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Cloaks?
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Warhawke_80✭✭✭✭✭No, I don't need to look like Errol Flynn in Robin Hood.
Odd that is what you picture....most would think of Strider in Lord Of The Rings....““Elric knew. The sword told him, without words of any sort. Stormbringer needed to fight, for that was its reason for existence...”― Michael Moorcock, Elric of Melniboné1 -
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This, everybody hate the floating shields who I say is stupid. If you use an shield don't use oversize gauntlets.While I love cloaks in other games and have always been disappointed that ESO could not manage them.... if you look up actual visuals of what the cloaks looked like, well, Zenimax couldn't really do them justice and something tells me that hasn't changed. My guess is they would have to redo the whole player model skeletons and definitely improve the games physics to make them look even remotely decent, and sadly I don't see Zenimax ever putting that much effort into this game considering they didn't even do so prior to launch. Short or not, I just can't see it happening or being done well.
I threw this together for another cloak thread awhile back, but I think this perfectly shows that there's definitely a skeleton and rigging issue with the ESO model (the cloak being almost glued to the upper back, bunching up, then once again directly sticking to the lower back, then shooting straight down to the ankles) vs the WoW character model.
If anything, it'd be nice if they just stopped making weird leg armor that look like tight fitting pajama pants or onesie looking armor sets. I use a lot of the leg gear with the half "skirt" armor styles to create kind of short robe-like outfits on my Khajiit sorcerer, but there's only so many of them. But that at least doesn't make my character look like he forgot a part of his outfit as much.
But clocks have to play well with long hair, weapons on the back and tails.
Tails already looses out with two handed weapons as so many cut your tail then running.
Argonians probably has more issues than this one.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.1 -
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Yeah, to make them not look as terrible as the picture I posted they would definitely need a whole nother skeleton for player models with more bones and nodes. Now that you said this I actually wish I would have used a WoW race with a tail in my example and not just one with long hair, but at the time I already had the WoW character model put together because I was also using it to explain to my friend why robe skirts in ESO look as awkward and stiff as they do.But clocks have to play well with long hair, weapons on the back and tails.
Tails already looses out with two handed weapons as so many cut your tail then running.
Argonians probably has more issues than this one.0 -
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All of those involve flying, except maybe the elevator, and since we can't fly in this game capes should not be any danger.
However I would rather not have cloaks given the inability of the game engine to render them properly.0 -
LaintalAy✭✭✭✭✭Warhawke_80 wrote: »
I think my point is that it's a stupid look.
I tried to read the Hobbit 50 years ago, but it was about fairies and goblins and I was more into spaceships. I tried to watch LOTR on dvd 20 years ago, but several attempts always put me to sleep, unlike 'Aliens'. I have no idea who Strider is.
Game over, manHudson ~ Aliens ~ 19860 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Look at a character with long hair and the desire for a cloak will go away. It's like plastic snap-on DEVO hair that doesn't ever move. Cloaks or capes would be much worse.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."1 -
TheMajority✭✭✭✭✭Warhawke_80 wrote: »
I think my point is that it's a stupid look.
I tried to read the Hobbit 50 years ago, but it was about fairies and goblins and I was more into spaceships. I tried to watch LOTR on dvd 20 years ago, but several attempts always put me to sleep, unlike 'Aliens'. I have no idea who Strider is.
The look ain't stupid. You obviously just don't like fantasy or the genre. That doesn't make it stupid looking.
Why are you playing a fantasy videogame if you like aliens and spaceships? don't even make sense
Your opinion really isn't an expression of players since you don't even like the genreTime flies like an arrow- but fruit flies like a banana.
Sorry for my English, I do not always have a translation tool available. Thank you for your patience with our conversation and working towards our mutual understanding of the topic.7 -
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✭Warhawke_80 wrote: »
I think my point is that it's a stupid look.
I tried to read the Hobbit 50 years ago, but it was about fairies and goblins and I was more into spaceships. I tried to watch LOTR on dvd 20 years ago, but several attempts always put me to sleep, unlike 'Aliens'. I have no idea who Strider is.
What on earth do you play this tolkein derived game for then4 -
M0ntie✭✭✭✭✭Warhawke_80 wrote: »
I think my point is that it's a stupid look.
