Azureblight lol

Dat

Seems uhm....working as intended? New zerg set confirmed

El_Borracho

When you deal damage with a damage over time effect, you apply a stack of Blight Seed to your target for 5 seconds. At 20 stacks, Blight Seed explodes, dealing 1565 Disease Damage to the target and nearby enemies, plus an additional 30% per enemy hit, up to 180%, scaling off the higher of your Weapon or Spell Damage. You can only trigger one explosion every 0.5 seconds. An enemy can only have one instance of Blight Seed at a time.

The recap seems to indicate you might have been in a group of your own when you were "faced with multiple attackers..." in order to receive the amount of damage you got per the Azureblight tooltip. But how dare an organized group use a set as intended.

Dat

Oh I 100% was in a group. Not even denying that lol seems more a group buster is what I was commenting on. Just wasn't expecting it to be that high of dmg. Surprisingly this set outdamaged the oils and cold fires shot at us all night. Kinda nuts

Dojohoda

I guess I could get on my tank to help expedite the set farming for the pugs. Everyone needs a set. Too bad there's not a mayhem event in the near future.

OBJnoob

Might put this on my new Necro Werewolf.... Thanks.... BwaaaaaHahahahaha.

Necrotech_Master

individually those hits werent a lot, like ~3500-4000 per explosion, you just got hit with this explosion a lot (and the dmg ramps up the more people around you so, kind of a plaguebreak like set)

you got hit by a total of 20 explosions from 4 different people, but thats the annoying thing about the base game death recap, it just stacks similar cause of dmg so theres no way to tell if this happened in like a short or long period of time

for example if you had a 20 min long fight and someone proc'd the same thing on you 40 times, it would still show 40x on the death recap if you died even though you werent hit 40 times all at once, just the cumulative dmg from that source for the duration of the fight

doesurmindglow

The real fun will come in two weeks when literally everyone has the set on

Bashev

How stack were your group? I thought the radius is max 6m, even maybe 5.

Lumsdenml

Dat wrote: »

Seems uhm....working as intended? New zerg set confirmed

Did you try using Aspect of Terror to even the odds?

El_Borracho

Dat wrote: »

Oh I 100% was in a group. Not even denying that lol seems more a group buster is what I was commenting on. Just wasn't expecting it to be that high of dmg. Surprisingly this set outdamaged the oils and cold fires shot at us all night. Kinda nuts

Sounds like you were packed in tight, which can be unavoidable in keeps. The confusion I had with your original post was that Azureblight is a great counter to the zerg and can be effective with an organized group of 8-12 players with only 4 or 5 players running it.

TybaltKaine

Nice, a new set to bust groups with while I'm in stealth.

OtarTheMad

That and VD are gonna be killer lol.

Marcus684

From the patch notes:


Looks like someone figured out really quickly how these changes would ramp up the power in certain circumstances.

Teeba_Shei

I recognize this screenshot from a ball group discord. You were in a ball group with cross healing stacked up tightly when you got hit by that set. Stop trying to pretend like you are a solo player.

OBJnoob

He's not trying to pretend he's a solo player. If you're looking for the "I hate heal stacking" topic STOP... You've gone too far.

Let me reiterate.

Stop. You've gone too far.

Amerises

Finally they found an actual way to affect ball groups without busting every other aspect of the game!

Teeba_Shei

OBJnoob wrote: »

He's not trying to pretend he's a solo player. If you're looking for the "I hate heal stacking" topic STOP... You've gone too far.

Let me reiterate.

Stop. You've gone too far.

"New zerg set confirmed" is what he said. Hes trying to pretend like this is a set used by zergs against solo players. This is a set used by solo players against zergs. Its very ineffective against solo players because you have to have 20 dot ticks to do 3k damage. Probably one of the worst xv1 proc sets in the game.

Dat

Synapsis123 wrote: »

OBJnoob wrote: »

He's not trying to pretend he's a solo player. If you're looking for the "I hate heal stacking" topic STOP... You've gone too far.

Let me reiterate.

Stop. You've gone too far.

"New zerg set confirmed" is what he said. Hes trying to pretend like this is a set used by zergs against solo players. This is a set used by solo players against zergs. Its very ineffective against solo players because you have to have 20 dot ticks to do 3k damage. Probably one of the worst xv1 proc sets in the game.

Not trying to pretend anything lol look at my post afterwards genius and read its not hard. Yes I'm a ballgroup player I've never denied that once. And you can see that clearly from my previous comments on other posts.

Nice job trying to start hate tho, you'll get better with practice.

Anyways back on topic. When a group of 4-5 players use this with nothing but dots on their bars the procs go off on cd. I was commenting on the fact that this will hurt the ballgroups (which is what 90% of posts concerning ballgroups wanted) so I was commenting that the public got what they wanted. Far better then plaguebreak imo. Not really a good set for a organized group as you would need far to many people running it to really be effective in group play. Once the general population sees the effectiveness burst healing will become far more prevalent in groups over hots is my guess

Dat

Lumsdenml wrote: »

Dat wrote: »

Seems uhm....working as intended? New zerg set confirmed

Did you try using Aspect of Terror to even the odds?

