Are you content with class set style page drop rates & archival fortune prices?

Gray_howling_parrot

Seems as though the drop rates in actual IA content are fairly low. Price for the style page curated container is 12K. Are you happy with this? Or do you believe this needs to change?

fizl101

Can't vote as we don't have the patch on console yet

Araneae6537

The style pages drop far more often than book furnishings or new furnishing plans, both of which I would very much prefer.

The style pages should not drop at all if they are going to be bind-on-pickup. If I could sell dropped ones, then at least it would be some reward for me, and this would be consistent with how style pages work in every other aspect of the game (monster masks, event style pages, etc.)

So no, I am not happy with getting half a dozen style pages I don’t want and can’t sell.

Gray_howling_parrot

Unhappy

Araneae6537 wrote: »

The style pages drop far more often than book furnishings or new furnishing plans, both of which I would very much prefer.

The style pages should not drop at all if they are going to be bind-on-pickup. If I could sell dropped ones, then at least it would be some reward for me, and this would be consistent with how style pages work in every other aspect of the game (monster masks, event style pages, etc.)

So no, I am not happy with getting half a dozen style pages I don’t want and can’t sell.

Nah - it's the same thing as the consumables for the mount, pet, body/face markings, etc. I'm all for it and think they look great and I'd rather have more cosmetics that you have to earn rather than just being able to buy them with gold and never playing the content personally

colossalvoids

Indifferent

Seems quite easy to get both drop Nd price wise but don't care if anything changes in either direction.

Araneae6537

Cooperharley wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

The style pages drop far more often than book furnishings or new furnishing plans, both of which I would very much prefer.

The style pages should not drop at all if they are going to be bind-on-pickup. If I could sell dropped ones, then at least it would be some reward for me, and this would be consistent with how style pages work in every other aspect of the game (monster masks, event style pages, etc.)

So no, I am not happy with getting half a dozen style pages I don’t want and can’t sell.

Nah - it's the same thing as the consumables for the mount, pet, body/face markings, etc. I'm all for it and think they look great and I'd rather have more cosmetics that you have to earn rather than just being able to buy them with gold and never playing the content personally

STYLE PAGES have never been this way. If you got them as drops you could use them yourself or sell them. And mounts, pets, body markings etc. are not drops but achievement rewards. The style pages could be earned only — totally fine with that — make them bind on pickup and only purchasable with Archival currency. But remove them as drops or reduce the frequency.

notyuu

Unhappy

the drop rate is only half the issue, the rest of it is that YOU CAN'T EVEN USE THE STYLES ON OTHER CLASSES, COME ON ZOS, FIX IT

dcrush

Unhappy

I’ve done about twenty arcs since u41 dropped on pc. Got all the leads for that new useless mythic but not a single style page.

inf.toniceb17_ESO

Indifferent

Droprate is ok i guess, considering that you can buy it with fortunes. I've already have all style pages for warden and arcanist and a couple of pages for other classes. Some days i don't get anything, others i get like 3-5 pages per run. That said I've been hitting IA hard lately: 6-7 arc runs daily, 2-3 runs per day on weekend. If you just play a couple arcs casually then it will take a while to collect everything. My main issue, like many others said already, is that styles are class-locked. What's worse is that you can't use them on companions at all. Even if they are matching class.

Gray_howling_parrot

Unhappy

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Cooperharley wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

The style pages drop far more often than book furnishings or new furnishing plans, both of which I would very much prefer.

The style pages should not drop at all if they are going to be bind-on-pickup. If I could sell dropped ones, then at least it would be some reward for me, and this would be consistent with how style pages work in every other aspect of the game (monster masks, event style pages, etc.)

So no, I am not happy with getting half a dozen style pages I don’t want and can’t sell.

Nah - it's the same thing as the consumables for the mount, pet, body/face markings, etc. I'm all for it and think they look great and I'd rather have more cosmetics that you have to earn rather than just being able to buy them with gold and never playing the content personally

STYLE PAGES have never been this way. If you got them as drops you could use them yourself or sell them. And mounts, pets, body markings etc. are not drops but achievement rewards. The style pages could be earned only — totally fine with that — make them bind on pickup and only purchasable with Archival currency. But remove them as drops or reduce the frequency.

