Complete one quest in Coldharbour -- but not a daily!

CoronHR

endeavour description doesn't say that a daily quest doesn't count. that's five minutes of my time, down the drain. i'll never get it back

Sarannah

Are there even (daily) quests in coldharbour?

I have 100% completed that zone on all 20 of my characters, and as far as I know there aren't any dailies there. Seems like this endeavour is impossible to complete.

PS: Did manage to complete three daily endeavours anyways.

Danikat

I didn't even notice that was an option.

Since they started giving more seals for certain endeavours I now always check for those ones and make sure to do them first, and today it's Place 7 furnishings, so I did that. Then I noticed harvesting resources and completing a survey were both on the list and those obviously go together very well (yes you need another 4 materials after the survey, but that's not much) so I did them as well.

I didn't really read the other two beyond spotting that they specify an area so they're not as convenient.

I agree it's not good to have an endeavour some players are unable to complete though (and like Sarannah I don't think there are any Coldharbour dailies), even if it's only 1 of 5 options and you only need to complete 3, because it means all those players only have a choice of 4 instead of 5.

At least it's not the one that awards bonus seals.

redlink1979

Sarannah wrote: »

Are there even (daily) quests in coldharbour? (...)

No. OP should be refering to do crafting daily writs in Coldharbour.

vsrs_au

Yes, that daily endeavour surprised me. I was actually doing one of the main (aka planemeld) quests on an alt character, then after finishing the quest, saw the message about the endeavour. It's oddly specific for an endeavour, and also doesn't fit the monthly theme.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Saw this and I agree it’s odd. 🫤 Are they planning to add dailies to Coldharbour in the future and jumped the gun with the Endeavor? In addition to older players being locked out of it, I expect to see a lot of newbies asking for a port because they don’t have the zone unlocked.

DragonRacer

Yes, this seemed very oddly specific. I have one main who has already done all the quests (Coldharbour and beyond) and the others are nowhere close to the Coldharbour storyline as I haven't really been repeating quests on them so much as just making different builds for endgame group content, but fortunately there are other easily doable endeavors to hit 3 today.

But it was weird seeing that one. What's next, complete a main storyline quest in Greenshade or something?

Tallon_IV

Very strange endeavor. Luckily there's 3 others that are easy because I can't be bothered going and doing a side-quest there on an alt lol

Ragnork

Came in to make a post on the same subject. Full round of crafting writs completed in Cold Harbour, the only "quest" available to me in Coldharbour and did not count. As already mentioned there were other options so not a big deal overall, just odd.

Danikat

Do crafting writs normally count for these sorts of things?

Like when there's an event that gives event tickets or extra loot boxes for doing daily quests in a specific map, can you just go there and do crafting writs to qualify?

Syldras

Danikat wrote: »

Do crafting writs normally count for these sorts of things?
Like when there's an event that gives event tickets or extra loot boxes for doing daily quests in a specific map, can you just go there and do crafting writs to qualify?

As far as I know, it does not.

CoronHR

yeah it just says 'Complete 1 quest in Coldharbour.' maybe the daily quests aren't considered 'quests'. the daily quests i'm referring to are the daily crafting writs. there aren't any other daily quests in coldharbour. or is a daily crafting writ not even considered a quest? i just think if there's an arrow over it, it's a quest, but anyway. i'm not even upset

vsrs_au

CoronHR wrote: »

yeah it just says 'Complete 1 quest in Coldharbour.' maybe the daily quests aren't considered 'quests'. the daily quests i'm referring to are the daily crafting writs. there aren't any other daily quests in coldharbour. or is a daily crafting writ not even considered a quest? i just think if there's an arrow over it, it's a quest, but anyway. i'm not even upset

Yes, the writs are considered quests, and some "complete x quests" endeavours are completed just by doing writs. But the endeavours are inconsistent, and today's coldharbour quest endeavour is an example of that inconsistency.

Syldras

vsrs_au wrote: »

Yes, the writs are considered quests, and some "complete x quests" endeavours are completed just by doing writs. But the endeavours are inconsistent, and today's coldharbour quest endeavour is an example of that inconsistency.

They count when it's a general "Complete x quests" endeavor, but not when it's an endeavor linked to a specific place. Doesn't work for events limited to a special zone either, btw.

CoronHR

the endeavour should say 'Complete 1 quest in Coldharbour, but by 'quest' we mean like a delve quest, or a zone quest, not a daily crafting writ quest, and while we may or may not realise that a large portion of the player has probably done all the Coldharbour quests, well, whatever ... we're tired of typing this, so just do the quest. Or don't. We don't care.'

too long?

cyclonus11

I don't think they count since they can be accepted and turned in anywhere that crafting dailies can be turned in. They are multi-zone quests, rather than Coldharbour quests.

Syldras

CoronHR wrote: »

the endeavour should say 'Complete 1 quest in Coldharbour, but by 'quest' we mean like a delve quest, or a zone quest, not a daily crafting writ quest, and while we may or may not realise that a large portion of the player has probably done all the Coldharbour quests, well, whatever ... we're tired of typing this, so just do the quest. Or don't. We don't care.'
too long?

