PTS Update 42 - Feedback Thread for HDR

ZOS_GinaBruno

This is the official feedback thread for HDR support. Specific feedback that the team is looking for includes the following:

• If you also play on console, how does this compare?
• If you use multiple monitors, are you able to enable/disable HDR on the correct displays?
• How did the game look when you enabled HDR for the first time or changed the brightness/contrast settings to their max/min?
• Do you have any general feedback?

acastanza_ESO

I don't play on console so I can't really compare to the options there, but I do use reshade to get HDR-like effects (at some small performance cost). Having had a bit of opportunity to look at the new HDR on a new alt account that isn't locked, it looks good, really good. Maybe not enough to give up reshade entirely (like for the sharpening effects) but in terms of adjustments to brightness and color? This is some seriously great work and will 100% be replacing those reshade effects!

Cast_El

How turn it off? I don't see anything about it in video settings

sharkclanb16_ESO

Whilst the settings work before in some areas, this is what I am seeing from within the trial

I am also finding it hard to get a good balance between dark and light areas, its headtorch or sunglasses

sharkclanb16_ESO

Cast_El wrote: »

How turn it off? I don't see anything about it in video settings

The option to turn it off is in Settings -> Video -> HDR Off but for me it just crashes the game to the bug reporter if I try and turn it off

sharkclanb16_ESO

This is my semi-happy level at



Everything feels a lot more vivid than windows HDR taht I ahve been using and the HDR Mode setting for Vivid is on steroids

moo_2021

on PC. My TV is HDR capable and I can play HDR games.

ESO's HDR on does not activate the HDR video mode on my TV at all, and it just looks awfully white.

MashmalloMan

moo_2021 wrote: »

on PC. My TV is HDR capable and I can play HDR games.

ESO's HDR on does not activate the HDR video mode on my TV at all, and it just looks awfully white.

Did you make sure to go to your display settings in windows for the TV and enable HDR mode?

Note: on PC when you enable HDR mode, most monitors don't come properly visually balanced. In my case, I needed to go into my NVIDIA control panel and mess around with the sliders to make the colour distribution look correct. At default, HDR enabled looks like I'm viewing everything in old timey sepia tone.

moo_2021

MashmalloMan wrote: »

moo_2021 wrote: »

on PC. My TV is HDR capable and I can play HDR games.

ESO's HDR on does not activate the HDR video mode on my TV at all, and it just looks awfully white.

Did you make sure to go to your display settings in windows for the TV and enable HDR mode?

Note: on PC when you enable HDR mode, most monitors don't come properly visually balanced. In my case, I needed to go into my NVIDIA control panel and mess around with the sliders to make the colour distribution look correct. At default, HDR enabled looks like I'm viewing everything in old timey sepia tone.

Yep "Play HDR games and apps" is enabled, but full screen games are supposed to turn on "HDR" signal. That was not on - the TV screen is still in non-HDR mode.

MashmalloMan

moo_2021 wrote: »

MashmalloMan wrote: »

moo_2021 wrote: »

on PC. My TV is HDR capable and I can play HDR games.

ESO's HDR on does not activate the HDR video mode on my TV at all, and it just looks awfully white.

Did you make sure to go to your display settings in windows for the TV and enable HDR mode?

Note: on PC when you enable HDR mode, most monitors don't come properly visually balanced. In my case, I needed to go into my NVIDIA control panel and mess around with the sliders to make the colour distribution look correct. At default, HDR enabled looks like I'm viewing everything in old timey sepia tone.

Yep "Play HDR games and apps" is enabled, but full screen games are supposed to turn on "HDR" signal. That was not on - the TV screen is still in non-HDR mode.

Just to clarify, I'm referring to this windows setting which doesn't sound the same as the one you're mentioning. It sounds like you're referring to a TV menu setting:

Cast_El

Screen is weird even if I turn HDR off. Ui is weird

ADarklore

What's weird is the windows setting will not even allow me to turn HDR (off) for my TV (which I play ESO on my 55" HDTV)... the screen blinks and reverts back to original setting. I'm hoping I can turn it off in the game settings (I'm not on PTS), since I DO NOT like HDR and have it turned off in every device I own. My PC monitor is not HDR, so I don't have to worry about it there.

ghost_bg_ESO

even slapped same settings as series x - haven't seen much difference (yet on pc i personally play with hdr off)


- it is better than windows auto hdr
- on controller there is no hdr on/off - has to be turned on with keyboard or it stays on windows auto hdr.
- even if it is off at windows setting it doesn't disappear from the menu and still can be turned on - leading to some bright "mess" compared to console where it disappears from settings - this may be better as it may give more options for brightness contrast tunning on pc.

