can we create character with female head and male body?

evymyu233

And creating character with male head and female bodie.I think we can have more options when creating characters Players can choose heads and bodies of different genders,this can make it more convenient for players to play RP.

VaranisArano

On a practical level, this would dramatically change the meshes for the character models, so you'd probably wind up with a lot of stretching or clipping unless ZOS went back and did a lot of work on both the character models and probably on all the armor/costume/tattoo models as well.

I think it's unlikely that ZOS will commit the time and effort to do so.

It'd probably be easier for ZOS to change the facial feature sliders to allow for more male <-> female options while keeping the bone structure/skeletal meshes the same, i.e. push the square-jawed heroic looks farther or the Soft slider farther. I realize that's not quite what you're asking for, but it might be more likely to happen since there's less facial cosmetics.

wilykcat

What about this. Make head and face shapes seperate.

1. Add in a separate head shape customization

2. Add a slider for the head width

3. Add a slider for the head size

Saint-Ange

the ton of work that would be needed for implementation plus the lost loss of revenue from people that would quit the game ..
not gonna happen.

Tommy_The_Gun

Judging by screenshot of eso characters you can find on the Internet, I think that making character like that is already possible, you just need to fiddle around with the sliders a bit more. And for better effect it seems that people are using some hair styles that they "equip" from their collection once character is done.

netch_a_sketch

I'd like that too but it looks like most of these people wouldn't!

RaikaNA

evymyu233 wrote: »

And creating character with male head and female bodie.I think we can have more options when creating characters Players can choose heads and bodies of different genders,this can make it more convenient for players to play RP.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

TinyDragon

I think this would add to the diversity, but would need to be implemented with care to make sure the scale etc was reasonable

whitecrow

..........Why?

Arizona_Steve

If they allowed that there would be calls for bearded male characters with female bodies. No thanks.

MJ202

whitecrow wrote: »

..........Why?

....this.

prof-dracko

whitecrow wrote: »

..........Why?

Why not?

EmEm_Oh

How about allowing human heads on animal bodies. I'm more into animals.

Four_Fingers

An Altmer head on a Argonian body.

tim77

wilykcat wrote: »

What about this. Make head and face shapes seperate.

1. Add in a separate head shape customization

2. Add a slider for the head width

3. Add a slider for the head size

you would love sons of the forest ^^

Syldras

JohnMarkESO wrote: »

prof-dracko wrote: »

whitecrow wrote: »

..........Why?

Why not?

Cuz unnatural.

In a world where magic exists.
Lorewise, I'd see no problems. I think technically, this would be the best solution, probably:

VaranisArano wrote: »

It'd probably be easier for ZOS to change the facial feature sliders to allow for more male <-> female options while keeping the bone structure/skeletal meshes the same, i.e. push the square-jawed heroic looks farther or the Soft slider farther. I realize that's not quite what you're asking for, but it might be more likely to happen since there's less facial cosmetics.

prof-dracko

whitecrow wrote: »

..........Why?

Why not?

JohnMarkESO wrote: »

prof-dracko wrote: »

whitecrow wrote: »

..........Why?

Why not?

Cuz unnatural.

That's the funniest possible answer you could have given regarding a game where dragons are literal demigods, an entire caste of elves live in giant mushrooms, and the sun is a hole in reality.

Dr_Con

Sure add this to the list after making it so I can have a khajiit head and argonian tail on my dark elf's body.

Cazador

I say why not. This is a fantasy game with magic and anthropomorphic cat and lizard people so realism doesn't really matter that much.

Don't know if I'd use it myself but more options for everyone is a good thing.

Syldras

Dr_Con wrote: »

Sure add this to the list after making it so I can have a khajiit head and argonian tail on my dark elf's body.

Because a male character with softer facial features or a female character that has a more rugged face is comparable to a human having animal body parts? That's what would probably be the result in the end.

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zaria

whitecrow wrote: »

..........Why?

