This game has made 2 billion dollars!

h9dlb · April 6

https://www.gamesradar.com/after-making-dollar2-billion-in-10-years-the-elder-scrolls-onlines-director-wants-you-to-know-that-the-mmo-is-definitely-one-of-the-successful-live-service-games/

They could at least make the craft bag free now

CGPsaint · April 6

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dcam86b14_ESO · April 6

90% of that is housing

spartaxoxo · April 6

This game definitely knows how to make you want to spend without feeling pay 2 win.

CGPsaint · April 6

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FluffyBird · April 6

Is it a lot? I mean, by itself it is, but compared to other games how much is 2 billion dollars over 10 years?

spartaxoxo · April 6

FluffyBird wrote: »

Is it a lot? I mean, by itself it is, but compared to other games how much is 2 billion dollars over 10 years?

Not as much as the biggest games ever, but also well above average, I think. It's in the top selling games list on Steam.

FluffyBird · April 6

spartaxoxo wrote: »

FluffyBird wrote: »

Is it a lot? I mean, by itself it is, but compared to other games how much is 2 billion dollars over 10 years?

Not as much as the biggest games ever, but also well above average, I think. It's in the top selling games list on Steam.

Interesting, thanks. The "revenue" and "right now" are a tad vague (is it average revenue per week, since there are weeks? total? total for the period of time considered a "right now"?), but the game is definitely more successful than I'd expect.

Now excuse me, gotta go buy some more copies of BG3

loosej · April 6

h9dlb wrote: »

https://www.gamesradar.com/after-making-dollar2-billion-in-10-years-the-elder-scrolls-onlines-director-wants-you-to-know-that-the-mmo-is-definitely-one-of-the-successful-live-service-games/

They could at least make the craft bag free now

Or add a dedicated server for Cyro? Please?

Tandor · April 6

h9dlb wrote: »

https://www.gamesradar.com/after-making-dollar2-billion-in-10-years-the-elder-scrolls-onlines-director-wants-you-to-know-that-the-mmo-is-definitely-one-of-the-successful-live-service-games/

They could at least make the craft bag free now

Would that be on the basis of refunding the subs of all those players who've paid for the craft bag these past umpteen years, or would it just be a kick in the teeth for them in order to satisfy the sense of entitlement of those who have chosen not to pay for it?

spartaxoxo · April 6

FluffyBird wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

FluffyBird wrote: »

Is it a lot? I mean, by itself it is, but compared to other games how much is 2 billion dollars over 10 years?

Not as much as the biggest games ever, but also well above average, I think. It's in the top selling games list on Steam.

Interesting, thanks. The "revenue" and "right now" are a tad vague (is it average revenue per week, since there are weeks? total? total for the period of time considered a "right now"?), but the game is definitely more successful than I'd expect.

Now excuse me, gotta go buy some more copies of BG3

Weeks is the number of weeks it has spent on the top chart. I don't know the time period but last time I had checked it (several weeks ago) it was at number 30 and climbing. Now apparently it's at number 5. The green arrow means how many places it went up since they last updated the list. I'm guessing this chart gets updated from week to week based on that.

FluffyBird · April 6

Tandor wrote: »

h9dlb wrote: »

https://www.gamesradar.com/after-making-dollar2-billion-in-10-years-the-elder-scrolls-onlines-director-wants-you-to-know-that-the-mmo-is-definitely-one-of-the-successful-live-service-games/

They could at least make the craft bag free now

Would that be on the basis of refunding the subs of all those players who've paid for the craft bag these past umpteen years, or would it just be a kick in the teeth for them in order to satisfy the sense of entitlement of those who have chosen not to pay for it?

If they make craft bag free, they wouldn't make it free retroactively, right? They wouldn't go to the past and grant all those who didn't sub some free inventory space in the past? Humanity doesn't have the tech for that yet or did I miss something?

SilverBride · April 6

It would be a huge mistake to make the craft bag free. That is the biggest perk that players subscribe for. If they did that they would lose a whole lot of subscribers, then who would support the game to keep it running?

Blackbird_V · April 6

SilverBride wrote: »

It would be a huge mistake to make the craft bag free. That is the biggest perk that players subscribe for. If they did that they would lose a whole lot of subscribers, then who would support the game to keep it running?

People who love manipulative cats that talk to you when opening crown crates.

Zama666 · April 6

I hope ESO does better! Been playing for 9 years now. Where is Skyrim 6?

spartaxoxo · April 6

I feel like a limited craft bag would work fine for free. Say let you hold 20 items, 1 stack each. Most would still prefer the unlimited bag.

BretonMage · April 7

I'm happy to continue subscribing if it means continued support and content. Glad to see it still on the list of top sellers.

Dragonnord · April 7

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Not as much as the biggest games ever

How do you know for sure? Where can we see that?

TaSheen · April 7

Zama666 wrote: »

I hope ESO does better! Been playing for 9 years now. Where is Skyrim 6?

I don't know. And all I hope at this point is that: 1 - it happens before I'm too old and feeble to play games (hell, I'm in my mid 70s - how much longer do I have?); 2 - it's NOT VR.... as I have serious vertigo issues, and believe me.... VR would likely be something that would NOT be fun for me. Considering.... VR might actually cause me to wind up in hospital....