Unfortunately no I did not lol but I'll be sure to try that next time. I miss ghostbanes tips from AP meter addon lol "have you tried pve instead?"

Dat

For example after we saw that we farmed sets and went out to try it. Just defending open gates on keeps was hilarious. I think we had 5 just dropping caltrops/wall of elements/twisting paths/conduits/ and poison spray. Players were just exploding as they were running in lol. I will say it was definitely amusing

Necrotech_Master

Dat wrote: »

For example after we saw that we farmed sets and went out to try it. Just defending open gates on keeps was hilarious. I think we had 5 just dropping caltrops/wall of elements/twisting paths/conduits/ and poison spray. Players were just exploding as they were running in lol. I will say it was definitely amusing

arcanist beams would actually be one of the fastest ways to trigger this proc (tick rate of .3 times per sec get to 20 stacks in just under 7 seconds by itself lol)

not that the beam needs any more help to be deadly in the right situation lol

Dat

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Dat wrote: »

For example after we saw that we farmed sets and went out to try it. Just defending open gates on keeps was hilarious. I think we had 5 just dropping caltrops/wall of elements/twisting paths/conduits/ and poison spray. Players were just exploding as they were running in lol. I will say it was definitely amusing

arcanist beams would actually be one of the fastest ways to trigger this proc (tick rate of .3 times per sec get to 20 stacks in just under 7 seconds by itself lol)

not that the beam needs any more help to be deadly in the right situation lol

Yeah I was thinking of doing that but didn't have bow leveled on mine yet. But I do want to try that

Theignson

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Dat wrote: »

For example after we saw that we farmed sets and went out to try it. Just defending open gates on keeps was hilarious. I think we had 5 just dropping caltrops/wall of elements/twisting paths/conduits/ and poison spray. Players were just exploding as they were running in lol. I will say it was definitely amusing

arcanist beams would actually be one of the fastest ways to trigger this proc (tick rate of .3 times per sec get to 20 stacks in just under 7 seconds by itself lol)

not that the beam needs any more help to be deadly in the right situation lol

Is the beam a proc or an area effect channel? If its a channeled ability it is boosted by Deadly set but would not set off azureblight

Necrotech_Master

Theignson wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Dat wrote: »

For example after we saw that we farmed sets and went out to try it. Just defending open gates on keeps was hilarious. I think we had 5 just dropping caltrops/wall of elements/twisting paths/conduits/ and poison spray. Players were just exploding as they were running in lol. I will say it was definitely amusing

arcanist beams would actually be one of the fastest ways to trigger this proc (tick rate of .3 times per sec get to 20 stacks in just under 7 seconds by itself lol)

not that the beam needs any more help to be deadly in the right situation lol

Is the beam a proc or an area effect channel? If its a channeled ability it is boosted by Deadly set but would not set off azureblight

it is a channel, but it is also considered a dot

dots are what procs azureblight

CameraBeardThePirate

Theignson wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Dat wrote: »

For example after we saw that we farmed sets and went out to try it. Just defending open gates on keeps was hilarious. I think we had 5 just dropping caltrops/wall of elements/twisting paths/conduits/ and poison spray. Players were just exploding as they were running in lol. I will say it was definitely amusing

arcanist beams would actually be one of the fastest ways to trigger this proc (tick rate of .3 times per sec get to 20 stacks in just under 7 seconds by itself lol)

not that the beam needs any more help to be deadly in the right situation lol

Is the beam a proc or an area effect channel? If its a channeled ability it is boosted by Deadly set but would not set off azureblight

Just because it's a channel doesn't mean it wouldn't proc Azureblight - it's still DoT damage.

Theignson

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Theignson wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Dat wrote: »

For example after we saw that we farmed sets and went out to try it. Just defending open gates on keeps was hilarious. I think we had 5 just dropping caltrops/wall of elements/twisting paths/conduits/ and poison spray. Players were just exploding as they were running in lol. I will say it was definitely amusing

arcanist beams would actually be one of the fastest ways to trigger this proc (tick rate of .3 times per sec get to 20 stacks in just under 7 seconds by itself lol)

not that the beam needs any more help to be deadly in the right situation lol

Is the beam a proc or an area effect channel? If its a channeled ability it is boosted by Deadly set but would not set off azureblight

Just because it's a channel doesn't mean it wouldn't proc Azureblight - it's still DoT damage.

