Does the poisoned status count as an execute?

ItsNotLiving

Can a DK proc Sheer Venom with its poison dots?

Entaro

Poison itself is not the Poisoned status effect. Also, no, the poisoned status effect does not proc sheer venom despite the change where it now has execute scaling damage.

Necrotech_Master

no idea, usually status effects dont tend to proc gear sets, as the status effect itself is usually considered a proc (of course like always there are sometimes oddities that get around this)

technically speaking any class running lethal arrow morph of snipe applies guaranteed poison status effect, though i would usually get a proc of sheer venom from poison injection

Vaqual

sheer venom procs off abilities, the poison dot is not an ability

hypnoticbeast

You will want Venomous Smite. I have used it for years. It always procs the poison stat effect not just the hunter's venom. The damage comes out to about the same a nirn. Test it out live, and then in the TSE. That and one poison skill or enchantment should keep your Poison stat effect up times high. It will most likely replace Nirn when people realize that the Eviscerate vamp skill now can proc the new Hemorrhage stat effect AT WILL and keep it's (the Hemorrhage) stack's up at all times. Meaning that a Vampire will be able to keep BOTH up with an 85% or higher up time. Yikes! The only thing now is to figure out where you want your burning to come from and that should do it for max dps. (I hope).

Panderbander

Wouldn't it be amazing if poisoned procced Sheer Venom which procced poisoned which procced Sheer Venom which procced poisoned which procced........

Necrotech_Master

hypnoticbeast wrote: »

You will want Venomous Smite. I have used it for years. It always procs the poison stat effect not just the hunter's venom. The damage comes out to about the same a nirn. Test it out live, and then in the TSE. That and one poison skill or enchantment should keep your Poison stat effect up times high. It will most likely replace Nirn when people realize that the Eviscerate vamp skill now can proc the new Hemorrhage stat effect AT WILL and keep it's (the Hemorrhage) stack's up at all times. Meaning that a Vampire will be able to keep BOTH up with an 85% or higher up time. Yikes! The only thing now is to figure out where you want your burning to come from and that should do it for max dps. (I hope).

ele sus already supplies burning, chilled and concussed every 7.5 seconds (burning is 4 seconds, and applies 5 times over the full duration (once on cast, and then 4 more times, the 4th time being when ele sus itself expires))

so 20 sec of burning for 1 cast of ele sus (assuming your not running serpents disdain, which actually could make ele sus stronger with 20 sec duration status effects, because of the concussed bonus of procing when concussed is active)

hypnoticbeast

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

hypnoticbeast wrote: »

You will want Venomous Smite. I have used it for years. It always procs the poison stat effect not just the hunter's venom. The damage comes out to about the same a nirn. Test it out live, and then in the TSE. That and one poison skill or enchantment should keep your Poison stat effect up times high. It will most likely replace Nirn when people realize that the Eviscerate vamp skill now can proc the new Hemorrhage stat effect AT WILL and keep it's (the Hemorrhage) stack's up at all times. Meaning that a Vampire will be able to keep BOTH up with an 85% or higher up time. Yikes! The only thing now is to figure out where you want your burning to come from and that should do it for max dps. (I hope).

ele sus already supplies burning, chilled and concussed every 7.5 seconds (burning is 4 seconds, and applies 5 times over the full duration (once on cast, and then 4 more times, the 4th time being when ele sus itself expires))

so 20 sec of burning for 1 cast of ele sus (assuming your not running serpents disdain, which actually could make ele sus stronger with 20 sec duration status effects, because of the concussed bonus of procing when concussed is active)

That is very true if you are using a staff and Blockade. You can also use Elemental Weapon with a shock glyph to get the same effect all be it for a single target since the glyph will proc off balance on impact. That is if you are more inclined for CQC fighting. Use Daggers with poison AND shock. Now think about Using ZAAN with the above. It (ZAAN) will cover your Burning, VS and a bow and or daggers will cover poison, and Elemental Weapon with a shock glyph for that big Ol concussed boost. Non vamps can still get Hemorrhage from Trap and Twin slash's. I wonder if this is going to affect the Vaatashran's Wrath of elements staff. It still keyed to do only "Effect damage" hence why you cannot refresh the beam. I am just wondering if it will increase the damage of said beam because it is supplying extra DPS to those EXACT effects.

i11ionward

Vaqual wrote: »

sheer venom procs off abilities, the poison dot is not an ability

Right now on the live server, Sheer Venom is triggered by the DoT effect of the Poison Injection ability. If now Poisoned status effect count an execut, then it would be logical for Sheer Venom to also trigger from the Poisoned DoT.

Vaqual

i11ionward wrote: »

Vaqual wrote: »

sheer venom procs off abilities, the poison dot is not an ability

Right now on the live server, Sheer Venom is triggered by the DoT effect of the Poison Injection ability. If now Poisoned status effect count an execut, then it would be logical for Sheer Venom to also trigger from the Poisoned DoT.

The sticky DoT of Injection is still part of the ability, like when Soul Trap ticks proc Oblivion's Foe.