Correct, but again, virtually all rewards in IA, outside of furnishing plans, are already like this, so it makes sense to me

tomofhyrule

I've only done one IA run since these started dropping, and I got zero pages to drop by the time I got bored in Arc 4.

But really, my desire to farm these pages is absolutely nil.

I was so excited to farm them last patch, and I actually saved my Fortunes specifically so I could buy them all as they dropped. I love the fashion endgame. But the fact that they changed from style pages (that we had in U40) to this idiotic class-restricted-and-keeps-the-stupid-VFX-even-though-you-don't-have-the-set was such a monumentally stupid decision that goes against everything this game is about in terms of 'do what you want' has just turned me off of them completely. Not like I was going to use any of them in any outfits (not even the NB mask), but it's the principle of the thing.

"but but but... we need class identity!"
Yes, and I'm sure the all the necros are very happy that their class identity is now that they can wear a belt with a purple gem, and not using Blastbones. And I know all templars will consider a knightly closed helm as their identity instead of a spear-of-light. At least NBs are still satisified since they can make their body glow red to match their weapons now...

When people say "class identity," they mean the skills/buffs etc that they can provide. Not the restricted fashions. The fact that these were previewable on all characters without effects and no class restrictions before U41 also makes it feel like we got something taken away from us.

I don't want to say that that single decision has pretty well nuked my desire to do IA again... but it totally has.

Dagoth_Rac

Unhappy

Considering there are 259(!) style pages, the drop rates are abysmal. It is one thing to have lousy drop rates for skeever paws where you need 25. But horrible drop rates on something with 259 pages??

tsaescishoeshiner

Unhappy

The style page droprate is a bit low, but you only need them once, so I think it'll even out.

The furnishing prices in the Archive vendor cost way too many Fortunes. Paying 15k Fortunes for a one-time Monster helm/shoulder piece unlock goes so much farther than paying that much for just one furnishing.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Unhappy

tomofhyrule wrote: »

I've only done one IA run since these started dropping, and I got zero pages to drop by the time I got bored in Arc 4.

But really, my desire to farm these pages is absolutely nil.

I was so excited to farm them last patch, and I actually saved my Fortunes specifically so I could buy them all as they dropped. I love the fashion endgame. But the fact that they changed from style pages (that we had in U40) to this idiotic class-restricted-and-keeps-the-stupid-VFX-even-though-you-don't-have-the-set was such a monumentally stupid decision that goes against everything this game is about in terms of 'do what you want' has just turned me off of them completely. Not like I was going to use any of them in any outfits (not even the NB mask), but it's the principle of the thing.

"but but but... we need class identity!"
Yes, and I'm sure the all the necros are very happy that their class identity is now that they can wear a belt with a purple gem, and not using Blastbones. And I know all templars will consider a knightly closed helm as their identity instead of a spear-of-light. At least NBs are still satisified since they can make their body glow red to match their weapons now...

When people say "class identity," they mean the skills/buffs etc that they can provide. Not the restricted fashions. The fact that these were previewable on all characters without effects and no class restrictions before U41 also makes it feel like we got something taken away from us.

I don't want to say that that single decision has pretty well nuked my desire to do IA again... but it totally has.

This. Even if the drop rate were better, because they are bad for a large amount of bound on pick up styles, I still don't feel like farming them because I can't use the styles on the characters I want.

Carcamongus

Unhappy

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Cooperharley wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

The style pages drop far more often than book furnishings or new furnishing plans, both of which I would very much prefer.

The style pages should not drop at all if they are going to be bind-on-pickup. If I could sell dropped ones, then at least it would be some reward for me, and this would be consistent with how style pages work in every other aspect of the game (monster masks, event style pages, etc.)

So no, I am not happy with getting half a dozen style pages I don’t want and can’t sell.

