Jubilee Style Pages Are Character Bound

MafiaCat115 · February 13

Since I was curious about these pages, a guildie and I farmed Vvardenfell world bosses to see how long it would take to get either the Barbas Wolf Helmet Replica or the Sunna'rah Replica. After 25 world bosses, we got one page between the two of us; the Barbas helmet. It was on run #25, and it is character bound. That leaves me with a few questions:

Are all of the new non-Earthbone pages character bound?
Why are they character bound?
If they're character bound, does that at least curate drops so you don't get dupes for the Vvardenfell pages?
Can we get a boost for the drop rates?
And if the drop rate will be so low, can the pages at least be permanent additions so we can get them outside of the Jubilee event?

Going off of this thread, it seems like all of these special pages have very low drop rates (Thank you @dragonlord500 for going after the Dolmens!). I hope that they are raised before the Jubilee goes live, or that the pages are made to be that you can buy them from guild stores/the Impresario.

To anyone else page hunting, can you confirm if the other pages are character bound?

GooGa592 · February 13

Yikes! I sure hope this changes when it goes live.

tomofhyrule · February 13

oh.

oh no.

If these are bound, please increase the drop rates. Otherwise, make them sellable.

Aliyavana · February 13

wish they had implemented these in the little pts crates so they let us preview them without needing to farm them. the trueflame one is rare

dragonlord500 · February 13

I got the Staff of worms after nearly 300 anchors. it can also be dyed if people want to.

fizzylu · February 14

So they're celebrating the games anniversary by making players have to put in some extra EXTRA work? Bit questionable, I'd say.

tsaescishoeshiner · February 14

Do any of the weapon styles have particle/glow effects like an Undaunted Arms Pack, or do they just light up with your weapon enchant like a motif weapon?

Any pictures would be awesome--curious to know how much is worth farming but 300 anchors on PTS sounds like a lot!

ApoAlaia · February 14

Given that there a multiple pages, each with a low to very low (according to their wording, wish they gave us figures instead) chance to drop from completely different activities this is IMO suboptimal.

How about letting us have fun with the activities we prefer and then do a bit of bartering/trading for the pages that drop from activities that we may not favour as much?

Is that such an outlandish proposition?

notyuu · February 14

Unless ZoS wish to exclude a majority of the playerbase that has these things known as "Real Life Responsibilities" such as a job, they are going to NEED to make the pages tradable

@ZOS_Kevin

WhiteCoatSyndrome · February 14

Gotta say I am also not keen on these being bound.

fizzylu wrote: »

So they're celebrating the games anniversary by making players have to put in some extra EXTRA work? Bit questionable, I'd say.

The worst part is this is for the Anniversary Event as opposed to say…the Jester Event. Anniversary is ALREADY super busy trying to cram in as many dailies as possible, there are more than enough dailies in the game now to keep a person busy their whole play time, without adding extra activities on top of that.

The only thing close to a silver lining I see is that there are some dailies associated with some of the page drops, like the Fighter’s Guild for the Dolmens. But that leaves out fishing up Trueflame.

KlauthWarthog · February 14

They did state that the Trueflame replica had an extremely low drop rate.
Given the context, I am inclined to believe the others on that list will have an extremely low drop rate as well.

I am not inclined to grind a glorified lottery, so... I'll pass.
Again.

EF321 · February 14

dragonlord500 wrote: »

I got the Staff of worms after nearly 300 anchors. it can also be dyed if people want to.

If rates are this low, pages should be tradable.
If they are bound, drop rates should be much more generous.

colossalvoids · February 14

If those are going live every jubilee and not just this one I'm fine with it personally.

RetPing · February 14

If this is their idea of a celebration with their loyal playerbase lmao
Must be time to move on and find another game to play soon

CameraBeardThePirate · February 14

Um, being character bound doesn't mean you'll have to farm it on every character. It just means you won't be able to move the page around - if you use the page it'll still be available to use on your other characters.

