Leveling Sharp-as-Night Rapport

FlopsyPrince

Any easy way to do this? Both 125 points gains are incredibly hard. Worldbosses of hunting the equivalent of world bosses (that can lock me from action until I am dead.

Azandar is almost too trivial comparatively, especially if you do daily enchanting writs.

EDIT: I meant leveling Rapport. Leveling the companion is just the normal slog.

Was this thought through?

furiouslog

OMG PLEASE STOP

spartaxoxo

You may want to invest in the CP that automatically breaks you free and slot a taunt on Sharp. This should make it easy for you to complete the trophy hunting daily at least.

DoofusMax

Leveling all companions works pretty much the same: kill stuff while they're the active companion. Leveling rapport is probably what you're asking about and Sharp is a tough cookie in more ways than one. I've done most of my rapport gains with him through the Ald'ruhn hunting daily and fishing. The hunting daily isn't WB-level toughness, though. It's a lot of running around to places that aren't near wayshrines and beating up on a tougher-than-normal overland critters (maybe qualifies as "Dangerous Foe" for seals of endeavor purposes). But that daily needs to be unlocked before it's available, while the Necrom daily is available as soon as you enter the zone.

For the Necrom World Boss daily, you only need to do that once and you only need to have Sharp as the active companion when you turn it in, not while you do it. That's enough to tick it off the list for the "Sharp's Favor" achievement, which you'll need to get his memento.

SilverBride

I level the Companions by using experience scrolls then running an arena or a public dungeon... something with frequent large spawns. It's even better to do it during a double experience event.

Munkfist

furiouslog wrote: »

OMG PLEASE STOP

Hapexamendios

If you think the hunting quest quarry is the same level as a world boss, you haven't done it.

Orbital78

If you're just trying to do rapport, go fishing. You can also hunt in areas with Dwemer automations and look for heavy sacks. It was pretty easy IMO. Ashlander dailies give big chunks, but I did get his rapport up while WB dailies were being done non-stop since the chapter was still brand newish.

FlopsyPrince

Orbital78 wrote: »

If you're just trying to do rapport, go fishing. You can also hunt in areas with Dwemer automations and look for heavy sacks. It was pretty easy IMO. Ashlander dailies give big chunks, but I did get his rapport up while WB dailies were being done non-stop since the chapter was still brand newish.

Aren't those all time gated? 1 point every period can be quite slow, such as viewing bookshelves with Bastian and Mirri.

DoofusMax wrote: »

Leveling all companions works pretty much the same: kill stuff while they're the active companion. Leveling rapport is probably what you're asking about and Sharp is a tough cookie in more ways than one. I've done most of my rapport gains with him through the Ald'ruhn hunting daily and fishing. The hunting daily isn't WB-level toughness, though. It's a lot of running around to places that aren't near wayshrines and beating up on a tougher-than-normal overland critters (maybe qualifies as "Dangerous Foe" for seals of endeavor purposes). But that daily needs to be unlocked before it's available, while the Necrom daily is available as soon as you enter the zone.

For the Necrom World Boss daily, you only need to do that once and you only need to have Sharp as the active companion when you turn it in, not while you do it. That's enough to tick it off the list for the "Sharp's Favor" achievement, which you'll need to get his memento.

I am not sure how I unlocked it, but I have the "kill 3" daily now. Though I can't kill one without getting immobilized, killed and losing all progress.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

You may want to invest in the CP that automatically breaks you free and slot a taunt on Sharp. This should make it easy for you to complete the trophy hunting daily at least.

A taunt might help (or having my tank Bastian or Azandar active during the killing). It is still really annoying to get locked and killed, with no ability to break free. At least none worked for me.

Nerouyn

I got his rep up easily off Necrom WB dailies during the anniversary when everyone was dropping world bosses every other second.

Though you missed that, I'm still in that zone and see and hear people in chat killing bosses with decent frequency. Offer in chat to quest share and usually someone will join you.

I have no trouble solo'ing his Vvardenfell dailies but have high CP and fairly good gear.

Orbital78

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Aren't those all time gated? 1 point every period can be quite slow, such as viewing bookshelves with Bastian and Mirri.

A short one I think, trophy fish might not be. TBH I cannot remember it was only 1 or 5 per like 5 min I think. Similar with dwemer. Necrom WB daily and Ashlanders are the best option. Though I didn't have a lot of trouble with some of the WB like the guy with the wamasu etc. The ashlander one is super easy to solo, or at least should be with a companion.

