Edit: Looks like Monolith of Storms Crits Now.... but the Set is Still Terribad

acastanza_ESO · October 2023

Just what the heck ZOS. The set is straight garbage.
If you're a Sorc, just don't even bother running Endless Archive.
Even if it could crit it is still garbage as we've explained over and over and over, but seriously even the fix you were talking about last PTS patch didn't materialize.
Just come out an tell us directly that Sorcerer isn't intended to be a playable class anymore.

(Edited title because hasn't been confirmed on PTS, just the absence of a patch note confirming if the previous week's "potential" fix was implemented or not).

Edit 2: Oh boy it can crit now, and is still not worth running.

MashmalloMan · October 2023

What the hell is going on.. why is there 0 communication or adjustments for this set despite constant feedback? It's the worst set of the 7. Completely unusable.

My standards were already low for what they'd change, and they literally did nothing.

Looks like it won't even work on launch lol.

ZhuJiuyin · October 2023

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Monolith of Storms died before it was officially launched, and they didn't even dare mention crit hit fixes.
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[edited for bashing]

RaptorRodeoGod · October 2023

It's possible they forgot the note for it, we'd have to test to be sure when the PTS comes back up. That being said, with no other changes, Monolith is officially crapola, DOA 👎

MashmalloMan · October 2023

RaptorRodeoGod wrote: »

It's possible they forgot the note for it, we'd have to test to be sure when the PTS comes back up. That being said, with no other changes, Monolith is officially crapola, DOA 👎

Have a feeling thats the case because they mentioned reducing Templars regen on the set in the comments, but no actual note on the change.

Still doesn't matter, critting was the least of the sets concerns.

UsualSurrender · October 2023

MashmalloMan wrote: »

RaptorRodeoGod wrote: »

It's possible they forgot the note for it, we'd have to test to be sure when the PTS comes back up. That being said, with no other changes, Monolith is officially crapola, DOA 👎

Have a feeling thats the case because they mentioned reducing Templars regen on the set in the comments, but no actual note on the change.

Still doesn't matter, critting was the least of the sets concerns.

I think they meant that the regen is decreased by the fact that we can now have only up to 40 stacks and not 50 (which effectively reduces the regen)

MashmalloMan · October 2023

UsualSurrender wrote: »

MashmalloMan wrote: »

RaptorRodeoGod wrote: »

It's possible they forgot the note for it, we'd have to test to be sure when the PTS comes back up. That being said, with no other changes, Monolith is officially crapola, DOA 👎

Have a feeling thats the case because they mentioned reducing Templars regen on the set in the comments, but no actual note on the change.

Still doesn't matter, critting was the least of the sets concerns.

I think they meant that the regen is decreased by the fact that we can now have only up to 40 stacks and not 50 (which effectively reduces the regen)

Brilliant..

Okay nevermind, they just forgot about Sorc for the 100th time in 5 years.

But hey.. at least I get minor berserk/force from Dark Deal and hp scaling shields. Exactly what every Sorc asked for!

RaptorRodeoGod · October 2023

MashmalloMan wrote: »

UsualSurrender wrote: »

MashmalloMan wrote: »

RaptorRodeoGod wrote: »

It's possible they forgot the note for it, we'd have to test to be sure when the PTS comes back up. That being said, with no other changes, Monolith is officially crapola, DOA 👎

Have a feeling thats the case because they mentioned reducing Templars regen on the set in the comments, but no actual note on the change.

Still doesn't matter, critting was the least of the sets concerns.

I think they meant that the regen is decreased by the fact that we can now have only up to 40 stacks and not 50 (which effectively reduces the regen)

Brilliant..

Okay nevermind, they just forgot about Sorc for the 100th time in 5 years.

But hey.. at least I get minor berserk/force from Dark Deal and hp scaling shields. Exactly what every Sorc asked for!

Change forgot to neglected and you're spot on lol

UsualSurrender · October 2023

Sorc set is currently useless, templars need to sacrifice half their magicka for an average (but thematic) proc, necros still wonder what they're meant to do with their set...
What an interesting PTS cycle.

ESO_CenturionPlayer · October 2023

Adding proc crit would not be enough to make this set worthwhile.

The design and mechanics of the set make it undesirable.

Galeriano · October 2023

At this point it's hard to even belive it's happening. This set and dev's behaviour during PTS cycle is one of the biggest middle fingers shown to the playerbase that ZoS ever did. It's like they are saying to us with a smile on their faces that they know it sucks and they will not do anything about it.

ESO_CenturionPlayer · October 2023

Galeriano wrote: »

At this point it's hard to even belive it's happening. This set and dev's behaviour during PTS cycle is one of the biggest middle fingers shown to the playerbase that ZoS ever did. It's like they are saying to us with a smile on their faces that they know it sucks and they will not do anything about it.

As a Sorc main I have seen the middle finger from Dev’s almost every patch for years.

Quethrosar · October 2023

something that would be worthwhile is a set that made mage fury work at a higher % like 50 like daggers get.

Tannus15 · October 2023

I'm pretty sure the crit issue is fixed. it's no longer listed in the known issues section like it was last week, while the line of sight issue still is. i'll confirm on PTS later, but i'm pretty sure that's it.

as expected they fixed the crit and called it done.
the set is dead on arrival.
the only thing left to do is work out which class you want to run EA on because running it on sorc is a waste of time.

