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Maarselok is totally not op

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  • mmtaniac
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    Yup it's perfect, it's one shot capabilities it's out of this world but still it's balanced as hell.
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  • mmtaniac
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    Biggest problem is not this set, destro elemental sus is problem it's free! This Debuff is whole problem.
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  • xylena_lazarow
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    techprince wrote: »
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    You're trying to tell us that 10k damage spread out over 4 seconds (after a long setup on a specific build with an obvious visual telegraph) is too much to reasonably handle in this 40k hp meta?

    The in-game death recaps are garbled nonsense that serve only to confuse casual or inexperienced players. Please use Combat Metrics (CMX) addon if you want to actually understand or prove anything.

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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on April 2, 2024 2:29PM
    PC/NA || CP/Cyro || RIP soft caps
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  • Major_Toughness
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    Why has this thread been necro'd.

    Maarselok is not a problem.
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  • techprince
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    xylena_lazarow wrote: »
    techprince wrote: »
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    You're trying to tell us that 10k damage spread out over 4 seconds (after a long setup on a specific build with an obvious visual telegraph) is too much to reasonably handle in this 40k hp meta?

    The in-game death recaps are garbled nonsense that serve only to confuse casual or inexperienced players. Please use Combat Metrics (CMX) addon if you want to actually understand or prove anything.

    2-3 gcds is a long setup according to you. And no, if the target already has 12-15 debuffs, no "long setup" required as well.

    Have you actually played against these builds in non-cp environment?

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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on April 2, 2024 2:34PM
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  • ZOS_Icy
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    Greetings,

    We have removed some insulting back and forth that was disruptive. Please ensure you are treating others with respect on the forums even when they have views that differ from your own.

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  • techprince
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    Major_Toughness wrote: »
    Why has this thread been necro'd.

    Maarselok is not a problem.

    Because you are already using it?
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  • Major_Toughness
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    techprince wrote: »
    Major_Toughness wrote: »
    Why has this thread been necro'd.

    Maarselok is not a problem.

    Because you are already using it?

    No.
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  • techprince
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    Major_Toughness wrote: »
    techprince wrote: »
    Major_Toughness wrote: »
    Why has this thread been necro'd.

    Maarselok is not a problem.

    Because you are already using it?

    No.

    So why does it matter to you? Have you played against someone using it in no-cp?
    Edited by techprince on April 2, 2024 3:12PM
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  • Major_Toughness
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    techprince wrote: »
    Major_Toughness wrote: »
    techprince wrote: »
    Major_Toughness wrote: »
    Why has this thread been necro'd.

    Maarselok is not a problem.

    Because you are already using it?

    No.

    So why does it matter to you? Have you played against someone using it in no-cp?

    Yes, all the time in BGs.

    It matters because you don't need to nerf Maarselok. You need to nerf Elemental Susceptibility giving a lot of negative effects with around 50% uptime for literally no cost.

    You won't find a Maarselok build without Ele Sus, well you won't find many builds without it, but it's what has enabled Maarselok from being an unused set to top of the meta with no changes.

    Why nerf a set that received no changes, because of something else which is overperforming.
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  • techprince
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    Major_Toughness wrote: »
    techprince wrote: »
    Major_Toughness wrote: »
    techprince wrote: »
    Major_Toughness wrote: »
    Why has this thread been necro'd.

    Maarselok is not a problem.

    Because you are already using it?

    No.

    So why does it matter to you? Have you played against someone using it in no-cp?

    Yes, all the time in BGs.

    It matters because you don't need to nerf Maarselok. You need to nerf Elemental Susceptibility giving a lot of negative effects with around 50% uptime for literally no cost.

    You won't find a Maarselok build without Ele Sus, well you won't find many builds without it, but it's what has enabled Maarselok from being an unused set to top of the meta with no changes.

    Why nerf a set that received no changes, because of something else which is overperforming.

    I did find many using it without ele sus as well. The damage remained the same. It should only count self-applied negative effects.
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