Orbital78

You could also try using the crafted set Telvanni Efficiency if you want, companions should have no issues keeping taunt up and healing themselves then.

BretonMage

For fishing, casting a line has a cooldown (5 or 10 minutes, I think), but catching a rare fish does not. He has a perk which increases your chances of catching rare fish too, so it's easy to gain rapport, if a bit time-consuming. The CP to speed up fishing helps a lot here.

Take him to see a hist tree daily, that's an easy 10 points. Also, it seems the other Ashlander daily with Numani-Rasi also nets you the big rapport gains, and her quests only involve collecting relics from a bunch of standard unbarred enemies. That seems like the easier way to go.

spartaxoxo

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

A taunt might help (or having my tank Bastian or Azandar active during the killing). It is still really annoying to get locked and killed, with no ability to break free. At least none worked for me.

None of the Trophy bosses do that? It sounds like you might have been fighting the Hunger boss, which is a world boss for the Hall of Justice dailies. That one will pin you down unless you use the Psijic skill that reminds time or another player bashes you. The Ashlander ones require you to be a friend of the Ashlander clans. And then they will ask you hunt bosses that are no more difficult than a public dungeon boss.

FlopsyPrince

BretonMage wrote: »

For fishing, casting a line has a cooldown (5 or 10 minutes, I think), but catching a rare fish does not. He has a perk which increases your chances of catching rare fish too, so it's easy to gain rapport, if a bit time-consuming. The CP to speed up fishing helps a lot here.

Take him to see a hist tree daily, that's an easy 10 points. Also, it seems the other Ashlander daily with Numani-Rasi also nets you the big rapport gains, and her quests only involve collecting relics from a bunch of standard unbarred enemies. That seems like the easier way to go.

I may have missed that one. I thought it was only the hunt and the WB quest. I didn't think the other one helped with rapport.

Maybe I finally earn fishing achievements....

FlopsyPrince

spartaxoxo wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

A taunt might help (or having my tank Bastian or Azandar active during the killing). It is still really annoying to get locked and killed, with no ability to break free. At least none worked for me.

None of the Trophy bosses do that? It sounds like you might have been fighting the Hunger boss, which is a world boss for the Hall of Justice dailies. That one will pin you down unless you use the Psijic skill that reminds time or another player bashes you. The Ashlander ones require you to be a friend of the Ashlander clans. And then they will ask you hunt bosses that are no more difficult than a public dungeon boss.

Then I must not have unlocked those. Yeah it is the Hunger boss (3x) I think. I even joined someone else, but we both ended up dead and things reset after a long attempt.

FlopsyPrince

spartaxoxo wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

A taunt might help (or having my tank Bastian or Azandar active during the killing). It is still really annoying to get locked and killed, with no ability to break free. At least none worked for me.

None of the Trophy bosses do that? It sounds like you might have been fighting the Hunger boss, which is a world boss for the Hall of Justice dailies. That one will pin you down unless you use the Psijic skill that reminds time or another player bashes you. The Ashlander ones require you to be a friend of the Ashlander clans. And then they will ask you hunt bosses that are no more difficult than a public dungeon boss.

Oh, is this the one in Vvardenfel? That is a pain to unlock....

Nerouyn

BretonMage wrote: »

The CP to speed up fishing helps a lot here.

Plus the fish food - artaeum pickled fish bowl.

Nerouyn

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Oh, is this the one in Vvardenfel? That is a pain to unlock....

It's two easy quests. I did it myself recently though was levelling his rep so fast from Necrom wb dailies during the anniversary event that I only bothered doing those dailies twice.

spartaxoxo

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

A taunt might help (or having my tank Bastian or Azandar active during the killing). It is still really annoying to get locked and killed, with no ability to break free. At least none worked for me.

None of the Trophy bosses do that? It sounds like you might have been fighting the Hunger boss, which is a world boss for the Hall of Justice dailies. That one will pin you down unless you use the Psijic skill that reminds time or another player bashes you. The Ashlander ones require you to be a friend of the Ashlander clans. And then they will ask you hunt bosses that are no more difficult than a public dungeon boss.

Oh, is this the one in Vvardenfel? That is a pain to unlock....

Yup. In Vvardenfell. Not the main city but Ald'ruhn. You have to do a couple of overland quests to unlock them.

First this one
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Ancestral_Ties

And then this one

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Ashlander_Relations

Sakiri

Sharp I leveled to max through fishing.

THEN I realized I had to do the dailies to get Sharp's Favor. I picked the one dremora dude boss and ended up soloing it for the weekly.