I tried to read the Hobbit 50 years ago, but it was about fairies and goblins and I was more into spaceships. I tried to watch LOTR on dvd 20 years ago, but several attempts always put me to sleep, unlike 'Aliens'. I have no idea who Strider is.
Strider is Aragorn, one of the lead characters in Lord of the Rings.
And a good reason for capes.
I also dont know why ur playing ESO if you don't like the medieval fantasy genre1 -
LaintalAy✭✭✭✭✭TheMajority wrote: »Warhawke_80 wrote: »
I think my point is that it's a stupid look.
I tried to read the Hobbit 50 years ago, but it was about fairies and goblins and I was more into spaceships. I tried to watch LOTR on dvd 20 years ago, but several attempts always put me to sleep, unlike 'Aliens'. I have no idea who Strider is.
The look ain't stupid. You obviously just don't like fantasy or the genre. That doesn't make it stupid looking.
Why are you playing a fantasy videogame if you like aliens and spaceships? don't even make sense
Your opinion really isn't an expression of players since you don't even like the genre
Maybe you've never watched the 1938 version of Robin Hood.
When it was released in 2002, Morrowind was an alien world. There were no horses. there were no 'Robin Hoods' or 'Dennis Fords'. The alien-ness of Tamriel in ESO has been watered down over the years to cater to people from Those Other Games.
Now its more like a Medieval Re-enactor's ball.
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M0ntie✭✭✭✭✭Do you mean "Other Games" like Skyrim, which is medieval style fantasy also? @LaintalAy0
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TheMajority✭✭✭✭✭TheMajority wrote: »Warhawke_80 wrote: »
I think my point is that it's a stupid look.
I tried to read the Hobbit 50 years ago, but it was about fairies and goblins and I was more into spaceships. I tried to watch LOTR on dvd 20 years ago, but several attempts always put me to sleep, unlike 'Aliens'. I have no idea who Strider is.
The look ain't stupid. You obviously just don't like fantasy or the genre. That doesn't make it stupid looking.
Why are you playing a fantasy videogame if you like aliens and spaceships? don't even make sense
Your opinion really isn't an expression of players since you don't even like the genre
Maybe you've never watched the 1938 version of Robin Hood.
When it was released in 2002, Morrowind was an alien world. There were no horses. there were no 'Robin Hoods' or 'Dennis Fords'. The alien-ness of Tamriel in ESO has been watered down over the years to cater to people from Those Other Games.
Now its more like a Medieval Re-enactor's ball.
matter of fact I have seen it, good movie
Morrowind isn't much of an alien world. All you have to do is open a book of fairy tales or other fantasy to see lands of giant mushrooms. Morrowind was meant for the fantasy crowd all along, with dark elves and such.
Fantasy worlds with mushroom houses, homes made of fungus, are very old in mythologies and fantasies of mankind.
I think you are not very familiar with how broad the fantasy genre is and where it comes from.
Morrowind's clothing is also very typical of a fantasy environment.
Morrowind is also obviously not all of the lore of the world of Tamriel. It was not watered down, it was expanded on.
Also, the game Daggerfall precedes Morrowind. It was released in 1996, and has elements of traditional medieval fantasy. This was already in Tamriel's world.
I hate to break it to you but there was cloaks back in 1996. https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Formal_CloakTime flies like an arrow- but fruit flies like a banana.
Sorry for my English, I do not always have a translation tool available. Thank you for your patience with our conversation and working towards our mutual understanding of the topic.3 -
LaintalAy✭✭✭✭✭Do you mean "Other Games" like Skyrim, which is medieval style fantasy also? @LaintalAy
No. I meant other games that are not TES.
Skyrim province was chosen over the other Tamriel areas as it fit the medieval mold more easily.
Game over, manHudson ~ Aliens ~ 19861 -
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It had very little impact on me or my peers' upbringing in the 1970s.I think you are not very familiar with how broad the fantasy genre is and where it comes from
The general appearance of the Morrowind world in 2002 was reminiscent of the Helliconia trilogy from the early 1980s.
Helliconia probably best demonstrates the 'genre' that I slot myself into.