"Complete one non-repeatable quest in Coldharbour."
"Complete one zone quest in Coldharbour."

I still think it's a bad decision to be so specific that a big portion of the playerbase can't do this task because they have no quest left to do in that zone.

spartaxoxo

Zones without repeatable shouldn't get this endeavor imo. But especially Cold harbour due to it's narrative importance and that it can't be self accessed by everyone who does have quests there. There are players that would need a taxi because they haven't gotten to that part of the story.

tomofhyrule

Syldras wrote: »

CoronHR wrote: »

the endeavour should say 'Complete 1 quest in Coldharbour, but by 'quest' we mean like a delve quest, or a zone quest, not a daily crafting writ quest, and while we may or may not realise that a large portion of the player has probably done all the Coldharbour quests, well, whatever ... we're tired of typing this, so just do the quest. Or don't. We don't care.'
too long?

"Complete one non-repeatable quest in Coldharbour."
"Complete one zone quest in Coldharbour."

I still think it's a bad decision to be so specific that a big portion of the playerbase can't do this task because they have no quest left to do in that zone.

Are there really that many people who have done 20+ characters all the way through all Coldharbour quests?

I do agree that it's odd to have a zone-specific quest endeavor for a zone with no dailies, but I can't imagine that people with multiple characters have done every single Coldharbour quest on every single one of their characters. Particularly considering the standard forum complaint of "can quest progress be shared because I can't be bothered to do quests on more than one character!"

I got mine an an alt today. And had I been in the (unlikely) circumstance of having finished Coldharbour on all of my alts, then fortunately there are four other endeavors to get... and since we're supposed to target the Furnishings one first, that means the Survey and 'Collect Nodes' ones almost do themselves together.

LaintalAy

Was this a pumpkin-related quest?

ArchangelIsraphel

Syldras wrote: »

CoronHR wrote: »

the endeavour should say 'Complete 1 quest in Coldharbour, but by 'quest' we mean like a delve quest, or a zone quest, not a daily crafting writ quest, and while we may or may not realise that a large portion of the player has probably done all the Coldharbour quests, well, whatever ... we're tired of typing this, so just do the quest. Or don't. We don't care.'
too long?

"Complete one non-repeatable quest in Coldharbour."
"Complete one zone quest in Coldharbour."

I still think it's a bad decision to be so specific that a big portion of the playerbase can't do this task because they have no quest left to do in that zone.

Agreed. Especially since the Coldharbour questline is something a lot of players are going to do on their characters first (even on alts) so for those players, this endeavor basically requires the purchase of a character slot and the creation of a new character.

That is, if they even have a free character slot left. For those who have a full account, where all of the characters have done Coldharbour, this endeavor is basically impossible.

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Syldras wrote: »

CoronHR wrote: »

the endeavour should say 'Complete 1 quest in Coldharbour, but by 'quest' we mean like a delve quest, or a zone quest, not a daily crafting writ quest, and while we may or may not realise that a large portion of the player has probably done all the Coldharbour quests, well, whatever ... we're tired of typing this, so just do the quest. Or don't. We don't care.'
too long?

"Complete one non-repeatable quest in Coldharbour."
"Complete one zone quest in Coldharbour."

I still think it's a bad decision to be so specific that a big portion of the playerbase can't do this task because they have no quest left to do in that zone.

Are there really that many people who have done 20+ characters all the way through all Coldharbour quests?

I do agree that it's odd to have a zone-specific quest endeavor for a zone with no dailies, but I can't imagine that people with multiple characters have done every single Coldharbour quest on every single one of their characters. Particularly considering the standard forum complaint of "can quest progress be shared because I can't be bothered to do quests on more than one character!"

I got mine an an alt today. And had I been in the (unlikely) circumstance of having finished Coldharbour on all of my alts, then fortunately there are four other endeavors to get... and since we're supposed to target the Furnishings one first, that means the Survey and 'Collect Nodes' ones almost do themselves together.

There could be, and even if it's probably rare, the possibility that a player would be locked out should have been considered by the developers when designing new endeavors.

They should also be thinking of players who only play with one character, and only ever want one character. From what I've seen, that's actually a fairly common play style.

Syldras

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Are there really that many people who have done 20+ characters all the way through all Coldharbour quests?

No, but I think creating a new character just to have him taxi'ed to Coldharbour for a daily endeavor is a bit much of a task for earning just a few seals. Also, not 20, but "only" 10 or 11 characters are free, I think?

Also, this:

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Zones without repeatable shouldn't get this endeavor imo. But especially Cold harbour due to it's narrative importance and that it can't be self accessed by everyone who does have quests there. There are players that would need a taxi because they haven't gotten to that part of the story.