ESO_CenturionPlayer · October 2023

i think the whole thing is a waste of time at this point. it’s turning into ToT 2.0. most of us won’t even mess with it.

MashmalloMan · October 2023

Tannus15 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure the crit issue is fixed. it's no longer listed in the known issues section like it was last week, while the line of sight issue still is. i'll confirm on PTS later, but i'm pretty sure that's it.

as expected they fixed the crit and called it done.
the set is dead on arrival.
the only thing left to do is work out which class you want to run EA on because running it on sorc is a waste of time.

True. Good call. Keep refreshing to test too.

Just noticed this part:

Included are several additional bug fixes for Endless Archive and a few remaining adjustments for Class Sets; please note the known issues listed below, which will be present at launch and fixed in an upcoming incremental patch.

I'm sorry, this is really sad. While I have already written off the PTS as I know nothing major can come before launch, a part of me thought they would at least fix some of the game breaking bugs of the sets they know about for launch.

You're telling me they're launching Monolith as a set that can avoid line of sight

It's gotten to a point where my frustration may be turning into pitty. Pitty for the 2 devs stuck creating content for this game, while all their peers work on their new shiny MMO. It's the only logical conclusion I can come up with for this lack of polish. How does it take 6 weeks to fix the core selling feature of the new content you spent 1-2 years on? If the class sets aren't good, there is no point in doing EA. Period.

acastanza_ESO · October 2023

Tannus15 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure the crit issue is fixed. it's no longer listed in the known issues section like it was last week, while the line of sight issue still is. i'll confirm on PTS later, but i'm pretty sure that's it.

as expected they fixed the crit and called it done.
the set is dead on arrival.
the only thing left to do is work out which class you want to run EA on because running it on sorc is a waste of time.

Could be, or they decided their "preliminary fix" wasn't implementable.
Last week they said:

I'd argue a "won't fix" "resolution" is equally likely. But you'd think they'd just say so if it was fixed.

Tannus15 · October 2023

It's entirely possible that they decided not critting is working as intended so it no longer need to be mentioned as a known issue but also doesn't get mentioned as a fix.

Tannus15 · October 2023

ESO_CenturionPlayer wrote: »

i think the whole thing is a waste of time at this point. it’s turning into ToT 2.0. most of us won’t even mess with it.

EA is a fun time. it's cool duo content and there are a bunch of nice rewards you can get doing it.

But as far as the sets go, unless you're doing it for *** and giggles, don't do it on a sorc.

Templar or DK maybe?
The warden set changes are really good.
The nightblade one is really mid. I could see running it in content like EA where you are happy to sacrifice some overall damage to increase healing.
The necro set is a good selfish tanking set I guess?

MashmalloMan · October 2023

Just checked on PTS, it does crit now.

Yayyyyyy.... /s

MashmalloMan · October 2023

Tannus15 wrote: »

ESO_CenturionPlayer wrote: »

i think the whole thing is a waste of time at this point. it’s turning into ToT 2.0. most of us won’t even mess with it.

EA is a fun time. it's cool duo content and there are a bunch of nice rewards you can get doing it.

But as far as the sets go, unless you're doing it for *** and giggles, don't do it on a sorc.

Templar or DK maybe?
The warden set changes are really good.
The nightblade one is really mid. I could see running it in content like EA where you are happy to sacrifice some overall damage to increase healing.
The necro set is a good selfish tanking set I guess?

I'm guessing this is a pve perspective, because all your ?s are answered by using them in pvp.

ESO_CenturionPlayer · October 2023

if you play sorc 97% of the time, i’m guessing it’s not worth the rewards.

just like ToT isn’t worth the rewards for the time suck.

acastanza_ESO · October 2023

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Just checked on PTS, it does crit now.

Yayyyyyy.... /s

Thanks, updated title and OP.

RaptorRodeoGod · October 2023

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Just checked on PTS, it does crit now.

Yayyyyyy.... /s

Thanks, updated title and OP.

Anybody wanna parse with it and get a comparison to how it previously performed? I was able to consistently get around 3k dps from the proc before the crit fix

MashmalloMan · October 2023

RaptorRodeoGod wrote: »

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Just checked on PTS, it does crit now.

Yayyyyyy.... /s

Thanks, updated title and OP.

Anybody wanna parse with it and get a comparison to how it previously performed? I was able to consistently get around 3k dps from the proc before the crit fix

Set will realistically reach 5-6k dps, but it's not the whole picture because you have to sacrifice a pet. The set would have to deal 9-11k to keep up with what you give up which is obviously too much. The set either needs to be easy to proc from Hurricane alone or Sorcs kit needs a rework.

Either way, we knew a crit change wouldn't fix the sets problems week 1. Question is why ZOS thinks it does..

Tannus15 · October 2023

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Just checked on PTS, it does crit now.

Yayyyyyy.... /s

thanks for checking mate.

yeah, it's still rubbish. i really think they believe the issue with the set is just the raw damage and once they fixed the crit everyone would be happy...

RaptorRodeoGod · October 2023

Does anybody know if your monoliths can link to someone else's monoliths?

Tannus15 · October 2023

RaptorRodeoGod wrote: »

Does anybody know if your monoliths can link to someone else's monoliths?

that's a no

Tannus15 · October 2023

I haven't had the opportunity to get someone to jump into pts with me to test if 2 sorcs running it will block each other as per

can anyone confirm that the set can only be run by one sorc at a time?