I'm not sure why the cloaks and capes thing has come again right in after two weeks of complaints about performance, lags, disconnections and login queues. I hope you get cloaks or capes or whatever, but it will only make things worse.Game over, manHudson ~ Aliens ~ 19861 -
TheMajority✭✭✭✭✭
It had very little impact on me or my peers' upbringing in the 1970s.I think you are not very familiar with how broad the fantasy genre is and where it comes from
The general appearance of the Morrowind world in 2002 was reminiscent of the Helliconia trilogy from the early 1980s.
Helliconia probably best demonstrates the 'genre' that I slot myself into.
I'm not sure why the cloaks and capes thing has come again right in after two weeks of complaints about performance, lags, disconnections and login queues. I hope you get cloaks or capes or whatever, but it will only make things worse.
I read the Helliconia Trilogy when I was young, with a lot of H.G. Wells besides. I see where the interest in that comes from. But I think ESO is broadly inspired by the rise of a lot of 80's fantasy movies and books as well, and of course also Toliken, which while they have some of the medieval fantasy elements, they also have some very "unusual" to borrow your word "alien" world building elements in them too. So there was a blend of sci-fi and fantasy. I do cross over and like both.
(First ES game, Elder Scrolls Arena, 1994, had very typical fantasy novel-like cover for example)
I think the alien elements of ESO's world building are still present even with the medieval appearances. Just under the surfaces. If you see Morrowind as the first game, I can understand why a misinterpretation could occur and one would think its only this kind of alien world, but the world building was established before for both styles. (Necrom mentioned in the earlier games too)
I doubt we'll get them at all, people just like to talk about things they'd like to see happen. No harm in it honestly. Ultimately the dev will make the choice or not.
Time flies like an arrow- but fruit flies like a banana.
Sorry for my English, I do not always have a translation tool available. Thank you for your patience with our conversation and working towards our mutual understanding of the topic.1 -
Warhawke_80✭✭✭✭✭At the end of the day as everyone knows...The Elder Scrolls came from Ted Petersons and Julian Lefay's D&D game, it was about as Tolkienesque and Medieval Northern European as one could get, I had the pleasure of playing D&D with Ted at Gen-Con back when Dinosaur's ruled the earth...He is a brilliant world Builder, most of his source was from the current high fantasy fair of the day (Zeleanzy, Norton, Moorcock etc) Including Morrowind ...there is a reason Arena and Daggerfall are my favorite games
Without Peterson and Lefay ESO has missed more than a few steps IMO and lost a lot of it's culture. I would love to see a ESO where they at least produced.
Edited by Warhawke_80 on June 1, 2024 3:19AM““Elric knew. The sword told him, without words of any sort. Stormbringer needed to fight, for that was its reason for existence...”― Michael Moorcock, Elric of Melniboné1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The Cloaks you want, you can't get.
The Cloaks you can get, you don't want.
Just look at the Breton Hero costume.
Oh, there were no Cloaks at launch. Or in Beta. Or Alpha. Or in the Closed Psijiic Version, which looked really different than the release game.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"4 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The game does not handle the movement of cloth well. This is why the only cloak in the game is stuck to the back end of the costume it comes with. It is also why the devs will never add cloaks, as they would look awful.
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The game does not handle the movement of cloth well. This is why the only cloak in the game is stuck to the back end of the costume it comes with. It is also why the devs will never add cloaks, as they would look awful.
I figure that ESO could be made to handle cloth physics, but the real question in my mind is whether ESO could be ESO with cloth physics on the older hardware, like some of the older PCs, PS4, and XBox One. I mean, I assume that the hardware we play on is capable of doing realistic cloth movement, but can that hardware do it at scale in the ESO MMO? Would Cyrodiil come to a stop while the older hardware flaps the cloaks, or would they have to disable it in places where time critical player response is required and players would see stiff cardboard behind every player wearing a cloak?
In the end, I agree that ZOS will never do player cloaks. As Nestor said, what people want, they can't have, and what people can get, they won't want.
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JustLovely✭✭✭✭✭TheMajority wrote: »
It had very little impact on me or my peers' upbringing in the 1970s.I think you are not very familiar with how broad the fantasy genre is and where it comes from
The general appearance of the Morrowind world in 2002 was reminiscent of the Helliconia trilogy from the early 1980s.
Helliconia probably best demonstrates the 'genre' that I slot myself into.
I'm not sure why the cloaks and capes thing has come again right in after two weeks of complaints about performance, lags, disconnections and login queues. I hope you get cloaks or capes or whatever, but it will only make things worse.
