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Let’s make the DK set pve only?
festegios
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Saw no end of complaining about the DK set, why don’t we just disable the archive sets from working in pvp?
Same as they made plaguebreak pvp only.
It could be a great set for some unique encounters such as vcr triple miniskip.
Same as they made plaguebreak pvp only.
It could be a great set for some unique encounters such as vcr triple miniskip.
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J18696✭✭✭✭✭How about we just finally nerf the real problem corrosive you can argue that high ult gen will result in essentially god tier sustain for dk but nearly everyone you ask why it would make dk to strong in pvp will tell you "they will just sit in corrosive 247" the ultimate is the real problemEdited by J18696 on September 19, 2023 3:09PM8 -
kojou✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I had the same thought. If the PvP players don't want nice things then just make them all PvE only and they can stick with the current meta.Playing since beta...1 -
XSTRONG✭✭✭✭✭PISTOLETVKREDIT wrote: »Who needs this set in PVE? Answer - no one.
I think a few would use it in pve, I dont play DK in pve but..0 -
Panderbander✭✭✭✭✭I had the same thought. If the PvP players don't want nice things then just make them all PvE only and they can stick with the current meta.
PVP players want nice things, we just don't want that nice thing to become the only thing.Leader of Lycan Syndicate, PC NA's tri-faction werewolf guild.~~~Played since the beta, got the monkey.~~~"The blood of the pack is now yours. They are your only family, your only allegiance!"5 -
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✭✭Panderbander wrote: »
I sincerely doubt it will become the only thing, but even if it does then at least it will be balanced, because everyone will be running the same build.
Playing since beta...1 -
Panderbander✭✭✭✭✭Panderbander wrote: »
I sincerely doubt it will become the only thing, but even if it does then at least it will be balanced, because everyone will be running the same build.
That's... not balance, and yes, this will become the meta where you play this or you spend all your time rezzing at a keep/base/spawn point. One just needs to look at how the entire PvP landscape has become dominated by vat destro/masters DW to see how an overperforming meta set up will suffocate out anything that isn't that meta.Leader of Lycan Syndicate, PC NA's tri-faction werewolf guild.~~~Played since the beta, got the monkey.~~~"The blood of the pack is now yours. They are your only family, your only allegiance!"2 -
festegios✭✭✭PISTOLETVKREDIT wrote: »Who needs this set in PVE? Answer - no one.
I can think of a number of instances where this set would be great.
Main tank on reef guardian in vdsr hm
Main tank on triple mini skip in vcr hm
Other score push strats. Especially if combined with the vestments0 -
festegios✭✭✭How about we just finally nerf the real problem corrosive you can argue that high ult gen will result in essentially god tier sustain for dk but nearly everyone you ask why it would make dk to strong in pvp will tell you "they will just sit in corrosive 247" the ultimate is the real problem
As long as they leave magma shel alone 🤣
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✭✭PISTOLETVKREDIT wrote: »Who needs this set in PVE? Answer - no one.
I can think of a number of instances where this set would be great.
Main tank on reef guardian in vdsr hm
Main tank on triple mini skip in vcr hm
Other score push strats. Especially if combined with the vestments
Bingo. Someone is paying attention here. This is already a topic of discussion in my raiding and score pushing guilds. If it should go live as is, trust me, we have come up with plenty of potential uses already 😉Edited by boi_anachronism_ on September 20, 2023 5:07AM0 -
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✭✭the main problem will be the decisive weapon trait with both major and minor heroism1 -
Panderbander✭✭✭✭✭How about we just finally nerf the real problem corrosive you can argue that high ult gen will result in essentially god tier sustain for dk but nearly everyone you ask why it would make dk to strong in pvp will tell you "they will just sit in corrosive 247" the ultimate is the real problem
As long as they leave magma shel alone 🤣
Magma Shell has never been a problem, at least in PvPLeader of Lycan Syndicate, PC NA's tri-faction werewolf guild.~~~Played since the beta, got the monkey.~~~"The blood of the pack is now yours. They are your only family, your only allegiance!"0 -
J18696✭✭✭✭✭The problem is literally just corrosive armor they need to either make it a defensive skill or a offensive skill it's pretty much a hey I take no dmg and ignore all your resistances lol button it's a serious problem once you allow really high uptime3
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Naftal✭✭✭✭✭Corrosive isn't the biggest problem with DK using ulti gain sets. The passive that gives you back health, stamina and magicka which directly scales from your ulti gain is.
