ZOS, Massive Spike in Ping/LAG in Recent Days - What Gives?

Just_Attivi · May 22

Yea, the lack of communication is what did it for me. "we are aware'' and nothing more.... when theres been consistent issues for well over a month now (this lag thing has been what? 3 weeks now? before that theres been countless issues that I already highlighted in a different thread, or maybe this one, idk, theres so many threads about this youd think ZOS would say something and not just move these threads to a different category, but im rambling now).

We cant request refunds but we can stop supporting them. we already know gold road and scribing is gonna be a hot mess, be it bugs, performance, or just how much it breaks every aspect of the game. itll be a year before it starts to feel balanced, after it sells tons of copies for the newest shiny. I personally cancelled my sub a couple weeks back when they first kept their mouths shut regarding the fact that many players literally couldnt play without lagging out. no point in paying for a game you cant play. Havent bought gold road. Cant justify supporting this company in its current state.

#frustratedRantsAreAllYouGetAtThisPointMaybeCommunicateBetterZos

FlopsyPrince · May 22

Just_Attivi wrote: »

Yea, the lack of communication is what did it for me. "we are aware'' and nothing more.... when theres been consistent issues for well over a month now (this lag thing has been what? 3 weeks now? before that theres been countless issues that I already highlighted in a different thread, or maybe this one, idk, theres so many threads about this youd think ZOS would say something and not just move these threads to a different category, but im rambling now).

We cant request refunds but we can stop supporting them. we already know gold road and scribing is gonna be a hot mess, be it bugs, performance, or just how much it breaks every aspect of the game. itll be a year before it starts to feel balanced, after it sells tons of copies for the newest shiny. I personally cancelled my sub a couple weeks back when they first kept their mouths shut regarding the fact that many players literally couldnt play without lagging out. no point in paying for a game you cant play. Havent bought gold road. Cant justify supporting this company in its current state.

#frustratedRantsAreAllYouGetAtThisPointMaybeCommunicateBetterZos

I did bite the bullet and pre-ordered Gold Road on PC and PS5. I somewhat lament that now, especially given the lack of responsiveness.

I also am once again disliking those here who will oppose any request for true quality of life improvements. Making things simpler and "funner" seems to get many down.

Just_Attivi · May 22

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

I did bite the bullet and pre-ordered Gold Road on PC and PS5. I somewhat lament that now, especially given the lack of responsiveness.

I also am once again disliking those here who will oppose any request for true quality of life improvements. Making things simpler and "funner" seems to get many down.

Simple?! FUN?! When I was your age, I had to walk to cyrodiil uphill BOTH WAYS, IN THE SNOW despite being AD in the south! I had to struggle and be miserable about aspects of the game, and so must you!

(note: Satire)

FlopsyPrince · May 22

Just_Attivi wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

I did bite the bullet and pre-ordered Gold Road on PC and PS5. I somewhat lament that now, especially given the lack of responsiveness.

I also am once again disliking those here who will oppose any request for true quality of life improvements. Making things simpler and "funner" seems to get many down.

Simple?! FUN?! When I was your age, I had to walk to cyrodiil uphill BOTH WAYS, IN THE SNOW despite being AD in the south! I had to struggle and be miserable about aspects of the game, and so must you!

(note: Satire)

Hey! I am telling my grandchildren to get off the lawn all the time!

I did also see Pong in a department store when it first came out! (Not sarcasm, but that was the "start" of modern home gaming.)

barney2525 · May 22

It's Aliens jamming the satellites in prelude to invasion.

Ignore it.

Aurielle · May 22

My ping usually hovered around 110-120 before the last maintenance, but the last few weeks it has been in the 450 range with frequent 999+ spikes, only occasionally dropping back down to the usual 110. Doesn’t matter if I’m in Cyrodiil or not. I’m seeing 999+ spikes even when I’m doing writs.

Hoping that maintenance today fixes things, but not terribly optimistic.

thinkaboutit · May 22

Is ZOS even looking at this issue? It doesn't seem to be on their radar. @ZOS_GinaBruno

Shagreth · May 22

Photosniper89 wrote: »

Whatever is happening tonight (this past 3 weeks tbh) is absolutely unacceptable for a company of this size with this many resources and departments - especially when you just have a lead go on and brag about how flawless their dlc has been and how their game is 10 games in one.

@ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert What the hell is going on here?! Paging the communication department.

Remember how Firor was bragging about how ESO is a huge financial success? Yeah, I don't see that much of that money going back into the game. Don't get me wrong, I'm not naive, I know how businesses work, but still.. it's bad.

Photosniper89 · May 22

There aren't enough words to describe the experience last night on NA/GH.

Look at any stream from last night and you'll see just how awful the performance is. I'd argue it is worse then pre hardware refresh.

Photosniper89 · May 22

thinkaboutit wrote: »

Is ZOS even looking at this issue? It doesn't seem to be on their radar. @ZOS_GinaBruno

No.

thinkaboutit · May 22

Like, is someone running a bitcoin miner on ZOS ESO servers or what?