RetPing · February 14

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Um, being character bound doesn't mean you'll have to farm it on every character. It just means you won't be able to move the page around - if you use the page it'll still be available to use on your other characters.

But you can't sell/buy them.
Any other style page you could.

CameraBeardThePirate · February 14

RetPing wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Um, being character bound doesn't mean you'll have to farm it on every character. It just means you won't be able to move the page around - if you use the page it'll still be available to use on your other characters.

But you can't sell/buy them.
Any other style page you could.

I mean tbf, so what? It's a special anniversary item. ZOS wants players to actually play the content, not just log in and buy the special items then log back out. There are so many things that can be bought/traded in this game, I don't really see the issue with a special event item that needs to be farmed.

Should the drop rate be a little more forgiving? Absolutely, but all things considered, you don't have to farm for a whole lot in this game compared to other MMOs.

ApoAlaia · February 14

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

RetPing wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Um, being character bound doesn't mean you'll have to farm it on every character. It just means you won't be able to move the page around - if you use the page it'll still be available to use on your other characters.

But you can't sell/buy them.
Any other style page you could.

I mean tbf, so what? It's a special anniversary item. ZOS wants players to actually play the content, not just log in and buy the special items then log back out. There are so many things that can be bought/traded in this game, I don't really see the issue with a special event item that needs to be farmed.

Should the drop rate be a little more forgiving? Absolutely, but all things considered, you don't have to farm for a whole lot in this game compared to other MMOs.

Precisely.

Is the FOMO trifecta: account bound, limited time, scarce. I don't think 'holding players hostage' is the healthiest approach to 'promoting engagement'.

RetPing · February 14

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

RetPing wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Um, being character bound doesn't mean you'll have to farm it on every character. It just means you won't be able to move the page around - if you use the page it'll still be available to use on your other characters.

But you can't sell/buy them.
Any other style page you could.

I mean tbf, so what? It's a special anniversary item. ZOS wants players to actually play the content, not just log in and buy the special items then log back out. There are so many things that can be bought/traded in this game, I don't really see the issue with a special event item that needs to be farmed.

Should the drop rate be a little more forgiving? Absolutely, but all things considered, you don't have to farm for a whole lot in this game compared to other MMOs.

You want to farm it? Farm it. No one is taking away your choice.
I already do boring thing at work, don't want to do them in a game to get something.
Dark anchors, really? I have already destroyed hundreds of them, not really interested in destroiyng more to get some style page.

if they way of keeping people in game is to promote boring and repetitve content, sorry but I am out.
If they want people to play content, give me something interesting to do and I will do it.

Once I've done 47 HM run of unallowed grave to get the moster mask style page because I liked it.
Guess what? No drop. That was the day I decided to stop grind here. Sorry but I have a dignity and I will not lose it for a game.

CrazyKitty · February 14

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

RetPing wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Um, being character bound doesn't mean you'll have to farm it on every character. It just means you won't be able to move the page around - if you use the page it'll still be available to use on your other characters.

But you can't sell/buy them.
Any other style page you could.

I mean tbf, so what? It's a special anniversary item. ZOS wants players to actually play the content, not just log in and buy the special items then log back out. There are so many things that can be bought/traded in this game, I don't really see the issue with a special event item that needs to be farmed.

Should the drop rate be a little more forgiving? Absolutely, but all things considered, you don't have to farm for a whole lot in this game compared to other MMOs.

Well, you can't blame people for feeling ZOS is being restrictive when that's how things are structured.

ESO_player123 · February 14

So they are character bound as opposite to account bound? So, If I accidentally get the drop on the character that I do not want to use the style on, it's completely useless? What is the point then?

Soarora · February 14

ESO_player123 wrote: »

So they are character bound as opposite to account bound? So, If I accidentally get the drop on the character that I do not want to use the style on, it's completely useless? What is the point then?

Style pages are account wide and do not influence writ drops, making them not matter at all what character you use them on.

I do agree with the notion that these should be year-round and sellable or increased chance. I’m more inclined to the former but I don’t think its fair to have difficult grinds for multiple items within the event only.