I read the Helliconia Trilogy when I was young, with a lot of H.G. Wells besides. I see where the interest in that comes from. But I think ESO is broadly inspired by the rise of a lot of 80's fantasy movies and books as well, and of course also Toliken, which while they have some of the medieval fantasy elements, they also have some very "unusual" to borrow your word "alien" world building elements in them too. So there was a blend of sci-fi and fantasy. I do cross over and like both.
(First ES game, Elder Scrolls Arena, 1994, had very typical fantasy novel-like cover for example)
I think the alien elements of ESO's world building are still present even with the medieval appearances. Just under the surfaces. If you see Morrowind as the first game, I can understand why a misinterpretation could occur and one would think its only this kind of alien world, but the world building was established before for both styles. (Necrom mentioned in the earlier games too)
I doubt we'll get them at all, people just like to talk about things they'd like to see happen. No harm in it honestly. Ultimately the dev will make the choice or not.
The devs "borrow" heavily from Game of Thrones too.2 -
TheMajority✭✭✭✭✭JustLovely wrote: »TheMajority wrote: »
It had very little impact on me or my peers' upbringing in the 1970s.I think you are not very familiar with how broad the fantasy genre is and where it comes from
The general appearance of the Morrowind world in 2002 was reminiscent of the Helliconia trilogy from the early 1980s.
Helliconia probably best demonstrates the 'genre' that I slot myself into.
I'm not sure why the cloaks and capes thing has come again right in after two weeks of complaints about performance, lags, disconnections and login queues. I hope you get cloaks or capes or whatever, but it will only make things worse.
I read the Helliconia Trilogy when I was young, with a lot of H.G. Wells besides. I see where the interest in that comes from. But I think ESO is broadly inspired by the rise of a lot of 80's fantasy movies and books as well, and of course also Toliken, which while they have some of the medieval fantasy elements, they also have some very "unusual" to borrow your word "alien" world building elements in them too. So there was a blend of sci-fi and fantasy. I do cross over and like both.
(First ES game, Elder Scrolls Arena, 1994, had very typical fantasy novel-like cover for example)
I think the alien elements of ESO's world building are still present even with the medieval appearances. Just under the surfaces. If you see Morrowind as the first game, I can understand why a misinterpretation could occur and one would think its only this kind of alien world, but the world building was established before for both styles. (Necrom mentioned in the earlier games too)
I doubt we'll get them at all, people just like to talk about things they'd like to see happen. No harm in it honestly. Ultimately the dev will make the choice or not.
The devs "borrow" heavily from Game of Thrones too.
Game of thrones borrows heavily from other things too, and ain't all too original nor is it exactly the pinnacle of good fantasy. So not really borrowing from GoT since GoT obtained it from someone else first, lol.Time flies like an arrow- but fruit flies like a banana.
Sorry for my English, I do not always have a translation tool available. Thank you for your patience with our conversation and working towards our mutual understanding of the topic.1 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The game does not handle the movement of cloth well. This is why the only cloak in the game is stuck to the back end of the costume it comes with. It is also why the devs will never add cloaks, as they would look awful.
I figure that ESO could be made to handle cloth physics, but the real question in my mind is whether ESO could be ESO with cloth physics on the older hardware, like some of the older PCs, PS4, and XBox One. I mean, I assume that the hardware we play on is capable of doing realistic cloth movement, but can that hardware do it at scale in the ESO MMO? Would Cyrodiil come to a stop while the older hardware flaps the cloaks, or would they have to disable it in places where time critical player response is required and players would see stiff cardboard behind every player wearing a cloak?
In the end, I agree that ZOS will never do player cloaks. As Nestor said, what people want, they can't have, and what people can get, they won't want.
Working on older PCs is not the issue. SWTOR's cloth physics work very well and can be played on potatoes. It is also why we have various settings to help the game work better on older machines.
The answer is an unequivocal yes on the point that ESO could be made to handle cloth physics. Is it worth the work to make it happen? The devs have stated the engine cannot handle it. It is a major task to rework the game to a new engine. So, the answer is likely a very firm no.