(probably everyone on hdr knows it, but don't forget to check "windows hdr calibration" app)

acastanza_ESO

I've been playing with HDR and it has been great. However today I encountered an issue with toggling HDR off then back On:

I wanted to take a screenshot in non HDR mode, so I quit the game, turned off HDR in my Windows settings, launched the game, and loaded my characters just fine. I then quit the game again, reenabled HDR in my Windows settings, and relaunched the game but whenever I tried to load that character the game instantly crashes to the desktop.

I had to go to the Settings > Video > HDR and toggle it back to ON (it was OFF) in order to stop the game from crashing and get back in. I can't remember if I had turned it off myself before quitting the game the first time, or if it turned itself off. But it appears that attempting to load the game while your system is in HDR enabled mode, but the game is in HDR OFF mode can cause the game to CTD while loading characters.

Edit: just had this happen again on launching the game without touching the HDR settings form ON, I had to turn it off System Side to stop my game crashing on character load.

Edit 2: I'm 95% sure this is caused by HDR, but it actually seems to be getting worse. Now even after repairing my game and toggling HDR I'm still getting CTDs trying to load characters.

Edit 3: This might be a bad interaction with addons somehow? I toggled off all my addons using the global setting and was able to load in, but these addons weren't causing any issues an hour ago, and this is the first time I've touched the addon settings during this whole process.

James-Wayne

With HDR switched on I have noticed that the print screen option to save an image to desktop now dulls the image to very little colour range, I know HDR is brightening the peaks but it doesnt make sense why this brightness would just not be included as part of the save to PNG.

I would have thought saving the image would be based on the internal game (like Nvidia does it) and not based on the display.

JaiaV

Can we get a saturation slider? It's dramatically over-saturated on the default profile for me and the vivid profile is.. vomit inducing. It actually looks worse on screen than Game Bar's HDR grabs can convey.

Default:


Vivid:


In between the saturation being so off (and so much like so many modern phones.. right down to the way overblown blues) and the way the UI interacts with HDR on, honestly "auto-HDR" does a better job (despite being pretty bad).

MoonPile

JaiaV wrote: »

Can we get a saturation slider? It's dramatically over-saturated on the default profile for me and the vivid profile is.. vomit inducing. It actually looks worse on screen than Game Bar's HDR grabs can convey.

Default:


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Ahh I thought the West Weald zone had a different coloration, especially at times of day with blue sky. Left feedback about it in the zone thread. Have to go back and see if HDR is on.

Still, the saturation and over-tuned blue shadows are more visible in West Weald than any other zone; there was no difference in other areas. Possibly because of the complimentary color contrast with all the oranges. It looks cartoonish. As you said, even on default.

Belhawk1

HDR UI is just for the User Interface, so why have it?
Why not have HDR settings separate for indoor and outdoor?

acastanza_ESO

sharkclanb16_ESO wrote: »

Whilst the settings work before in some areas, this is what I am seeing from within the trial

I am also finding it hard to get a good balance between dark and light areas, its headtorch or sunglasses

Are you running Perfect Pixel? I saw this too with Perfect Pixel enabled, but not without it.

ZOS_GinaBruno

Hi all, just wanted to let everyone know that due to outstanding bugs with HDR support - which includes it causing some game crashes - we will be removing this functionality from Update 42 launch so we can address these issues. We'll plan to roll this out in the future once it's more stable. Thank you for the feedback!

acastanza_ESO

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi all, just wanted to let everyone know that due to outstanding bugs with HDR support - which includes it causing some game crashes - we will be removing this functionality from Update 42 launch so we can address these issues. We'll plan to roll this out in the future once it's more stable. Thank you for the feedback!

Dang, I was really looking forward to this, hopefully it gets fixed and rolled out soon!

Ra'Shtar

awww this sucks, I was wondering why the game looked so weird and here is the answer, I almost lost my head seeing if the option was moved somewhere else.

James-Wayne

Thats a relief, the screenshot tool never worked very well with the HDR changes and as I use this extensively, I was worried I would lose that feature.