Zenithar box drops bugged (edit: hidden cooldown proven by Kevin)

Kisakee

As stated above you'll get a box each time you complete a world event / boss while being grouped with a guild mate. That's simply not true, it's only guaranteed for the first time of that certain activity on that map (let alone vents and dragons aren't even counted separately but as a whole on different maps). So this is either bugged or a false claim. It makes farming those extremely tedious and for me i'll quit the event for the day after i got my style page, that's nothing to enjoy for me.

Adaarye

Yeah. I feel the event has been gutted for me this year. I'll get my tickets and move on to something else.

Panthermic

Those drops have a few minutes of cool-down timers. So if you kill bosses right after each other, then no new boxes after the 1st.

Balastar

The cooldown is about 5 minutes at least on Dragons.

ZOS_Kevin

@Kisakee Have you tried again after waiting a few minutes? Just want to make sure you are not running up against a timer. If you are still running into the issue, we can pass this to the dev team.

NoticeMeArkay

I'm dealing with the same issue and so are my guild members. I also swapped from my main character to an alt and still had the same issue. There seems to be a timer runnign when farming Harrowstorms, Dragons and Vents on Galen. Can't speak for the other world events, I stopped trying.

ZOS_Kevin

Thanks for the additional feedback here. We'll pass this along to the team as a bug and see what they come back with.

ZOS_Kevin

Hey all, just checked in with the team. It seems like some of you may just be hitting a cooldown between farms. The team is not seeing any bugs impacting drops here.

merpins

So Kevin seems to think we are supposed to get multiple boxes from bosses.

Why allow multiple boxes from bosses and not from completing daily crafting writs on your characters? You're definitely alienating the players that like crafting more than grouping up and bossing. I'm in an okay spot cause my wife and I both play and can group up if we want to farm boxes. But not everyone has someone they know that they can do that with. This absolutely misses the theme of the event.

Starshadw

Adaarye wrote: »

Yeah. I feel the event has been gutted for me this year. I'll get my tickets and move on to something else.

Absolutely has been gutted. One box received for daily crafting writs - PER ACCOUNT. I completed my first character, sighed in disappointment at the "only one per character" decision, then logged into my second character, did my daily crafting writs, and got not a single box. Literally logged out in sheer disgust after that.

Kisakee

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hey all, just checked in with the team. It seems like some of you may just be hitting a cooldown between farms. The team is not seeing any bugs impacting drops here.

That explains it then, thanks for the clarification. Please be aware that a cooldown (which hasn't been mentioned anywhere on the event info page) is taking out the fun of such events. I hope feedback like this will be taken into consideration.

jaws343

Kisakee wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hey all, just checked in with the team. It seems like some of you may just be hitting a cooldown between farms. The team is not seeing any bugs impacting drops here.

That explains it then, thanks for the clarification. Please be aware that a cooldown (which hasn't been mentioned anywhere on the event info page) is taking out the fun of such events. I hope feedback like this will be taken into consideration.

The cooldown isn't event related. It is literally the base game cooldown on killing bosses for loot.

Luke_Flamesword

The cooldown isn't event related. It is literally the base game cooldown on killing bosses for loot.

Nope. Last year people grouped and farmed dolmens/harrowstorms/dragons without any cooldowns. I remember harrowstorms destroyed in less than dozen seconds and within 5 minutes we get at least couple boxes. It was even fun, but they guted even this and now this event is just pointless. I logged into game, made a quest, writs and that's it. I don't see a reason to farm dolmens or bosses with 5 minutes cooldown and very unconvienant requirment to be grouped with someone from guild. I can't go cassualy from time to time into some dolmen or boss, because there is this stupid requirment.

Worst event ever...

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan

Luke_Flamesword wrote: »

The cooldown isn't event related. It is literally the base game cooldown on killing bosses for loot.

Nope. Last year people grouped and farmed dolmens/harrowstorms/dragons without any cooldowns. I remember harrowstorms destroyed in less than dozen seconds and within 5 minutes we get at least couple boxes. It was even fun, but they guted even this and now this event is just pointless. I logged into game, made a quest, writs and that's it. I don't see a reason to farm dolmens or bosses with 5 minutes cooldown and very unconvienant requirment to be grouped with someone from guild. I can't go cassualy from time to time into some dolmen or boss, because there is this stupid requirment.

Worst event ever...

How can you farm a dolmen without cooldowns? I've never seen that occur. When a dolmen's completed, the next dolmen in the series (somewhere else in the same zone) will activate, and it takes a minimum amount of time to travel between them, even in the zones with a good dolmen layout, such as Auridon.

I'm not disputing what you saw, by the way, just trying to clear up my understanding of how this works.