To support my comment I was not able to find a comment directly attributed to the devs. However, I did find a video from 2014 from @Nefas , a very respected ESO player, who commented on this subject since capes were part of the early development in the game but did not make it to the final release. The link stars the video just before Nefas comments on this.
https://youtu.be/3KbxJeMCzoU?t=17
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✭TheMajority wrote: »JustLovely wrote: »TheMajority wrote: »
It had very little impact on me or my peers' upbringing in the 1970s.I think you are not very familiar with how broad the fantasy genre is and where it comes from
The general appearance of the Morrowind world in 2002 was reminiscent of the Helliconia trilogy from the early 1980s.
Helliconia probably best demonstrates the 'genre' that I slot myself into.
I'm not sure why the cloaks and capes thing has come again right in after two weeks of complaints about performance, lags, disconnections and login queues. I hope you get cloaks or capes or whatever, but it will only make things worse.
I read the Helliconia Trilogy when I was young, with a lot of H.G. Wells besides. I see where the interest in that comes from. But I think ESO is broadly inspired by the rise of a lot of 80's fantasy movies and books as well, and of course also Toliken, which while they have some of the medieval fantasy elements, they also have some very "unusual" to borrow your word "alien" world building elements in them too. So there was a blend of sci-fi and fantasy. I do cross over and like both.
(First ES game, Elder Scrolls Arena, 1994, had very typical fantasy novel-like cover for example)
I think the alien elements of ESO's world building are still present even with the medieval appearances. Just under the surfaces. If you see Morrowind as the first game, I can understand why a misinterpretation could occur and one would think its only this kind of alien world, but the world building was established before for both styles. (Necrom mentioned in the earlier games too)
I doubt we'll get them at all, people just like to talk about things they'd like to see happen. No harm in it honestly. Ultimately the dev will make the choice or not.
The devs "borrow" heavily from Game of Thrones too.
Game of thrones borrows heavily from other things too, and ain't all too original nor is it exactly the pinnacle of good fantasy. So not really borrowing from GoT since GoT obtained it from someone else first, lol.
What hasn't been done by someone else first? There is a reason most people listen to music that is 20-50 years old now.
Edited by ProudMary on June 2, 2024 1:59AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TheMajority wrote: »JustLovely wrote: »TheMajority wrote: »
It had very little impact on me or my peers' upbringing in the 1970s.I think you are not very familiar with how broad the fantasy genre is and where it comes from
The general appearance of the Morrowind world in 2002 was reminiscent of the Helliconia trilogy from the early 1980s.
Helliconia probably best demonstrates the 'genre' that I slot myself into.
I'm not sure why the cloaks and capes thing has come again right in after two weeks of complaints about performance, lags, disconnections and login queues. I hope you get cloaks or capes or whatever, but it will only make things worse.
I read the Helliconia Trilogy when I was young, with a lot of H.G. Wells besides. I see where the interest in that comes from. But I think ESO is broadly inspired by the rise of a lot of 80's fantasy movies and books as well, and of course also Toliken, which while they have some of the medieval fantasy elements, they also have some very "unusual" to borrow your word "alien" world building elements in them too. So there was a blend of sci-fi and fantasy. I do cross over and like both.
(First ES game, Elder Scrolls Arena, 1994, had very typical fantasy novel-like cover for example)
I think the alien elements of ESO's world building are still present even with the medieval appearances. Just under the surfaces. If you see Morrowind as the first game, I can understand why a misinterpretation could occur and one would think its only this kind of alien world, but the world building was established before for both styles. (Necrom mentioned in the earlier games too)
I doubt we'll get them at all, people just like to talk about things they'd like to see happen. No harm in it honestly. Ultimately the dev will make the choice or not.
The devs "borrow" heavily from Game of Thrones too.
Game of thrones borrows heavily from other things too, and ain't all too original nor is it exactly the pinnacle of good fantasy. So not really borrowing from GoT since GoT obtained it from someone else first, lol.
What hasn't been done by someone else first? There is a reason most people listen to music that is 20-50 years old now.
Yes. I've been reading fantasy and sci fi since the late 50s. Allowing for antiquated ideas of "modern" tech, as well as other antique notions, there really is nothing much new when it comes to fiction. My acquaintance with fiction actually begins with Richard Wagner and the Brothers Grimm. Oh.... and Richard Burton's (unexpurgated) 1000 Nights and a Night (that was in 6th grade.... and yes, my mother would have had a cat....)______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The answer is an unequivocal yes on the point that ESO could be made to handle cloth physics. Is it worth the work to make it happen? The devs have stated the engine cannot handle it. It is a major task to rework the game to a new engine. So, the answer is likely a very firm no.
