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Inferno staff.
Melzo
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Staff inferno changes synergize very well with skills from this tree, but very poorly with other spam abilities. Now everyone will spam the ability from the Staff of Destruction but class spam abilities will be worse. These changes do not affect skills in any way, and now players using class or other spam abilities or even other skills outside of the Destruction Staff tree will deal less damage. A very strange decision. Weaken the already weak ranged combat with the use of staves.
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Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It was overshadowing lightning and ice staves. Not sure if a status effect damage buff was the right way to go about it, but in principle it was long overdue to make the other elements worth using.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
Melzo✭✭✭✭It was overshadowing lightning and ice staves. Not sure if a status effect damage buff was the right way to go about it, but in principle it was long overdue to make the other elements worth using.
Passive skills do not enhance skills outside of the Staff of Destruction tree in any way. This is a very bad change.1 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It was overshadowing lightning and ice staves. Not sure if a status effect damage buff was the right way to go about it, but in principle it was long overdue to make the other elements worth using.
Passive skills do not enhance skills outside of the Staff of Destruction tree in any way. This is a very bad change.
What is it that you are concerned about here? The loss in total damage? Because you are still getting a damage buff in return, just on something else. And the relative damage contribution kind of doesn't matter at the end of the day so long as it doesn't break anything or create some new broken interaction.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭i recommend swapping to bow front bar unless you're using a staff skill for some reason.
bow passives are now far superior to staff passives.2 -
Melzo✭✭✭✭It was overshadowing lightning and ice staves. Not sure if a status effect damage buff was the right way to go about it, but in principle it was long overdue to make the other elements worth using.
Passive skills do not enhance skills outside of the Staff of Destruction tree in any way. This is a very bad change.
What is it that you are concerned about here? The loss in total damage? Because you are still getting a damage buff in return, just on something else. And the relative damage contribution kind of doesn't matter at the end of the day so long as it doesn't break anything or create some new broken interaction.
If your build is not based on the Staff of Destruction and you spam from this skill line, you will lose damage. The players used the Staff of Destruction only to keep their distance. But now your damage has been reduced. And to get it back, you have to use skills that are somehow related to status effects. In addition, if you do not change the trade, then status effects will work less often and you will lose dps both in pve content and in pvp, since the 500 damage bonus does not apply to dot damage.
The difference between melee and ranged is 600 spell damage and you can't cover it if you spam class abilities and don't use skills from the staff of destruction branch.0 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭i recommend swapping to bow front bar unless you're using a staff skill for some reason.
bow passives are now far superior to staff passives.
This is the real concern here to be honest. Destruction staff being overshadowed by weapons that offer more general boosts.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.2 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It was overshadowing lightning and ice staves. Not sure if a status effect damage buff was the right way to go about it, but in principle it was long overdue to make the other elements worth using.
Passive skills do not enhance skills outside of the Staff of Destruction tree in any way. This is a very bad change.
What is it that you are concerned about here? The loss in total damage? Because you are still getting a damage buff in return, just on something else. And the relative damage contribution kind of doesn't matter at the end of the day so long as it doesn't break anything or create some new broken interaction.
If your build is not based on the Staff of Destruction and you spam from this skill line, you will lose damage. The players used the Staff of Destruction only to keep their distance. But now your damage has been reduced. And to get it back, you have to use skills that are somehow related to status effects. In addition, if you do not change the trade, then status effects will work less often and you will lose dps both in pve content and in pvp, since the 500 damage bonus does not apply to dot damage.
The difference between melee and ranged is 600 spell damage and you can't cover it if you spam class abilities and don't use skills from the staff of destruction branch.
Have you tested it though? The 500 damage adds up even without any trait changes. Not to mention, you could probably run an Asylum staff now and be fine. Most destruction staff users are already using Force Shock already anyway, the exception being the same classes that would now prefer lightning or ice staffs (or DKs who appreciate status effect builds already).This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
Melzo✭✭✭✭It was overshadowing lightning and ice staves. Not sure if a status effect damage buff was the right way to go about it, but in principle it was long overdue to make the other elements worth using.
Passive skills do not enhance skills outside of the Staff of Destruction tree in any way. This is a very bad change.