I think of a dot as something that is applied once , then continues to hit the person over time. Whereas the beam is a channeled direct damage-- if you step out of the beam it doesn't continue to damage over time. Could easily be tested, though, the standards arent exactly airtight!

jaws343

Theignson wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Theignson wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Dat wrote: »

For example after we saw that we farmed sets and went out to try it. Just defending open gates on keeps was hilarious. I think we had 5 just dropping caltrops/wall of elements/twisting paths/conduits/ and poison spray. Players were just exploding as they were running in lol. I will say it was definitely amusing

arcanist beams would actually be one of the fastest ways to trigger this proc (tick rate of .3 times per sec get to 20 stacks in just under 7 seconds by itself lol)

not that the beam needs any more help to be deadly in the right situation lol

Is the beam a proc or an area effect channel? If its a channeled ability it is boosted by Deadly set but would not set off azureblight

Just because it's a channel doesn't mean it wouldn't proc Azureblight - it's still DoT damage.

I think of a dot as something that is applied once , then continues to hit the person over time. Whereas the beam is a channeled direct damage-- if you step out of the beam it doesn't continue to damage over time. Could easily be tested, though, the standards arent exactly airtight!

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If you step out of Wall of Elements, it also doesn't continue to damage you. Still a DOT though.

Necrotech_Master

Theignson wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Theignson wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Dat wrote: »

For example after we saw that we farmed sets and went out to try it. Just defending open gates on keeps was hilarious. I think we had 5 just dropping caltrops/wall of elements/twisting paths/conduits/ and poison spray. Players were just exploding as they were running in lol. I will say it was definitely amusing

arcanist beams would actually be one of the fastest ways to trigger this proc (tick rate of .3 times per sec get to 20 stacks in just under 7 seconds by itself lol)

not that the beam needs any more help to be deadly in the right situation lol

Is the beam a proc or an area effect channel? If its a channeled ability it is boosted by Deadly set but would not set off azureblight

Just because it's a channel doesn't mean it wouldn't proc Azureblight - it's still DoT damage.

I think of a dot as something that is applied once , then continues to hit the person over time. Whereas the beam is a channeled direct damage-- if you step out of the beam it doesn't continue to damage over time. Could easily be tested, though, the standards arent exactly airtight!

jabs or flurry are considered channeled direct dmg, because its a series of direct hits (these used to be counted as dots for a lot of things and did used to proc azureblight)

the beam is definitely considered a dot though, similar to jesus beam, its just not tethered to a target

Amerises

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Dat wrote: »

For example after we saw that we farmed sets and went out to try it. Just defending open gates on keeps was hilarious. I think we had 5 just dropping caltrops/wall of elements/twisting paths/conduits/ and poison spray. Players were just exploding as they were running in lol. I will say it was definitely amusing

arcanist beams would actually be one of the fastest ways to trigger this proc (tick rate of .3 times per sec get to 20 stacks in just under 7 seconds by itself lol)

not that the beam needs any more help to be deadly in the right situation lol

Dang, I thought it was stack every half second, but it’s explosion! You can stack ‘em fast. Deadly + Azureblight might be a pretty wicked combo!

For everyone else, Jesus Beam is DoT, not sure about Anarchists though

EDIT: Did Masters Maces and Vate Frost just get 100x better? lol

Necrotech_Master

Amerises wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Dat wrote: »

For example after we saw that we farmed sets and went out to try it. Just defending open gates on keeps was hilarious. I think we had 5 just dropping caltrops/wall of elements/twisting paths/conduits/ and poison spray. Players were just exploding as they were running in lol. I will say it was definitely amusing

arcanist beams would actually be one of the fastest ways to trigger this proc (tick rate of .3 times per sec get to 20 stacks in just under 7 seconds by itself lol)

not that the beam needs any more help to be deadly in the right situation lol

Dang, I thought it was stack every half second, but it’s explosion! You can stack ‘em fast. Deadly + Azureblight might be a pretty wicked combo!

For everyone else, Jesus Beam is DoT, not sure about Anarchists though

EDIT: Did Masters Maces and Vate Frost just get 100x better? lol

azureblight has always stacked as fast as dots tick (every dot tick is 1 stack), with the update they added the explosion cooldown of half a second (it used to be cooldown per target on adding stacks after the explosion)

in a way it kind of made it stronger because while the explosion cannot go off simultaneously, a half of a second cooldown + scaling explosion arguably make it better for dealing with large mobs, assuming you can reach 20 stacks in a reasonable amount of time

i dont know if the vateshran proc can add stacks, since that would be a proc procing a proc, the dual wield skill ticks way too slow to build azureblight fast enough to make it tick in a reasonable amount of time

azureblight historically was never really good in pvp because purging removed all of the stacks, so it was almost impossible to reach 20 stacks before either the target died or it was purged

if the blight seed debuff it applies stacks from multiple players, it could be way easier to hit 20 stacks, more people wearing it would be like a force multiplier

with the way they changed it, and as described in this post, it actually is pretty anti-ball group of a lot of enemy players are wearing it

SkaraMinoc

Dat wrote: »

Seems uhm....working as intended? New zerg set confirmed

It looks like Acid Spray is a solid blight generator against ball groups and would also apply Plague Carrier.

Anyone try this out or have something better?