Deathknight themed skill styles pls!!!

fenn1539 · May 22

i would LOVE so much if abilities like lords sacrifical blastbones or flame skull or ESPECIALLY if hungry scythe got skill styles that would make the flame skull look actually like a large green ball of hellfire orb and if they lords sacrifical blastbones would be wreathed in green flames before wreathing YOU in said flames especially with the fun thought of using the pirate skeleton mask and just seeng a ghost rider-esque mf with a green flaming skull for a head and especailly hungry scythe being turned into an ability that uses your current weapon and englufs in in green flames before you swing it into a horde of enemies like a supped up version of the green flame blade cantrip from D&D!

Yamenstein · May 23

Coming to a crown store near you 2025

fenn1539 · May 23

Yamenstein wrote: »

Coming to a crown store near you 2025

yea and? like dont get me wrong i would prefer all this *** be earnable but i would rather have it than not have it at all.

TaSheen · May 23

If you're referring to death knights as in WoW.... no thank you. They weren't fun in that game, and they really might not fit here, and would likely not be fun here either.

fenn1539 · May 24

TaSheen wrote: »

If you're referring to death knights as in WoW.... no thank you. They weren't fun in that game, and they really might not fit here, and would likely not be fun here either.

no, do you know ANYTHING about dnd lore? im literally talking about the green flames that burn deathknights to bones and turn them into deathknights in dnd AND mind you if you actually woulda bothered to read the damn post, its just me saying that the SKILL STYLES they are introducing should give the option to have some of the necro abilites be flavored in that green deathknight flame of dnd cause necro tanks basically are the peak of being themed on the general concept of a deathknight so it would be fun to see them add some styles for that.

Araneae6537 · May 24

What is a deathknight? I don’t remember that from TES but there’s a lot of lore I’m not familiar with. Personally, I think throwing “flaming skulls” is pretty silly and doesn’t fit an ESO necromancer — maybe a blue one of magic that did cold-fire or oblivion damage? I think some necromantic bosses have auch an ability. I just think necro needs better minions and should have a proper bone colossus as an ultimate rather than that weird thing popping up to pound the group and obscure the tank’s view…

fenn1539 · May 24

Araneae6537 wrote: »

What is a deathknight? I don’t remember that from TES but there’s a lot of lore I’m not familiar with. Personally, I think throwing “flaming skulls” is pretty silly and doesn’t fit an ESO necromancer — maybe a blue one of magic that did cold-fire or oblivion damage? I think some necromantic bosses have auch an ability. I just think necro needs better minions and should have a proper bone colossus as an ultimate rather than that weird thing popping up to pound the group and obscure the tank’s view…

im speaking in reference to D&D's take on the concept of a death knight with in general, deathknights across media are undead paladins of a sort who have been corrupted by the necromantic energies that created them and are basically akin to the general that you would see at the head of a lich's army commanding and even creating undead as they march forth in the name of their dark master that either through choice or some form of force with that usually being magical, they must march forward in their neverending campaign against life.

now as for the specific concept im talking about, deathknights in D&D CAN be found at the head of necromancers armies but usually head up their own army and are created when either a paladin serving a god or even a fiend does something so horrendous and offensive to break the sacred oath they swore to earn their powers OR the fiend has decided to punish the paladin for failing to be a good enough servant, that god or fiend performs a ritual that burns away all of the flesh of the paladin in a very specific green flame that reduces them to skeletons in charred armor before they than rise again but with all inhibitions removed and depdning on the specific case, almost always a hatred for literally ALL life even if they were typically a good person in life and worse, they are fully concious of everything but almost just have to watch as their body acts on whatever immedeate impulse the would have with no inhibitions AND that hatred for life with to some degree, this is a test to see their true character but also a punishment to force them to either become the thing they hate or make them destroy all that they loved and stood for. Theres also a lot more lore like the fact that their souls are bound to their blade and that unlike a liches phlactery where if you destroy that, the lich dies or at least can never revive if killed again, their sword despite being the vessel of their soul is unable to ever be truly destroyed or taken from the death knight with if you break their sword, they can instantlly and fully repair it with a touch and if you take it you succumb to an all consuming fear and the death knight succumbs to a all consuming need to reclaim their sword and subsequently, their soul and also due to their nature, even if you do kill a death knight for good, if the god or fiend that brought them back deems it fit, they can ressurect them instantly.

all in all i just want to have some fun with the skill styles to make certain builds more thematic and fun to rp like a deathknight build for example i have going ;D

OtarTheMad · May 24

https://youtube.com/shorts/FScccwP0VgE?si=TGZOcvDTBvkJGn38

Is this what you’re talking about? I mean that’s interesting.

fenn1539 · May 24

OtarTheMad wrote: »

https://youtube.com/shorts/FScccwP0VgE?si=TGZOcvDTBvkJGn38

Is this what you’re talking about? I mean that’s interesting.

yup and this video is one i love for how it gets into the story of a death knight who had fallen from grace and had once been a honorable, powerful, and very kind and loving paladin with a true band of the hawk style group behind him who would follow him to the gates of hell if he asked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDpu-MU3czU

honestly this is a pretty good video and worth a watch anyways but it also is basically the peak of the example of what im basing my deathknight on but a version that was redeemed even if they still walk as an undead in their charred black armor with at least their flesh and mind fully returned to them as they walk forward still trying to attone in THEIR OWN eyes for their transgression that they unlike their god believe they still must attone for....