They could just make you unable to get ulti while corrosive is up and change that passive into some other form of sustain that doesn't scale.1 -
festegios✭✭✭boi_anachronism_ wrote: »PISTOLETVKREDIT wrote: »Who needs this set in PVE? Answer - no one.
I can think of a number of instances where this set would be great.
Main tank on reef guardian in vdsr hm
Main tank on triple mini skip in vcr hm
Other score push strats. Especially if combined with the vestments
Bingo. Someone is paying attention here. This is already a topic of discussion in my raiding and score pushing guilds. If it should go live as is, trust me, we have come up with plenty of potential uses already 😉
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but almost every time a new set comes out. 99% of the complaints are from pvp players. It really wouldn’t hurt for this set to be kept as is for pve only.
Sure fix corrosive armor if that’s the best solution.1 -
silver1surfer69✭✭✭✭I had the same thought. If the PvP players don't want nice things then just make them all PvE only and they can stick with the current meta.
boooPC/EU
Starstréam - NB, Loveknight - HybridDK (4*), Stahlstrahlenreiter - StamDen, Azgul Grahl Bashrugk - HybridSorc (5*), Tínúvíél - StamCro, Thógard - StamPlar0 -
silver1surfer69✭✭✭✭this new class item set maybe will turn the current balance in pvp upside down. It may create a mess like the original oakensoul implementation back then. It was a sweet 1vx dream...PC/EU
Starstréam - NB, Loveknight - HybridDK (4*), Stahlstrahlenreiter - StamDen, Azgul Grahl Bashrugk - HybridSorc (5*), Tínúvíél - StamCro, Thógard - StamPlar0 -
madman65✭✭✭✭This set is a bad idea for PVP, not even a zerg just 8-10 gamers would be UNKILLABLE. Bad Idea!0 -
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✭✭boi_anachronism_ wrote: »PISTOLETVKREDIT wrote: »Who needs this set in PVE? Answer - no one.
I can think of a number of instances where this set would be great.
Main tank on reef guardian in vdsr hm
Main tank on triple mini skip in vcr hm
Other score push strats. Especially if combined with the vestments
Bingo. Someone is paying attention here. This is already a topic of discussion in my raiding and score pushing guilds. If it should go live as is, trust me, we have come up with plenty of potential uses already 😉
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but almost every time a new set comes out. 99% of the complaints are from pvp players. It really wouldn’t hurt for this set to be kept as is for pve only.
Sure fix corrosive armor if that’s the best solution.
Oh im well aware of this. Im actually not a fan of it going live it its current form. Im only saying if it did it absolutely would be useful for pve. I don't play dk, i don't like dks much to the disappointment of my raid teams. Should this go live my poor sorc would be even more outmatched then he is now.. and no i dont use the vat cheese build 😆Edited by boi_anachronism_ on September 21, 2023 1:34AM0 -
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✭silver1surfer69 wrote: »this new class item set maybe will turn the current balance in pvp upside down. It may create a mess like the original oakensoul implementation back then. It was a sweet 1vx dream...
One of the reasons Oakensoul was so op back then was sets like pre-nerf Plaguebreak where you could nuke whole groups. Oakensoul also gave you Major Berserk and Major Courage back then too.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Twohothardware wrote: »silver1surfer69 wrote: »this new class item set maybe will turn the current balance in pvp upside down. It may create a mess like the original oakensoul implementation back then. It was a sweet 1vx dream...
One of the reasons Oakensoul was so op back then was sets like pre-nerf Plaguebreak where you could nuke whole groups. Oakensoul also gave you Major Berserk and Major Courage back then too.
Even after nerf Plaguebreak is still blowing up groups.
Not to mention, the new Azureblight is arguably even better than pre-nerf Plaguebreak, as it also has scaling, can still proc off mobs, and doesn't require a kill to proc.0 -
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✭As a DK you don't have to crutch on corrosive as DK has many tricks in their kit.
If you do you haven't learned to play your class and adapt your build to PvP.
Edited by Four_Fingers on September 21, 2023 2:25PM0 -
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✭✭Twohothardware wrote: »silver1surfer69 wrote: »this new class item set maybe will turn the current balance in pvp upside down. It may create a mess like the original oakensoul implementation back then. It was a sweet 1vx dream...
One of the reasons Oakensoul was so op back then was sets like pre-nerf Plaguebreak where you could nuke whole groups. Oakensoul also gave you Major Berserk and Major Courage back then too.
sea serpents gives both of those buffs too and you get to use both skill bars.0