Not only the taxi'ing might be a hassle, but I don't think it's a good choice narration-wise. Coldharbour used to be the climax of a long story, which totally gets lost if you just casually go there anytime. Which was already ruined a bit by having the luxury furnisher there (so as someone into housing you "have to" go there regularly, whether it's the right time in your story or not), although in that case, it could still be argued that his wares are only meant for champions who have already succeeded in whole Tamriel anyway.

tomofhyrule

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Syldras wrote: »

CoronHR wrote: »

the endeavour should say 'Complete 1 quest in Coldharbour, but by 'quest' we mean like a delve quest, or a zone quest, not a daily crafting writ quest, and while we may or may not realise that a large portion of the player has probably done all the Coldharbour quests, well, whatever ... we're tired of typing this, so just do the quest. Or don't. We don't care.'
too long?

"Complete one non-repeatable quest in Coldharbour."
"Complete one zone quest in Coldharbour."

I still think it's a bad decision to be so specific that a big portion of the playerbase can't do this task because they have no quest left to do in that zone.

Are there really that many people who have done 20+ characters all the way through all Coldharbour quests?

I do agree that it's odd to have a zone-specific quest endeavor for a zone with no dailies, but I can't imagine that people with multiple characters have done every single Coldharbour quest on every single one of their characters. Particularly considering the standard forum complaint of "can quest progress be shared because I can't be bothered to do quests on more than one character!"

I got mine an an alt today. And had I been in the (unlikely) circumstance of having finished Coldharbour on all of my alts, then fortunately there are four other endeavors to get... and since we're supposed to target the Furnishings one first, that means the Survey and 'Collect Nodes' ones almost do themselves together.

There could be, and even if it's probably rare, the possibility that a player would be locked out should have been considered by the developers when designing new endeavors.

They should also be thinking of players who only play with one character, and only ever want one character. From what I've seen, that's actually a fairly common play style.

Again, I do agree it's an odd choice. But they've done weirder - this one is perfectly ignorable if someone is unable to do it.

However, we have gotten endeavors for "Do a Heist" or "Do a Black Sacrament," both of which are also locked behind a quest series, and there are many people who dislike those because they don't have the requisite DLC or choose not to play an evil character. And last month, those specific endeavors were actually given bonus rewards as well, meaning that players without the necessary DLC or who were hardcore RPers were shut out of getting bonus seals.

Personally, I'd take "do a Coldharbour quest" over "Do a Black Sacrament" in the ease-of-completion department.

SeaGtGruff

Fortunately, I have several alts who haven't done the Coldharbour quests yet. But do you need to complete the Main Quest for your alliance before Coldharbour opens up, or can you go there at any time and start doing some of the zone quests?

LaintalAy

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Fortunately, I have several alts who haven't done the Coldharbour quests yet. But do you need to complete the Main Quest for your alliance before Coldharbour opens up, or can you go there at any time and start doing some of the zone quests?

no.

jcaceresw

@ZOS_Kevin I already sent an in game support ticket about this issue.

VisitHammerfell

They should never have non-repeatable quests as an endeavor. My main completed all of the Harborage and Coldharbour and do not want to quest out of order on another character.
With "play how you want" it shouldn't refer to 'bring your Skyrim stealth archer build to vDSR HM' but it should refer to something like you should never be forced to quest out of chronological order especially for something so important
My advice though for people
Do a meaningless delve fetch quest if you are able to get a teleport there

SilverBride

I wondered about this endeavor, too because all of my characters have done every quest in Coldharbour. If there are no dailies then what are we supposed to do?

Making these specific to any particular zone is a bad idea unless daily quests are included.

Syldras

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Again, I do agree it's an odd choice. But they've done weirder - this one is perfectly ignorable if someone is unable to do it.
However, we have gotten endeavors for "Do a Heist" or "Do a Black Sacrament," both of which are also locked behind a quest series, and there are many people who dislike those because they don't have the requisite DLC or choose not to play an evil character. And last month, those specific endeavors were actually given bonus rewards as well, meaning that players without the necessary DLC or who were hardcore RPers were shut out of getting bonus seals.
Personally, I'd take "do a Coldharbour quest" over "Do a Black Sacrament" in the ease-of-completion department.

I know that what was basically a crime theme month was unfortunate for people who don't play any criminal characters. Housing month was easier because you could just use the free house we got this month and then place a few collection furnishings, even if it's just pets or mounts. You didn't even need 35 different ones for the weekly, because removing a furnishing and placing it again would count as the next placed item (so strictly seen, you just need to own 1 item and you could do this task). If they ever do a PvP or trial theme month - well... I'd rather not think about it

I think we can agree that it would be nice if ZOS would be so considerate that at least 3 daily endeavors could be done without DLC or questline restrictions. They could even offer 6 or 7 different ones each day so there's more variety.

DenverRalphy

SilverBride wrote: »

I wondered about this endeavor, too because all of my characters have done every quest in Coldharbour. If there are no dailies then what are we supposed to do?

Harvest 10 resource nodes. Place 7 furnishings. Complete 1 Survey Report. Or defeat 1 Patrollig Horror if PvP is your bag.

SeaGtGruff

I don't see it as being as terribly bad as some of you, given that players have four other endeavors to choose from and can only complete three of them, anyway. But something repeatable like "Kill a group boss in Coldharbour," "Kill a delve boss in Coldharbour," or "Complete a public dungeon group event in Coldharbour" would have been better.