TaSheen · May 24

fenn1539 wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

If you're referring to death knights as in WoW.... no thank you. They weren't fun in that game, and they really might not fit here, and would likely not be fun here either.

no, do you know ANYTHING about dnd lore? im literally talking about the green flames that burn deathknights to bones and turn them into deathknights in dnd AND mind you if you actually woulda bothered to read the damn post, its just me saying that the SKILL STYLES they are introducing should give the option to have some of the necro abilites be flavored in that green deathknight flame of dnd cause necro tanks basically are the peak of being themed on the general concept of a deathknight so it would be fun to see them add some styles for that.

I was GM'ing AD&D in the mid 1970s. I don't recall anything about death knights. Only death knights I've ever run across are in WoW, and as I said, they weren't fun there. From your description, they don't sound any more fun to me than necromancer does. And I did read your "damn" post - I was then and still remain unimpressed.

TES is a VERY long way from any D&D roots....

TaSheen · May 24

I'm a 76 year old woman thank you. And if you post in a public forum, you're going to find not everyone agrees with your ideas.

Have a nice day.

katanagirl1 · May 26

D&D is content that is copyrighted. I don’t think you will see that implementation here, if it is a thing. It’s been decades since I played tabletop games so I’m not quite up to speed on that.

Dragonnord · May 26

This is The Elder Scrolls Online, this is not World of Warcraft, and in The Elder Scrolls Online there are no Deathknights.

It's like going to World of Warcraft and asking the Devs to create stuff that looks like TESO Dragonknights.

GeneralGrundmann · May 26

Seriously, why do you want a D&D lore-class character in TESO? It does not belong here. It doesn't fit within the ESO universe.

But..., with scribing, you can at least alter the colour of (some) skill effects, perhaps even change it to green.

Sakiri · May 26

TaSheen wrote: »

fenn1539 wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

If you're referring to death knights as in WoW.... no thank you. They weren't fun in that game, and they really might not fit here, and would likely not be fun here either.

no, do you know ANYTHING about dnd lore? im literally talking about the green flames that burn deathknights to bones and turn them into deathknights in dnd AND mind you if you actually woulda bothered to read the damn post, its just me saying that the SKILL STYLES they are introducing should give the option to have some of the necro abilites be flavored in that green deathknight flame of dnd cause necro tanks basically are the peak of being themed on the general concept of a deathknight so it would be fun to see them add some styles for that.

I was GM'ing AD&D in the mid 1970s. I don't recall anything about death knights. Only death knights I've ever run across are in WoW, and as I said, they weren't fun there. From your description, they don't sound any more fun to me than necromancer does. And I did read your "damn" post - I was then and still remain unimpressed.

TES is a VERY long way from any D&D roots....

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Death_knight

Sakiri · May 26

katanagirl1 wrote: »

D&D is content that is copyrighted. I don’t think you will see that implementation here, if it is a thing. It’s been decades since I played tabletop games so I’m not quite up to speed on that.

Until somewhat recently the 3.5 system was pretty much open for anyone to use.

Death knights, antipaladin, unholy necromantic knights exist in most major fantasy settings.

I like it to a necro in heavy armor here, though.

TaSheen · May 26

Interesting. I don't remember them from the books I had at the time. *shrug*

Dragonnord · May 26

TaSheen wrote: »

As someone remarked earlier, I was using only 2E, and writing my own scenarios. Had there been death knights in the ref books I was using, I'm sure the most obnoxious of the kids would have insisted on playing one. He didn't, so they may have been added later, after I quit GMing when the kids went away to college. I don't know or care at this point - I no longer have any interest in AD&D.

Question in Reddit from only 9 months ago.

Reddit · r/3d6
10+ comments · 9 months ago
Is there any way to make a wow death knight in dnd? : r/3d6
My brother wants to make what we call an unholy death knight who specializes in magic related to necromancy...

Definitely there wasn't and there isn't a Deathknight class in D&D.

OP knew Deathknights are from WoW and tried to paint it as they are from D&D.

Sakiri · May 26

Dragonnord wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

As someone remarked earlier, I was using only 2E, and writing my own scenarios. Had there been death knights in the ref books I was using, I'm sure the most obnoxious of the kids would have insisted on playing one. He didn't, so they may have been added later, after I quit GMing when the kids went away to college. I don't know or care at this point - I no longer have any interest in AD&D.

Question in Reddit from only 9 months ago.

Reddit · r/3d6
10+ comments · 9 months ago
Is there any way to make a wow death knight in dnd? : r/3d6
My brother wants to make what we call an unholy death knight who specializes in magic related to necromancy...

