Sutch

w002exp

I completely forgot about this city (Sutch) which was supposed to appear in ES4 Oblivion but was cut last minute before release. I was reviewing a UESP article on Skingrad in anticipation of the upcoming DLC when it mentioned Sutch. If we do indeed go back to the Gold Coast, I wonder if we are going to see what was supposed to be a thriving metropolis. Notably, UESP mentions there is a fair amount of activity related to Sutch during the Planemeld including visits by Jorunn in his youth.

LunaFlora

it would be nice to be able to visit Sutch in eso.
i love it when chapters have more than 1 city.

it could become a public dungeon though as that happened with Orcrest and Sunhold too.

HappyTheCamper

It’s also cool because Sutch can be seen from ESO’s Gold Coast (I think anyway.)

Also, each city in Cyrodiil was dedicated to a divine except Kynareth. Sutch was apparently meant to hold a chapel to Kynareth. If they added that they could maybe add the chapel or a destroyed ruined version or something.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

This may be the map area of the West Weald, if so, then Sutch should be there.



Because this is Sutch's location:



But it's not the first time ESO has changed or even removed cities. Like Blacklight and the Velothi Mountains no longer exist because Eastmarch is there now.

MaisonNaevius

Sutch might appear. I think the developers are aware of the wait about this city...

I am one of those who would like Sutch to be represented as he should have been originally in TES IV.
But I am aware that it is impossible.

In TES IV, Sutch would have had its own structures. And the city is a city, therefore large as a county capital.

In ESO however, each region only has one major city. The other towns are small. For an Imperial example, look at Gideon. (I will not mention Gold Coast because I consider that it is still part of the base game in its design).

The only way for Sutch to be a great city is for it to be sacrificed in a public dungeon.

jaekobcaed

I wouldn't be upset if it doesn't appear but I hope it does, even if it's significantly smaller than Skingrad. There was a mod for Oblivion back in the day that added Sutch back into the game but for some reason, it just didn't feel right to me. Hopefully ZOS gave it a lot of thought and implemented it well if it is there at all.

ThelerisTelvanni

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

This may be the map area of the West Weald, if so, then Sutch should be there.



Because this is Sutch's location:



But it's not the first time ESO has changed or even removed cities. Like Blacklight and the Velothi Mountains no longer exist because Eastmarch is there now.

The last screenshot look like the map in TES4 Oblivion. Is that from a mod?

KingArthasMenethil

ThelerisTelvanni wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

This may be the map area of the West Weald, if so, then Sutch should be there.



Because this is Sutch's location:



But it's not the first time ESO has changed or even removed cities. Like Blacklight and the Velothi Mountains no longer exist because Eastmarch is there now.

The last screenshot look like the map in TES4 Oblivion. Is that from a mod?

It looks like it is based off the E3 background thing which is still actually in the files for TES4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yyp7xoOqxYo

LunaFlora

it is in West Weald.
it's a little town, but is crowded with a vampire gang called the Terrors for the quest there.

Calastir

HappyTheCamper wrote: »

It’s also cool because Sutch can be seen from ESO’s Gold Coast (I think anyway.)

Not as far as I can tell. I walked all along Sutch's northen wall in the Gold Coast and climbed to the top of the Colovian Revolt Forge Yard tower along it's western side to get the best view over the wall, but could not see Drad Estate, the Sutch Gatehouse or the town itself for that matter, just grass and rocks for now. When the Gold Road Chapter arrives, I assume we can pass the Gold Coast Northern Gate at the point where the wall curves to the north.

Nissowolf

Don't worry

Sutch WILL appear. I have seen it on PTS

NotaDaedraWorshipper

ThelerisTelvanni wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

This may be the map area of the West Weald, if so, then Sutch should be there.



Because this is Sutch's location:



But it's not the first time ESO has changed or even removed cities. Like Blacklight and the Velothi Mountains no longer exist because Eastmarch is there now.

The last screenshot look like the map in TES4 Oblivion. Is that from a mod?

@ThelerisTelvanni Sutch was supposed to be in TES4 but was cut because of restrictions and resources. If I remember correctly this is an unused map from that cut, which has ended up being used in mods that adds Sutch.

Nissowolf wrote: »

Don't worry

Sutch WILL appear. I have seen it on PTS

That's good.

Mephilis78

Wasn't it included as a ruined fort, or was that a mod?

colossalvoids

Mephilis78 wrote: »

Wasn't it included as a ruined fort, or was that a mod?

It was a base game for sure as a part of a quest. But that's about it sadly.

ArchMikem

"Thriving Metropolis".