An reasonable question, I say cuter Khajiit as in Ohmes raht would be more lucrative.
And this make me think of the memes about modern female heroes who basically is this and not lucrative.

Now it makes little sense that Argonians has breasts, yes in the earlier games you had an female model and female Argonaians had to use this to use female clothing.
But then you should obviously be able to do the opposite who the ugly orc in dress community would love.
Also beards at last.

Sheezabeast

This is why we have helmets. What's underneath the helmet is your imagination.

Dr_Con

Syldras wrote: »

Dr_Con wrote: »

Sure add this to the list after making it so I can have a khajiit head and argonian tail on my dark elf's body.

Because a male character with softer facial features or a female character that has a more rugged face is comparable to a human having animal body parts? That's what would probably be the result in the end.

Syldras wrote: »

Dr_Con wrote: »

Sure add this to the list after making it so I can have a khajiit head and argonian tail on my dark elf's body.

Because a male character with softer facial features or a female character that has a more rugged face is comparable to a human having animal body parts? That's what would probably be the result in the end.

Wanting more androgynous options (which is what you describe wanting) is completely different from wanting to put a man's head on a woman's body or a woman's head on a man's body at character creation (what the OP posted), in order to "make it more convenient for players to play RP." Chimeraism makes the most sense of these three at the stage of character select over other explanations (alteration/illusion spells gone wrong)

Syldras

Dr_Con wrote: »

Wanting more androgynous options (which is what you describe wanting) is completely different from wanting to put a man's head on a woman's body or a woman's head on a man's body at character creation (what the OP posted), in order to "make it more convenient for players to play RP." Chimeraism makes the most sense of these three at the stage of character select over other explanations (alteration/illusion spells gone wrong)

I didn't say I want that. Or, more clearly: I'm not against it, but my characters so far looked fine the way they are (and I think there's already a lot possible with the current sliders). But for people who want more options - why not?

Anyway, I don't see a big problem in having an option. Don't like it - don't use it. People make suggestions I don't care for all the time. Why would I object? Interestingly, the biggest whining starts when it's about gender. See older discussions about gender-locked adornments, especially beards.

laniakea_0

TinyDragon wrote: »

I think this would add to the diversity, but would need to be implemented with care to make sure the scale etc was reasonable

Diversity is of no value. it's a natural consequence of Variety and Variety is what's actually desirable but pure, complete Diversity in and of itself is detrimental to creativity. it's what we seen in many large budget games and movies these days. character traits and plot devices are put on a checklist and they attempt to check them all to generate as much diversity as possible but that doesn't leave any room for creative expression. Diversity as a goal is too restrictive to be worthwhile.

laniakea_0

evymyu233 wrote: »

And creating character with male head and female bodie.I think we can have more options when creating characters Players can choose heads and bodies of different genders,this can make it more convenient for players to play RP.

ask yourself this: "do people actually want this" "does the target audience of such options even want to mix and match if they can just have the whole package, all of it part of the desired sex, instead?"

if you think the answer is yes, you may not know people as well as you think you do

disintegr8

I'm not really sure what defines a male or female head anymore, especially in today's world.

Syldras

If male Argonians can be created with this head:

instead of this:

society will collapse!!!

laniakea_0

@disintegr8 just look at a lineup of pictures of people sans make up/cosmetic surgery. should make it fairly obvious.

Syldras

laniakea_0 wrote: »

@disintegr8 just look at a lineup of pictures of people sans make up/cosmetic surgery. should make it fairly obvious.

Funny thing, without make up and cosmetic surgery, there would probably be more masculine looking women around...

That said, I'm not saying there are no physical differences between the sexes, but masculine looking (especially older) ladies do exist, as well as young women who could be mistaken for young men, and people who look so androgynous you can't tell their sex for sure do also exist. It's a minority, but it's a part of the variety of nature. And I'm not even talking about trans people here.

I think if the suggested option would exist in ESO, it would also only be a smaller percentage of the playerbase using it, not the vast majority. So where's the problem?