Nah - it's the same thing as the consumables for the mount, pet, body/face markings, etc. I'm all for it and think they look great and I'd rather have more cosmetics that you have to earn rather than just being able to buy them with gold and never playing the content personally

STYLE PAGES have never been this way. If you got them as drops you could use them yourself or sell them. And mounts, pets, body markings etc. are not drops but achievement rewards. The style pages could be earned only — totally fine with that — make them bind on pickup and only purchasable with Archival currency. But remove them as drops or reduce the frequency.

Style pages from Battlegrounds (Fanged Worm and so on) are also bind on pickup, though I can't remember if they're character-bound.

Ezhh

Unhappy

I'd say there's just too many issues to justify such a low drop rate.

• Sheer number of pages to collect.
• Certain classes do way better than others in IA, so I'm playing a class other than the ones I might want pages for.
• So many of the pages are generic/similar with a different symbol (the weapons), and these again pad out all the "unwanted" pages that will delay me getting those I want.
• Class locked is hugely demotivating. Some of the styles are really nicely made, while others are generic/bland/ugly.
• Class effect glow is something I really like, but it would have been so nice if this was a separate collectable cosmetic we could apply so that we have the freedom to use it with our own outfits. This would have meant people who want the styles without the glow can have them, and people who like the glow can have that.

Overall this could have been something really nice, but instead it's just a huge long grind for not much back.

BretonMage

Indifferent

Eh. I'm not overly interested in style pages, less so style pages I can't use or sell.

I really only got into IA for furnishing plans and companion gear. Now those we need higher drop rates for.

Avran_Sylt

Unhappy

I would be fine with the drop rates if it were more deterministic to acquire a particular piece. The mask that I wanted to get for my NB was unfortunately the 2nd last thing before the entire collection was completed, which took about 20 ish hours overall?. And since all my IA currency went towards the motif lootboxes the only thing I got from that was the mask. (I bought about 6 of them)

From an overall veteran gearing collectors (just collecting everything) standpoint I think the droprate is fine.

From a beginners gearing standpoint or targeted acquisition standpoint the droprate is atrocious.

Necrotech_Master

Indifferent

i kind of feel the drop rate in the archive is a little low (ive had like 2 drops out of 6-8 runs in the past week)

the prices to buy the boxes is far too high especially if they are all account bound anyway, as buying the boxes ends up just saving time farming them

i dont really understand why all of the stuff in archive is fully bound anyway, the collectible drops are all bound (and still drop after you finish the collectibles), the style pages are bound (even though its purely styling)

i can understand the actual class gear being bound, its not really different from a group dungeon gear

Araneae6537

Carcamongus wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Cooperharley wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

The style pages drop far more often than book furnishings or new furnishing plans, both of which I would very much prefer.

The style pages should not drop at all if they are going to be bind-on-pickup. If I could sell dropped ones, then at least it would be some reward for me, and this would be consistent with how style pages work in every other aspect of the game (monster masks, event style pages, etc.)

So no, I am not happy with getting half a dozen style pages I don’t want and can’t sell.

Nah - it's the same thing as the consumables for the mount, pet, body/face markings, etc. I'm all for it and think they look great and I'd rather have more cosmetics that you have to earn rather than just being able to buy them with gold and never playing the content personally

STYLE PAGES have never been this way. If you got them as drops you could use them yourself or sell them. And mounts, pets, body markings etc. are not drops but achievement rewards. The style pages could be earned only — totally fine with that — make them bind on pickup and only purchasable with Archival currency. But remove them as drops or reduce the frequency.

Style pages from Battlegrounds (Fanged Worm and so on) are also bind on pickup, though I can't remember if they're character-bound.

Oh really? I think you are right and I had forgotten. Since I actually did want to collect those pages, I guess I didn’t notice!

These, I wanted to just forget they exist when I learned the styles were to be class locked, but now they keep popping up in my face to annoy me.

It occurs to me that since these pages are character bound, I should stop receiving any once I have all of a particular set, right? That’s certainly an incentive to only play on my Dragonknight — 28 useless drops to go isn’t nearly as bad as 250!