Shara_Wynn

Fishing got him up really fast for me. That and harvesting alchemy nodes and heavy sacks.

I loved getting his rapport up as I quite like fishing

In general I found both Sharp and Azandar the easiest of all the companions to get rapport up with. While Mirri and Bastian were the most difficult.

Sakiri

Azandar was easy. Take him to the Necrom Underways and steal all the urn contents. Every time you loot something off a list of certain items, like rune chunks, you get rapport.

MIrri was really easy during Jubilee. Opening the dolmen chest gave it to me.

Bastian still isn't max, and I don't have ember or Isobel unlocked.

Trejgon

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

I am not sure how I unlocked it, but I have the "kill 3" daily now. Though I can't kill one without getting immobilized, killed and losing all progress.

When it comes to ashlander dailies, the hunt daily the target mob can be soloed by my sharp, and he is build to be tank-healer hybrid, so it is not like he does much of dps anyway.

On a side note, both Ashlander daily types count for this 125, but only one per day (so if you do relic preservation instead it will proc sharp's rapport gain as well, but doing both only give the rapport once)

DenverRalphy

BretonMage wrote: »

For fishing, casting a line has a cooldown (5 or 10 minutes, I think), but catching a rare fish does not. He has a perk which increases your chances of catching rare fish too, so it's easy to gain rapport, if a bit time-consuming. The CP to speed up fishing helps a lot here.

Actually, Sharp's perk increases the speed at which you catch fish. It doesn't affect the quality. To increase the chance to get a rare fish, you need the Arteum Pickled Fish Bowl, or the Angler's Instinct CP perk.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Trejgon wrote: »

On a side note, both Ashlander daily types count for this 125, but only one per day (so if you do relic preservation instead it will proc sharp's rapport gain as well, but doing both only give the rapport once)

This. I found the most efficient way was to complete the objectives for both but only turn one in, then the next day you can turn in the other immediately and pick up replacement dailies. It lets you be more efficient with your time if you don’t have a consistent amount of play time during the week, because effectively you only have to go questing every other day, but you can go every day if you have the time.

LanteanPegasus

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Actually, Sharp's perk increases the speed at which you catch fish. It doesn't affect the quality. To increase the chance to get a rare fish, you need the Arteum Pickled Fish Bowl, or the Angler's Instinct CP perk.

If they didn't change it since last year, I think you are wrong.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi everyone, we’d like to address the concerns raised in this thread about the Sharp’s Patience Companion Perk and clear up a few things.
For context, here’s the patch note for this perk:

“Sharp provides ‘Sharp’s Patience’ which offers an improved chance at finding trophy fish and slightly reducing reel time."

Also, eating a meal and crafting a poison are easy +5 rapport sorces. They have a cooldown (1hour), but can be done here and there during game time with minimal effort.

DenverRalphy

LanteanPegasus wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Actually, Sharp's perk increases the speed at which you catch fish. It doesn't affect the quality. To increase the chance to get a rare fish, you need the Arteum Pickled Fish Bowl, or the Angler's Instinct CP perk.

If they didn't change it since last year, I think you are wrong.

Nope. Always been that way. Sharp and Reel Techniques are for speed. Arteum Pickled Fish Bowl and Angler's Instinct for Rarity.

Nerouyn

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Nope. Always been that way. Sharp and Reel Techniques are for speed. Arteum Pickled Fish Bowl and Angler's Instinct for Rarity.

The wiki says otherwise.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Sharp-as-Night

Sharp's Patience: Fish bite at an increased rate and have a higher chance of being trophy fish. Note that this does not reduce your chance to hook special items.

Can't vouch for it myself, because I've really only started since having him and knew he gained rep and boosted it so have almost never fished without him.

I can only vouch for Arteum Pickled Fish Bowl. Tried getting the Necrom fishing achievements without it (but with Sharp + Angler's Instinct) but no super rare lurker one. Because I didn't know the recipe myself. Buying and eating the food got me it within half an hour, and also the APFB recipe very quickly when I tried for that.

spartaxoxo

Sharp increases both reel speed and chance for trophy fish according to the devs. He increases the chance for trophy fish specifically by decreasing the odds of pulling up bait.

LanteanPegasus

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Nope. Always been that way. Sharp and Reel Techniques are for speed. Arteum Pickled Fish Bowl and Angler's Instinct for Rarity.

It can't very well always have been that way if the patch notes for the Necrom chapter (June 2023), quoted by an official moderator to explain the rare fish chance in detail (here), say otherwise. Would you mind telling us what is your source?
If there has been a change since then I'd like to be aware of it.