Luke_Flamesword

Yeah, but in Reach you can travel quite quickly and with people literally melt these things in seconds you can make definitely more than one in every 5 minutes (it was something like 3-5 - don't remember exactly).

alternatelder

There has been a cooldown on loot/event boxes since the beginning. It has always been 3 minutes.

Twohothardware

If you’re farming world events like dolmens you should get a box every other one based on the cooldown. There's always been a hidden cooldown of 3-5 minutes on event boxes.

CGPsaint

Twohothardware wrote: »

If you’re farming world events like dolmens you should get a box every other one based on the cooldown. There's always been a hidden cooldown of 3-5 minutes on event boxes.

I tried farming dolmens earlier and was getting 1 box every 3-4 dolmens completed. As far as I'm concerned this event is a complete waste of time. I'll just grab my 3 tickets each day and go about my business.

Kisakee

alternatelder wrote: »

There has been a cooldown on loot/event boxes since the beginning. It has always been 3 minutes.

Twohothardware wrote: »

If you’re farming world events like dolmens you should get a box every other one based on the cooldown. There's always been a hidden cooldown of 3-5 minutes on event boxes.

Neither can i confirm nor dissent on this but even if it is correct the statement of "each time" is simply not correct with such a hidden cooldown.

I want to enjoy such events but what are my high end geared characters good for if i can just camp with a low level toon at one harrowstorm and wait while watching a video, eating dinner or simply playing another game? In the end it's more efficient to just farm gold and buy the style pages off of guild traders. Events shouldn't be discouraging.

CGPsaint

Kisakee wrote: »

Neither can i confirm nor dissent on this but even if it is correct the statement of "each time" is simply not correct with such a hidden cooldown.

End of discussion.

spartaxoxo

vsrs_au wrote: »

Luke_Flamesword wrote: »

The cooldown isn't event related. It is literally the base game cooldown on killing bosses for loot.

Nope. Last year people grouped and farmed dolmens/harrowstorms/dragons without any cooldowns. I remember harrowstorms destroyed in less than dozen seconds and within 5 minutes we get at least couple boxes. It was even fun, but they guted even this and now this event is just pointless. I logged into game, made a quest, writs and that's it. I don't see a reason to farm dolmens or bosses with 5 minutes cooldown and very unconvienant requirment to be grouped with someone from guild. I can't go cassualy from time to time into some dolmen or boss, because there is this stupid requirment.

Worst event ever...

How can you farm a dolmen without cooldowns? I've never seen that occur. When a dolmen's completed, the next dolmen in the series (somewhere else in the same zone) will activate, and it takes a minimum amount of time to travel between them, even in the zones with a good dolmen layout, such as Auridon.

I'm not disputing what you saw, by the way, just trying to clear up my understanding of how this works.

Same zone loading screens are almost instant on PS5. And so many people were farming Harrowstorms they were down in seconds. Harrowstorms didn't have a cool down that I could observe. If it there was one, it was seconds, not 5 minutes.

Last year I was on PS4 and I couldn't keep up at all on the HS farm because it was too fast. Everything would be over before I could load in. So I went to Craglorn where I found a loop that was similarly fast and fast for everyone because there was no loading screens. I got a box each time and it was definitely not 5 minutes between.

Beilin_Balreis_Colcan

spartaxoxo wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

Luke_Flamesword wrote: »

The cooldown isn't event related. It is literally the base game cooldown on killing bosses for loot.

Nope. Last year people grouped and farmed dolmens/harrowstorms/dragons without any cooldowns. I remember harrowstorms destroyed in less than dozen seconds and within 5 minutes we get at least couple boxes. It was even fun, but they guted even this and now this event is just pointless. I logged into game, made a quest, writs and that's it. I don't see a reason to farm dolmens or bosses with 5 minutes cooldown and very unconvienant requirment to be grouped with someone from guild. I can't go cassualy from time to time into some dolmen or boss, because there is this stupid requirment.

Worst event ever...

How can you farm a dolmen without cooldowns? I've never seen that occur. When a dolmen's completed, the next dolmen in the series (somewhere else in the same zone) will activate, and it takes a minimum amount of time to travel between them, even in the zones with a good dolmen layout, such as Auridon.

I'm not disputing what you saw, by the way, just trying to clear up my understanding of how this works.

Same zone loading screens are almost instant on PS5. And so many people were farming Harrowstorms they were down in seconds. Harrowstorms didn't have a cool down that I could observe. If it there was one, it was seconds, not 5 minutes.

I thought harrowstorms activated in a cycle, like dolmens? Do you mean you can farm the same harrowstorm repeatedly? Sorry if the question seems stupid: I've only ever done 1 harrowstorm.

festegios

vsrs_au wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

Luke_Flamesword wrote: »

The cooldown isn't event related. It is literally the base game cooldown on killing bosses for loot.

