) and our banks.

SeaGtGruff · June 2

karthrag_inak wrote: »

Forums are full of complaints about other players' dungeon behavior "not measuring up".

Players are reticent to queue up for dungeons.

Coincidence or cause and effect?

Tune in for Khajiit's special report.

Yep, I would queue for dungeons and trials if I weren't so worried about my DPS being too low and my tankiness not being tanky enough for the other players in the group.

Sepultura_13 wrote: »

3. Stand around at the ToT tables hacking the card matches.

What do you mean by "hacking the card matches"? One player cannot affect another player's card matches with the NPCs.