ESO_player123 · February 14

Soarora wrote: »

ESO_player123 wrote: »

So they are character bound as opposite to account bound? So, If I accidentally get the drop on the character that I do not want to use the style on, it's completely useless? What is the point then?

Style pages are account wide and do not influence writ drops, making them not matter at all what character you use them on.

I do agree with the notion that these should be year-round and sellable or increased chance. I’m more inclined to the former but I don’t think its fair to have difficult grinds for multiple items within the event only.

I was confused by "character bound" written on the page. When that is the case with other items, it means I cannot share them with other toons on the same account. If an item cannot be sold, it usually has just "Bound" written on it.

But if the page is account wide that is ok then.

I agree with other folks that a rare drop item should not be limited to an event. I'm definitely not going to farm 300 dolmens during an event.

freespirit · February 14

Make them a rare drop but tradeable or a more common drop and bound, making them very rare and bound is ridiculous!

ZoS must know from their data that many players are happy to continuosly farm any certain dungeon for Mask Style Pages, either to use or to sell on.... other players choose not to do this and instead pay a high price for someone elses work.

This formula benefits everyone why would they mess with it???

Ezhh · February 14

This is extremely disappointing. I'd really love some of these styles, but the thought of engaging for hours on end with some of the most boring activities in game, and meanwhile having to miss out on what I enjoy, to maybe (even probably given some of the numbers people have stated) walk away empty handed, feels more like something that might just break my interest in the game completely.

How is "here grind dolmens/fishing" for hours a celebration of ten years of ESO?

Please let us have fun earning these.

MafiaCat115 · February 14

I hope someone can get a Trueflame page and tell us just how rare it is. I wonder if it is a similar rarity to the world boss and dolmen pages, or if we're looking at the next Morrowind Banner-level rare item. Maybe overexaggerating, but maybe not if the pages are only going to be during this Jubilee while also being an "extremely small chance".

Shagreth · February 15

Good. I sure hope this doesn't change. It's ok ESO people, not everything has to get handed to us on a silver platter.

fizzylu · February 15

Shagreth wrote: »

Good. I sure hope this doesn't change. It's ok ESO people, not everything has to get handed to us on a silver platter.

But barely anything does....? Considering the majority of worthwhile cosmetics/collectibles in this game are locked behind a cash shop, and even worse, cash RNG boxes.... there is no reason why the few cool things that are actually earnable by playing should have abysmally low drop rates AND be bound.
For example, in the five months I've been doing the ToT dailies almost every day.... I've gotten 2 fragments of the card conjuring emote and 1 for the Captain Kaleen houseguest (both out of ten). I do think this is a bit ridiculous, but since it's not a limited time thing I won't complain.... but taking limited time rewards from a limited time event and making them nearly impossible for the majority of players to get, all in the name of a celebration? That's just sad and honestly makes me question what Zenimax wants from it's players.
Now, if these things were actually EARNABLE in the sense of ACCOMPLISHING a very specific thing.... I'd get it. But they're not. They're following the same overworked formula of things being rewarded from RNG drops that Zenimax seems to love. This is a huge problem ESO has and just because someone might feel special because they got real lucky or farmed their life away to get something barely anyone else has.... well, that doesn't change the problem within the big picture.

spartaxoxo · February 16

So, these cool new things are going to be awful time sinks that kill the point of any other activity during the event?

That's pretty much the opposite of player appreciation imo. Sad to see for the 10th anniversary.

DagothCorvia · February 16

I keep the idea of increasing a bit the drop chances if you have achievements like, for example, doing the main quest/Cadwell's Gold, Savior of Morrowind achievement, etc.

FluffyBird · February 16

Shagreth wrote: »

Good. I sure hope this doesn't change. It's ok ESO people, not everything has to get handed to us on a silver platter.

Nothing is "handed" to players. Every event lately is a horrible unrewarding grind, which turns what should be a celebration with gifts into a job with a chance of payment.
If you want to suffer - suffer, but don't make other players join you.