Photosniper89 · May 22

thinkaboutit wrote: »

Like, is someone running a bitcoin miner on ZOS ESO servers or what?

I'm curious if it has anything to do with the PTS. But again... we don't know anything because not a single word from typical ZOS. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin

Secchan · May 22

I returned to Northern Elsweyr for the first time in three years with an alt this week and was reminded of why I never liked that zone. That zone in particular has massive spikes. No other zone does this. Every other zone I'm at a comfortable 70-80 ping. Going to Northern Elsweyr I spike to 300-400 ping. It was that way in 2018. It's the same now. PC-EU. Not even Cyro is like that for me.

There can be absolutely NOTHING going on at the place I'm at. Just chilling and fishing, not other players running around, no attack effects etc, and spikes at 400. What gives?

Shagreth · May 22

So, maintenance is done in EU (finally) and I was expecting to see numbers at or below 70 again, but that is not the case sadly, it did dip to 70 ONCE and now it's stable at around 90 to 120.

davidtk · May 22

So I'm wondering if I want to turn it on. This comedy to a functional game? I was kind of hoping something would improve when they even had to extend it two hours. Whereas NA was up an hour early, but not that they cared.

Photosniper89 · May 22

@ZOS_Kevin PLEASE come be our savior and give us some kind of update or acknowledgment of this.

VouxeTheMinotaur · May 22

i know this is about PC / NA, but PS / Na is also supper laggy and having some crashes. Just today i was in vet cauldron farming for the mask with a group from Gf, we get to the final boss Baron, and he starts doing the laser wall, adds popping up, pillars, etc. the usual. Out of nowhere the frames just DROP drastically, I'm talking like freeze frame, half pixelated screen while the other half is still buffering, then booted from the game.

I thought it was just me, but when I logged back in, apparently two others disconnected at the same time as me, the healer and other damage dealer. tank was by himself, poor guy. could only imagine the expression on his face when realizing everyone disappeared.

the DC only happened that time, but all the other times I'm running dungeons, the frames are not bueno

Kainarel · May 22

Something definitely happened with a massive kick of a good portion of players with a login queue afterwards.

Judging by the last post here, seems like the same issue kicked NA players as well as us from EU.

That certainly requires some investigation to see what happened and why.

Photosniper89 · May 22

Was hoping that the extended maintenance would fix the issues....

nope.

TheMajority · May 22

Secchan wrote: »

I returned to Northern Elsweyr for the first time in three years with an alt this week and was reminded of why I never liked that zone. That zone in particular has massive spikes. No other zone does this. Every other zone I'm at a comfortable 70-80 ping. Going to Northern Elsweyr I spike to 300-400 ping. It was that way in 2018. It's the same now. PC-EU. Not even Cyro is like that for me.

There can be absolutely NOTHING going on at the place I'm at. Just chilling and fishing, not other players running around, no attack effects etc, and spikes at 400. What gives?

Elsweyr didn't exist in 2018, it was released in 2019

Lags · May 23

Photosniper89 wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I've done overland content including delves and dolmens (no, not that one) on PC NA and PC EU from the UK with no problems. I often do dungeons as well and haven't had any issues with those, although it's probably a week or so since I did one. I agree it could be a network issue, or if it's since a patch maybe some addons haven't been updated? I don't use any so I can't tell.

Appreciate your feedback but 1000% this is not add on related.

Ill never understand why people come into these threads to say stuff like this. Its like it just serves nothing to say everything is fine for you. Especially when you arent doing more end game/harder content. Its so easy to overlook performance when you are questing or doing random normals or whatever, vs intense pvp or bgs or trials or tri fectas or whatever you're doing when it requires you to be fast and precise. I think thats the biggest disconnect here, is the fast and precise part. Some players dont realize how much performance issues, even when its small, impacts someone trying to play fast and precise to do something difficult.

Regardless, ya i couldn't agree more. Idk whats going on but the last few weeks have felt bad everywhere. Its different from the normal terrible gray host performance as well. Idk what they did.

twev · May 23

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Just_Attivi wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

I did bite the bullet and pre-ordered Gold Road on PC and PS5. I somewhat lament that now, especially given the lack of responsiveness.

I also am once again disliking those here who will oppose any request for true quality of life improvements. Making things simpler and "funner" seems to get many down.

Simple?! FUN?! When I was your age, I had to walk to cyrodiil uphill BOTH WAYS, IN THE SNOW despite being AD in the south! I had to struggle and be miserable about aspects of the game, and so must you!

(note: Satire)

Hey! I am telling my grandchildren to get off the lawn all the time!

I did also see Pong in a department store when it first came out! (Not sarcasm, but that was the "start" of modern home gaming.)

We had to play Pong on an easel with magic markers.

twev · May 23

thinkaboutit wrote: »

Like, is someone running a bitcoin miner on ZOS ESO servers or what?

Code Name: ESO+.