Definitely there wasn't and there isn't a Deathknight class in D&D.

OP knew Deathknight are from WoW and tried to paint it as they are from D&D.

I just linked the forgotten realms wiki page.

I'm pretty sure it's an npc class designed for enemies, not players. But it exists.

Sakiri · May 26

https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Death_Knight_(5e_Class)

Apparently playable in 5e st least.

Dragonnord · May 26

Sakiri wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

As someone remarked earlier, I was using only 2E, and writing my own scenarios. Had there been death knights in the ref books I was using, I'm sure the most obnoxious of the kids would have insisted on playing one. He didn't, so they may have been added later, after I quit GMing when the kids went away to college. I don't know or care at this point - I no longer have any interest in AD&D.

Question in Reddit from only 9 months ago.

Reddit · r/3d6
10+ comments · 9 months ago
Is there any way to make a wow death knight in dnd? : r/3d6
My brother wants to make what we call an unholy death knight who specializes in magic related to necromancy...

Definitely there wasn't and there isn't a Deathknight class in D&D.

OP knew Deathknight are from WoW and tried to paint it as they are from D&D.

I just linked the forgotten realms wiki page.

I'm pretty sure it's an npc class designed for enemies, not players. But it exists.

That's not a class, if you read the whole thing you realize the article suggests stats and skills to use to create what would be a Deathknight, using these and those stats, but there is no real base Deathknight class.

Yes, I can dress one of my characters looking like Spiderman in TESO, that doesn't mean there's a Spiderman class in TESO.

Erickson9610 · May 26

I'd accept new Class-specific Skill Styles. This first batch of Skill Styles has shown that nearly any color is acceptable, so I'd be down to see some green flame effect Skill Styles for Necromancer's abilities.

Toanis · May 27

An intelligent self-aware undead that is basically a soul possessing their own corpse is a theme older than DnD and there are several examples in ESO/TES.

A Wow Death Knight is basically what's considered a Wight in DnD a fully self aware undead fighter who died and really really really didn't want to. A knight who is also undead should be no problem in ESO. Personally I'd prefer an "Undead" Skilline over a Life-Drain themed Knight class.

A DnD Death Knight is something different, the whole "punishment by the forces of light backfired badly" theme doesn't really work in TES. Meridia for sure is an entity "of Light" who delights in punishing infidels, but there aren't many deities in all of fiction that are as opposed to undeath as Meridia.

Gray_howling_parrot · May 27

TaSheen wrote: »

fenn1539 wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

If you're referring to death knights as in WoW.... no thank you. They weren't fun in that game, and they really might not fit here, and would likely not be fun here either.

no, do you know ANYTHING about dnd lore? im literally talking about the green flames that burn deathknights to bones and turn them into deathknights in dnd AND mind you if you actually woulda bothered to read the damn post, its just me saying that the SKILL STYLES they are introducing should give the option to have some of the necro abilites be flavored in that green deathknight flame of dnd cause necro tanks basically are the peak of being themed on the general concept of a deathknight so it would be fun to see them add some styles for that.

I was GM'ing AD&D in the mid 1970s. I don't recall anything about death knights. Only death knights I've ever run across are in WoW, and as I said, they weren't fun there. From your description, they don't sound any more fun to me than necromancer does. And I did read your "damn" post - I was then and still remain unimpressed.

TES is a VERY long way from any D&D roots....

I found Death Knights to be one of the more fun classes aesthetically and mechanically in WoW coming from somebody that loved Paladins, Hunters, Warlocks & Death Knights. This is also coming from somebody that is not really interested in ZOS's current rendition of Necromancer with no perma-companions.

TaSheen · May 27

Cooperharley wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

fenn1539 wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

If you're referring to death knights as in WoW.... no thank you. They weren't fun in that game, and they really might not fit here, and would likely not be fun here either.

no, do you know ANYTHING about dnd lore? im literally talking about the green flames that burn deathknights to bones and turn them into deathknights in dnd AND mind you if you actually woulda bothered to read the damn post, its just me saying that the SKILL STYLES they are introducing should give the option to have some of the necro abilites be flavored in that green deathknight flame of dnd cause necro tanks basically are the peak of being themed on the general concept of a deathknight so it would be fun to see them add some styles for that.

I was GM'ing AD&D in the mid 1970s. I don't recall anything about death knights. Only death knights I've ever run across are in WoW, and as I said, they weren't fun there. From your description, they don't sound any more fun to me than necromancer does. And I did read your "damn" post - I was then and still remain unimpressed.

TES is a VERY long way from any D&D roots....

I found Death Knights to be one of the more fun classes aesthetically and mechanically in WoW coming from somebody that loved Paladins, Hunters, Warlocks & Death Knights. This is also coming from somebody that is not really interested in ZOS's current rendition of Necromancer with no perma-companions.

My sister and daughter LOVED them in WoW. I just really was focused on my hunters. I did have some other classes, but really only played my hunters. Wish wardens in ESO were more like hunters in WoW....

barney2525 · May 27

I don't get it.

They add something new, and then people want something more.