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Can Barrier, and its morphs, PLEASE be Re-enabled to work on Non-Group Members in Overland -PvE-?
meekmiko
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^ Title, as a QoL at least maybe?
I always feel bad when I'm fighting an Overland Boss with some nearby randoms and I'm able to pop a barrier and keep myself alive easily, meanwhile the guy to my left and right are absolutely demolished because it can't even help them. I can understand it not working on non-group members in PvP for group stacking reasons, buuuut why not make it work again on Overland PvE?
I always feel bad when I'm fighting an Overland Boss with some nearby randoms and I'm able to pop a barrier and keep myself alive easily, meanwhile the guy to my left and right are absolutely demolished because it can't even help them. I can understand it not working on non-group members in PvP for group stacking reasons, buuuut why not make it work again on Overland PvE?
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Necrotech_Master✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭because zos has a difficult time balancing pve and pvp separately? lolplays PC/NA
handle @Necrotech_Master
active player since april 2014
i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them
feel free to stop by and use the facilities4 -
AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I agree with OP. I quit using Barrier a long time ago when it went from 'allies' to 'group members'. Same with several sets including Earthgore and Winter's Respite.
If it is a PvP thing, then use Battle Spirit as necessary. Returning these skills/sets to helping allies in PvE hurts absolutely nothing and simply increases the number of worthwhile sets/skills. Running a support role in PvE is unrewarding enough without nerfing helpful sets/skills.Edited by AcadianPaladin on August 3, 2023 11:15AMPC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo3 -
Treeshka✭✭✭✭✭
✭Other than this issue. I see Olorime circle in Cyrodiil and get dissapointed because i am not in their group to get the buff.0 -
TybaltKaine✭✭✭✭✭
✭I love my winter's respite Templar healer, but the whole core of the build is dependent on things that can only work in group settings and that is super disappointing. I want to be able to drop my four healing circles when I'm randomly questing and see someone struggling against a WB.- Tybalt Kaine Khajiit Nightblade Aldmeri Dominion
- PC/NA
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- "Nightblade healer huh? How does that work?"
- "I drain the blood of our enemies and fire it into you. It's a lot less messy than it sounds, and yeah I'm basically a Vampire without the whole AGH FIRE BAD"
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NordSwordnBoard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I thought they did that to reduce lag. Also, to encourage grouping up for group activities.Fear is the Mindkiller0 -
Necrotech_Master✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NordSwordnBoard wrote: »I thought they did that to reduce lag. Also, to encourage grouping up for group activities.
it was definitely for cyro balance, but all it did was weaken ungrouped zergs and did nothing to ball groupsplays PC/NA
handle @Necrotech_Master
active player since april 2014
i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them
feel free to stop by and use the facilities1