Nope. Last year people grouped and farmed dolmens/harrowstorms/dragons without any cooldowns. I remember harrowstorms destroyed in less than dozen seconds and within 5 minutes we get at least couple boxes. It was even fun, but they guted even this and now this event is just pointless. I logged into game, made a quest, writs and that's it. I don't see a reason to farm dolmens or bosses with 5 minutes cooldown and very unconvienant requirment to be grouped with someone from guild. I can't go cassualy from time to time into some dolmen or boss, because there is this stupid requirment.

Worst event ever...

How can you farm a dolmen without cooldowns? I've never seen that occur. When a dolmen's completed, the next dolmen in the series (somewhere else in the same zone) will activate, and it takes a minimum amount of time to travel between them, even in the zones with a good dolmen layout, such as Auridon.

I'm not disputing what you saw, by the way, just trying to clear up my understanding of how this works.

Same zone loading screens are almost instant on PS5. And so many people were farming Harrowstorms they were down in seconds. Harrowstorms didn't have a cool down that I could observe. If it there was one, it was seconds, not 5 minutes.

I thought harrowstorms activated in a cycle, like dolmens? Do you mean you can farm the same harrowstorm repeatedly? Sorry if the question seems stupid: I've only ever done 1 harrowstorm.

They just mean farming whichever is active at the time.

spartaxoxo

vsrs_au wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

Luke_Flamesword wrote: »

The cooldown isn't event related. It is literally the base game cooldown on killing bosses for loot.

Nope. Last year people grouped and farmed dolmens/harrowstorms/dragons without any cooldowns. I remember harrowstorms destroyed in less than dozen seconds and within 5 minutes we get at least couple boxes. It was even fun, but they guted even this and now this event is just pointless. I logged into game, made a quest, writs and that's it. I don't see a reason to farm dolmens or bosses with 5 minutes cooldown and very unconvienant requirment to be grouped with someone from guild. I can't go cassualy from time to time into some dolmen or boss, because there is this stupid requirment.

Worst event ever...

How can you farm a dolmen without cooldowns? I've never seen that occur. When a dolmen's completed, the next dolmen in the series (somewhere else in the same zone) will activate, and it takes a minimum amount of time to travel between them, even in the zones with a good dolmen layout, such as Auridon.

I'm not disputing what you saw, by the way, just trying to clear up my understanding of how this works.

Same zone loading screens are almost instant on PS5. And so many people were farming Harrowstorms they were down in seconds. Harrowstorms didn't have a cool down that I could observe. If it there was one, it was seconds, not 5 minutes.

I thought harrowstorms activated in a cycle, like dolmens? Do you mean you can farm the same harrowstorm repeatedly? Sorry if the question seems stupid: I've only ever done 1 harrowstorm.

Harrowstorms do but the ones in reach are close to the wayshrines, which made them a very popular farming spot.

rpa

Stupid question: does the guildie in group need to be present at kill/clear or at same zone? Or can I group with someone doing home decorating or whatever and farm by myself?

Katheriah

What's the cooldown on the stylepages?

rpa wrote: »

Stupid question: does the guildie in group need to be present at kill/clear or at same zone? Or can I group with someone doing home decorating or whatever and farm by myself?

Yesterday when my guildie was already in group, but not yet in the same zone I did not get a box. I wasn't on cooldown.

CGPsaint

Katheriah wrote: »

What's the cooldown on the stylepages?

I haven't seen anything to suggest that you can get more than one page per day. I opened quite plenty of boxes yesterday and only got one page myself. At this point I'm going to farm up a bunch of boxes and only open until I get my page and then save the remaining boxes for the following day. Rinse and repeat.

Katheriah

Yeah that's my assumption, but is it like 20 hours, server reset, something else?

I wanted to farm this morning, but only got a piece on an account that didn't get anything yesterday.

Azriael2

rpa wrote: »

Stupid question: does the guildie in group need to be present at kill/clear or at same zone? Or can I group with someone doing home decorating or whatever and farm by myself?

They actually do not need to be next you - I was doing boss somewhere on the map, and guildie was in town far away, but no idea about different zone

demonology89

Azriael2 wrote: »

rpa wrote: »

Stupid question: does the guildie in group need to be present at kill/clear or at same zone? Or can I group with someone doing home decorating or whatever and farm by myself?

They actually do not need to be next you - I was doing boss somewhere on the map, and guildie was in town far away, but no idea about different zone

Thank you for info!

LadyLethalla

I turned in my crafting writs and a master writ at the same time and got one box. ONE. Not one for dailies and one for the master writ like I was expecting. So... yeah. I'm not farming anything. Ain't nobody got time fo' dat.
Very disappointed in this event this year.