Kidgangster101 · April 7

Tandor wrote: »

h9dlb wrote: »

https://www.gamesradar.com/after-making-dollar2-billion-in-10-years-the-elder-scrolls-onlines-director-wants-you-to-know-that-the-mmo-is-definitely-one-of-the-successful-live-service-games/

They could at least make the craft bag free now

Would that be on the basis of refunding the subs of all those players who've paid for the craft bag these past umpteen years, or would it just be a kick in the teeth for them in order to satisfy the sense of entitlement of those who have chosen not to pay for it?

So just because someone pays for something in the past means it can't be improved upon? Legit question because you are entitled to having money where as some people don't have the luxury of investing tons of money into a game because they have to choose weather they want to pay a monthly sub or food for their kids. Or maybe they are disabled and are on a fixed budget idk my point is with the amount of money they make off crown sales and houses and loot boxes ECT they could easily give craft bag away.

carthalis · April 7

Dragonnord wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Not as much as the biggest games ever

How do you know for sure? Where can we see that?

according to Google Wow has made $9.23 billion revenue

TaSheen · April 7

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

h9dlb wrote: »

https://www.gamesradar.com/after-making-dollar2-billion-in-10-years-the-elder-scrolls-onlines-director-wants-you-to-know-that-the-mmo-is-definitely-one-of-the-successful-live-service-games/

They could at least make the craft bag free now

Would that be on the basis of refunding the subs of all those players who've paid for the craft bag these past umpteen years, or would it just be a kick in the teeth for them in order to satisfy the sense of entitlement of those who have chosen not to pay for it?

So just because someone pays for something in the past means it can't be improved upon? Legit question because you are entitled to having money where as some people don't have the luxury of investing tons of money into a game because they have to choose weather they want to pay a monthly sub or food for their kids. Or maybe they are disabled and are on a fixed budget idk my point is with the amount of money they make off crown sales and houses and loot boxes ECT they could easily give craft bag away.

People who are on the edge - that is, can't pay for food for the kids or themselves because they are indigent and buying stuff in an online game.... well, sorry. That's baloney. If they're doing that, they have HUGE issues outside of whatever the "pay for the sub to get the craft bag" is producing.

Seriously. If you can't afford the basics of living, WHY are you paying for stuff in an online game?

And no - I am NOT interested in ZOS "giving the craft bag away". I pay 3 annual subs (because I have the money to do so without a problem).

You want the craft bag, you sub. And if you short your kids on food for the sub? Well.... eventually you'll have to pay the piper....

heaven13 · April 7

Cynic in me feels like this anniversary is about celebrating that profit and trying to make more, not about celebrating/rewarding the players that helped them get there. Probably my least favorite anniversary since I started playing in 2017.

h9dlb · April 7

SilverBride wrote: »

It would be a huge mistake to make the craft bag free. That is the biggest perk that players subscribe for. If they did that they would lose a whole lot of subscribers, then who would support the game to keep it running?

What does the game need support for? They've made 2 Billion dollars. That's just like poor people who donate to billionaire presedential candidates!

TheMessengerOfDeath · April 7

I'm curious of where it's going clearly it's not going back into eso that's for sure.

ClevererHail6 · April 7

PVP players deleting and remaking low level characters. Then purchasing skills again.

SilverBride · April 7

h9dlb wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

It would be a huge mistake to make the craft bag free. That is the biggest perk that players subscribe for. If they did that they would lose a whole lot of subscribers, then who would support the game to keep it running?

What does the game need support for? They've made 2 Billion dollars. That's just like poor people who donate to billionaire presedential candidates!

They are a business. Businesses aren't free to run. They need a steady source of revenue to pay for the buildings they are housed in, and utilities, and computers and other equipment, and salaries for the staff, etc..

They don't owe their customers a share in their profits.

ikzaa · April 7

h9dlb wrote: »

https://www.gamesradar.com/after-making-dollar2-billion-in-10-years-the-elder-scrolls-onlines-director-wants-you-to-know-that-the-mmo-is-definitely-one-of-the-successful-live-service-games/

They could at least make the craft bag free now

It's the only reason to subscribe to ESO+ for many.

That's not going to happen.

Ferraris and gold toilets are not free, they need us!

Toanis · April 7

h9dlb wrote: »

What does the game need support for? They've made 2 Billion dollars. That's just like poor people who donate to billionaire presedential candidates!

200 million per year sounds a lot...

The holding company would like to keep 50% of that (to invest into the annual re-release of Skyrim...)
Let's say 1/2 of the revenue is from consoles, Sony/Microsoft take 30%, so another 30 million gone.

That leaves 70 milion for ZOS. Still a lot? Well, datacenter costs will be around 15 million for each server farm.

40 million to pay for 250 employees and a place for them to work seems a healthy business, but no money printing machine

Pelanora · April 7

Is that turnover or profit....I find it hard to believe this game makes a 200 mil profit per annum. Given its apparent difficulties buying the ict and staff it needs to deliver effectively to its customers.

Pelanora · April 7

FluffyBird wrote: »

Is it a lot? I mean, by itself it is, but compared to other games how much is 2 billion dollars over 10 years?

The fifa soccer game makes ea games 1 billion per annum. https://www.goal.com/en-au/news/how-much-money-does-ea-sports-make-from-fifa--ultimate-team/r1tbutqcbjhx19gkz54rtrp68

Hogwarts Legacy, 2023’s best-selling video game, has sold 24 million copies, generating well over $1 billion in sales, and Elden Ring sold about 20 million copies as well.

So it's taken ESO ten years to make the kind of money that the big games make in a year.