My main comment is that does not seem to be so much about what the "engine" cannot do, and more about what it currently does. We have seen them extend the "engine" (server and client) more than once over the years. Big and small changes.
My feeling is that if they want the engine to do something bad enough, it will be added to the engine.
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✭As long as they look like real capes/cloaks and not like a towel attached to our backs. I hate that so much in WoW that I almost never use a cape, they look plain stupid, just a strip of cloth hanging off the back of your collar.The purpose of art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls. ~Pablo Picasso0 -
TheMajority✭✭✭✭✭TheMajority wrote: »JustLovely wrote: »TheMajority wrote: »
It had very little impact on me or my peers' upbringing in the 1970s.I think you are not very familiar with how broad the fantasy genre is and where it comes from
The general appearance of the Morrowind world in 2002 was reminiscent of the Helliconia trilogy from the early 1980s.
Helliconia probably best demonstrates the 'genre' that I slot myself into.
I'm not sure why the cloaks and capes thing has come again right in after two weeks of complaints about performance, lags, disconnections and login queues. I hope you get cloaks or capes or whatever, but it will only make things worse.
I read the Helliconia Trilogy when I was young, with a lot of H.G. Wells besides. I see where the interest in that comes from. But I think ESO is broadly inspired by the rise of a lot of 80's fantasy movies and books as well, and of course also Toliken, which while they have some of the medieval fantasy elements, they also have some very "unusual" to borrow your word "alien" world building elements in them too. So there was a blend of sci-fi and fantasy. I do cross over and like both.
(First ES game, Elder Scrolls Arena, 1994, had very typical fantasy novel-like cover for example)
I think the alien elements of ESO's world building are still present even with the medieval appearances. Just under the surfaces. If you see Morrowind as the first game, I can understand why a misinterpretation could occur and one would think its only this kind of alien world, but the world building was established before for both styles. (Necrom mentioned in the earlier games too)
I doubt we'll get them at all, people just like to talk about things they'd like to see happen. No harm in it honestly. Ultimately the dev will make the choice or not.
The devs "borrow" heavily from Game of Thrones too.
Game of thrones borrows heavily from other things too, and ain't all too original nor is it exactly the pinnacle of good fantasy. So not really borrowing from GoT since GoT obtained it from someone else first, lol.
What hasn't been done by someone else first? There is a reason most people listen to music that is 20-50 years old now.
thats my point ain't nothing original so saying ZOS "borrowed" from GOT makes no sense cause GOT borrowed from everyone and their horse first
its just the nature of storytelling, authors put a new spin on things each time an idea passes through hands. no shame in it. just think its weird that people get hung up on it instead of just enjoying itTime flies like an arrow- but fruit flies like a banana.
Sorry for my English, I do not always have a translation tool available. Thank you for your patience with our conversation and working towards our mutual understanding of the topic.1 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The answer is an unequivocal yes on the point that ESO could be made to handle cloth physics. Is it worth the work to make it happen? The devs have stated the engine cannot handle it. It is a major task to rework the game to a new engine. So, the answer is likely a very firm no.
My main comment is that does not seem to be so much about what the "engine" cannot do, and more about what it currently does. We have seen them extend the "engine" (server and client) more than once over the years. Big and small changes.
My feeling is that if they want the engine to do something bad enough, it will be added to the engine.The answer is an unequivocal yes on the point that ESO could be made to handle cloth physics. Is it worth the work to make it happen? The devs have stated the engine cannot handle it. It is a major task to rework the game to a new engine. So, the answer is likely a very firm no.
My main comment is that does not seem to be so much about what the "engine" cannot do, and more about what it currently does. We have seen them extend the "engine" (server and client) more than once over the years. Big and small changes.
My feeling is that if they want the engine to do something bad enough, it will be added to the engine.
What changes have they made to the engine to allow them to do something that was a limitation of the engine since the game was launched?
I cannot think of anything I have seen or even heard of. It is one of the most complex and expensive things that can be done to a game. That is not a feeling.
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