What is it that you are concerned about here? The loss in total damage? Because you are still getting a damage buff in return, just on something else. And the relative damage contribution kind of doesn't matter at the end of the day so long as it doesn't break anything or create some new broken interaction.
If your build is not based on the Staff of Destruction and you spam from this skill line, you will lose damage. The players used the Staff of Destruction only to keep their distance. But now your damage has been reduced. And to get it back, you have to use skills that are somehow related to status effects. In addition, if you do not change the trade, then status effects will work less often and you will lose dps both in pve content and in pvp, since the 500 damage bonus does not apply to dot damage.
The difference between melee and ranged is 600 spell damage and you can't cover it if you spam class abilities and don't use skills from the staff of destruction branch.
Have you tested it though? The 500 damage adds up even without any trait changes. Not to mention, you could probably run an Asylum staff now and be fine. Most destruction staff users are already using Force Shock already anyway, the exception being the same classes that would now prefer lightning or ice staffs (or DKs who appreciate status effect builds already).
Here I sit and check. Now all of my skills deal less damage, but Blastbones and Skeleton Archer still have a low chance of triggering a status effect.Even if I put the trade on chance to cause a status effect. Basically, this is a nerf for all class and pet related skills.1 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It was overshadowing lightning and ice staves. Not sure if a status effect damage buff was the right way to go about it, but in principle it was long overdue to make the other elements worth using.
Passive skills do not enhance skills outside of the Staff of Destruction tree in any way. This is a very bad change.
What is it that you are concerned about here? The loss in total damage? Because you are still getting a damage buff in return, just on something else. And the relative damage contribution kind of doesn't matter at the end of the day so long as it doesn't break anything or create some new broken interaction.
If your build is not based on the Staff of Destruction and you spam from this skill line, you will lose damage. The players used the Staff of Destruction only to keep their distance. But now your damage has been reduced. And to get it back, you have to use skills that are somehow related to status effects. In addition, if you do not change the trade, then status effects will work less often and you will lose dps both in pve content and in pvp, since the 500 damage bonus does not apply to dot damage.
The difference between melee and ranged is 600 spell damage and you can't cover it if you spam class abilities and don't use skills from the staff of destruction branch.
Have you tested it though? The 500 damage adds up even without any trait changes. Not to mention, you could probably run an Asylum staff now and be fine. Most destruction staff users are already using Force Shock already anyway, the exception being the same classes that would now prefer lightning or ice staffs (or DKs who appreciate status effect builds already).
Here I sit and check. Now all of my skills deal less damage, but Blastbones and Skeleton Archer still have a low chance of triggering a status effect.Even if I put the trade on chance to cause a status effect. Basically, this is a nerf for all class and pet related skills.
You play Necromancer. Have you tried switching to a lightning staff? That one buffs all of your damage over time abilities, which Necromancer should have a couple of.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7909723/#Comment_7909723
I've posted a bunch of parses here.It was overshadowing lightning and ice staves. Not sure if a status effect damage buff was the right way to go about it, but in principle it was long overdue to make the other elements worth using.
Passive skills do not enhance skills outside of the Staff of Destruction tree in any way. This is a very bad change.
What is it that you are concerned about here? The loss in total damage? Because you are still getting a damage buff in return, just on something else. And the relative damage contribution kind of doesn't matter at the end of the day so long as it doesn't break anything or create some new broken interaction.
If your build is not based on the Staff of Destruction and you spam from this skill line, you will lose damage. The players used the Staff of Destruction only to keep their distance. But now your damage has been reduced. And to get it back, you have to use skills that are somehow related to status effects. In addition, if you do not change the trade, then status effects will work less often and you will lose dps both in pve content and in pvp, since the 500 damage bonus does not apply to dot damage.
The difference between melee and ranged is 600 spell damage and you can't cover it if you spam class abilities and don't use skills from the staff of destruction branch.
my parses are mostly using ele weapon which has a status proc on every hit. it's still weak and bow out performs.5 -
Jazraena✭✭✭✭✭
✭Frankly, I'm also just outright annoyed at the idea of having to turn a firemage into an archer or lightning rod.
Power fantasy matters. 'Just switch power fantasy' is no workable solution.6