Lags · May 23

Just_Attivi wrote: »

Yea, the lack of communication is what did it for me. "we are aware'' and nothing more.... when theres been consistent issues for well over a month now (this lag thing has been what? 3 weeks now? before that theres been countless issues that I already highlighted in a different thread, or maybe this one, idk, theres so many threads about this youd think ZOS would say something and not just move these threads to a different category, but im rambling now).

We cant request refunds but we can stop supporting them. we already know gold road and scribing is gonna be a hot mess, be it bugs, performance, or just how much it breaks every aspect of the game. itll be a year before it starts to feel balanced, after it sells tons of copies for the newest shiny. I personally cancelled my sub a couple weeks back when they first kept their mouths shut regarding the fact that many players literally couldnt play without lagging out. no point in paying for a game you cant play. Havent bought gold road. Cant justify supporting this company in its current state.

#frustratedRantsAreAllYouGetAtThisPointMaybeCommunicateBetterZos

where did we get a "we are aware"? Im generally curious because tonight has been so bad for me and im trying to figure out if they are even aware of it. I mean if they are looking at the forums theres not way they arent aware, so i guess im wondering if they have acknowledged it yet.

But ya its a strange issue, like i played all day on my arc just fine. Swap to my dk and immediately my ping is fluctuating and i have like a 2 sec cast time on skills. Then i crash, twice. But again, all day on my arc and things were fine. Maybe coincidence but it seems odd. And tonight is deff not the first night.

Photosniper89 · May 23

Lags wrote: »

Just_Attivi wrote: »

Yea, the lack of communication is what did it for me. "we are aware'' and nothing more.... when theres been consistent issues for well over a month now (this lag thing has been what? 3 weeks now? before that theres been countless issues that I already highlighted in a different thread, or maybe this one, idk, theres so many threads about this youd think ZOS would say something and not just move these threads to a different category, but im rambling now).

We cant request refunds but we can stop supporting them. we already know gold road and scribing is gonna be a hot mess, be it bugs, performance, or just how much it breaks every aspect of the game. itll be a year before it starts to feel balanced, after it sells tons of copies for the newest shiny. I personally cancelled my sub a couple weeks back when they first kept their mouths shut regarding the fact that many players literally couldnt play without lagging out. no point in paying for a game you cant play. Havent bought gold road. Cant justify supporting this company in its current state.

#frustratedRantsAreAllYouGetAtThisPointMaybeCommunicateBetterZos

where did we get a "we are aware"? Im generally curious because tonight has been so bad for me and im trying to figure out if they are even aware of it. I mean if they are looking at the forums theres not way they arent aware, so i guess im wondering if they have acknowledged it yet.

But ya its a strange issue, like i played all day on my arc just fine. Swap to my dk and immediately my ping is fluctuating and i have like a 2 sec cast time on skills. Then i crash, twice. But again, all day on my arc and things were fine. Maybe coincidence but it seems odd. And tonight is deff not the first night.

Regarding this issue, no there hasn't even been a "we are aware" from @ZOS_GinaBruno or @ZOS_Kevin. I'm sure they have seen this thread though - it's been at the top for many many days now.

Jaraal · May 23

So what's the deal with the severely deteriorated performance since the maintenance? I crashed just trying to log into the game, then when I got into Gray Host it's like a slide show. People in the zone are saying it's terrible as well, so it's not just me. And I can stream baseball games, watch YouTube, play other games just fine. So it's definitely just an ESO thing.

What did you guys do to the game during maintenance? Never seen it this bad.

dwright09ub17_ESO · May 23

The game is worse tonight than ever, Cyro constant disconnects, same in northern els

fizzylu · May 23

I logged on for the first time today/tonight and had some weird screen issue. Tried other games and they were running fine, but restarted my PC just to test it out and now ESO works fine as well. Go figure. This game confuses me.

Just_Attivi · May 23

Photosniper89 wrote: »

Was hoping that the extended maintenance would fix the issues....

nope.

LOL, you are a funny one

@Lags

as for the "we are aware" comment, I genuinely dont recall which threads it was in, but it there was a few comments regarding 'they have seen our reports and are aware' from gina/jessica if memory serves. (I just went to dev tracker and those are there, but from may 7/8 lol). I could have swore I saw Kevin in a more recent one (though still probably a week+ ago) saying he was passing it along but i dont see that in dev tracker, maybe a thread got deleted lol. but its been largely radio silence since the major outage, and we have had zero word on the persistent but less wide spread issues people are still having (which, again, i could have sworn I saw a Kevin post about it in one of these threads, but Im not seeing it in dev tracker now)

Just_Attivi · May 23

Jaraal wrote: »

So what's the deal with the severely deteriorated performance since the maintenance? I crashed just trying to log into the game, then when I got into Gray Host it's like a slide show. People in the zone are saying it's terrible as well, so it's not just me. And I can stream baseball games, watch YouTube, play other games just fine. So it's definitely just an ESO thing.

What did you guys do to the game during maintenance? Never seen it this bad.

If its any consolation, last night I was just trying out some gear set ups/looking at numbers while killing overland mobs and would routinely have skills sit in limbo a few seconds, light/heavy attacks animate but do no damage, so... performance sucked outside of cyrodiil too!