Necrotech_Master

Indifferent

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Carcamongus wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Cooperharley wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

The style pages drop far more often than book furnishings or new furnishing plans, both of which I would very much prefer.

The style pages should not drop at all if they are going to be bind-on-pickup. If I could sell dropped ones, then at least it would be some reward for me, and this would be consistent with how style pages work in every other aspect of the game (monster masks, event style pages, etc.)

So no, I am not happy with getting half a dozen style pages I don’t want and can’t sell.

Nah - it's the same thing as the consumables for the mount, pet, body/face markings, etc. I'm all for it and think they look great and I'd rather have more cosmetics that you have to earn rather than just being able to buy them with gold and never playing the content personally

STYLE PAGES have never been this way. If you got them as drops you could use them yourself or sell them. And mounts, pets, body markings etc. are not drops but achievement rewards. The style pages could be earned only — totally fine with that — make them bind on pickup and only purchasable with Archival currency. But remove them as drops or reduce the frequency.

Style pages from Battlegrounds (Fanged Worm and so on) are also bind on pickup, though I can't remember if they're character-bound.

Oh really? I think you are right and I had forgotten. Since I actually did want to collect those pages, I guess I didn’t notice!

These, I wanted to just forget they exist when I learned the styles were to be class locked, but now they keep popping up in my face to annoy me.

It occurs to me that since these pages are character bound, I should stop receiving any once I have all of a particular set, right? That’s certainly an incentive to only play on my Dragonknight — 28 useless drops to go isn’t nearly as bad as 250!

the style pages curate in the same way the actual class set gear does

it curates to your current class, then starts to give you the pages for the other classes

so you will continue to see them until you get all of them

Carcamongus

Unhappy

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Carcamongus wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Cooperharley wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

The style pages drop far more often than book furnishings or new furnishing plans, both of which I would very much prefer.

The style pages should not drop at all if they are going to be bind-on-pickup. If I could sell dropped ones, then at least it would be some reward for me, and this would be consistent with how style pages work in every other aspect of the game (monster masks, event style pages, etc.)

So no, I am not happy with getting half a dozen style pages I don’t want and can’t sell.

Nah - it's the same thing as the consumables for the mount, pet, body/face markings, etc. I'm all for it and think they look great and I'd rather have more cosmetics that you have to earn rather than just being able to buy them with gold and never playing the content personally

STYLE PAGES have never been this way. If you got them as drops you could use them yourself or sell them. And mounts, pets, body markings etc. are not drops but achievement rewards. The style pages could be earned only — totally fine with that — make them bind on pickup and only purchasable with Archival currency. But remove them as drops or reduce the frequency.

Style pages from Battlegrounds (Fanged Worm and so on) are also bind on pickup, though I can't remember if they're character-bound.

Oh really? I think you are right and I had forgotten. Since I actually did want to collect those pages, I guess I didn’t notice!

These, I wanted to just forget they exist when I learned the styles were to be class locked, but now they keep popping up in my face to annoy me.

It occurs to me that since these pages are character bound, I should stop receiving any once I have all of a particular set, right? That’s certainly an incentive to only play on my Dragonknight — 28 useless drops to go isn’t nearly as bad as 250!

If I'm not mistaken, once you complete the set for your toon's class, pages for the other classes start dropping.

Araneae6537

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Carcamongus wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Cooperharley wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

The style pages drop far more often than book furnishings or new furnishing plans, both of which I would very much prefer.

The style pages should not drop at all if they are going to be bind-on-pickup. If I could sell dropped ones, then at least it would be some reward for me, and this would be consistent with how style pages work in every other aspect of the game (monster masks, event style pages, etc.)

So no, I am not happy with getting half a dozen style pages I don’t want and can’t sell.

Nah - it's the same thing as the consumables for the mount, pet, body/face markings, etc. I'm all for it and think they look great and I'd rather have more cosmetics that you have to earn rather than just being able to buy them with gold and never playing the content personally

STYLE PAGES have never been this way. If you got them as drops you could use them yourself or sell them. And mounts, pets, body markings etc. are not drops but achievement rewards. The style pages could be earned only — totally fine with that — make them bind on pickup and only purchasable with Archival currency. But remove them as drops or reduce the frequency.

Style pages from Battlegrounds (Fanged Worm and so on) are also bind on pickup, though I can't remember if they're character-bound.

Oh really? I think you are right and I had forgotten. Since I actually did want to collect those pages, I guess I didn’t notice!

These, I wanted to just forget they exist when I learned the styles were to be class locked, but now they keep popping up in my face to annoy me.

It occurs to me that since these pages are character bound, I should stop receiving any once I have all of a particular set, right? That’s certainly an incentive to only play on my Dragonknight — 28 useless drops to go isn’t nearly as bad as 250!

the style pages curate in the same way the actual class set gear does

it curates to your current class, then starts to give you the pages for the other classes

so you will continue to see them until you get all of them

Carcamongus wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Carcamongus wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Cooperharley wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

The style pages drop far more often than book furnishings or new furnishing plans, both of which I would very much prefer.

The style pages should not drop at all if they are going to be bind-on-pickup. If I could sell dropped ones, then at least it would be some reward for me, and this would be consistent with how style pages work in every other aspect of the game (monster masks, event style pages, etc.)

So no, I am not happy with getting half a dozen style pages I don’t want and can’t sell.

Nah - it's the same thing as the consumables for the mount, pet, body/face markings, etc. I'm all for it and think they look great and I'd rather have more cosmetics that you have to earn rather than just being able to buy them with gold and never playing the content personally

STYLE PAGES have never been this way. If you got them as drops you could use them yourself or sell them. And mounts, pets, body markings etc. are not drops but achievement rewards. The style pages could be earned only — totally fine with that — make them bind on pickup and only purchasable with Archival currency. But remove them as drops or reduce the frequency.

Style pages from Battlegrounds (Fanged Worm and so on) are also bind on pickup, though I can't remember if they're character-bound.

Oh really? I think you are right and I had forgotten. Since I actually did want to collect those pages, I guess I didn’t notice!

These, I wanted to just forget they exist when I learned the styles were to be class locked, but now they keep popping up in my face to annoy me.

It occurs to me that since these pages are character bound, I should stop receiving any once I have all of a particular set, right? That’s certainly an incentive to only play on my Dragonknight — 28 useless drops to go isn’t nearly as bad as 250!

If I'm not mistaken, once you complete the set for your toon's class, pages for the other classes start dropping.

Well that sucks, but good to know. Thank you both for the information!

NyassaV

Unhappy

The prices is whatever, but the drop rate sucks.

Dragonnord

Happy

They are easy. Since there are a lot (literal) of things to get from IA, we are supposed to play a lot of IA, not just a few runs.

So those pages will come naturally from just playing, don't worry.
 

inf.toniceb17_ESO

Indifferent

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Considering there are 259(!) style pages, the drop rates are abysmal. It is one thing to have lousy drop rates for skeever paws where you need 25. But horrible drop rates on something with 259 pages??

Wait, how is it 259? 17 pages per class, 7 classes so 119 pages total

ESO_player123

Indifferent

I voted indifferent since I'm no longer interested in these pages after they were made class bound. What I'm not happy about is the drop rate of the new furnishing plans.

Araneae6537

I think the poll options should have been along the lines of too high, too low, just right, indifferent

FabresFour

Happy

I already have practically all the nightblade outfit pieces in 4/5 runs within the archive going up to about arc 3/4. I find it very easy and very fun.

jcaceresw

Unhappy

It has been about 5 days without seeing any other style page. When it was released I got about 3 style pages. From there haven't found another one. Completed the new mythic leads, at least.

sharquez

Unhappy

Specifically, regarding the style pages They could stand to drop more often, as could everything else like furnishings. I would love either of the Filers to sell furnishing recipes or boxes of recipes however they see fit to price or distribute them. Just having a finite goal to reach to know you are going to get something nice helps keep me interested. I know they want to keep us grinding but the content is stale and needs more variety. We need more environments, configurations of enemies, challenges, bosses, and sets. Hopefully, we see some more coming with the chapter.