Arcanist the worst class in the game

Alharion

The pvp has become unplayable, it's already not welcoming, but with this class, it's even worse since this class is here;
A book as a death ray and an immobilizer and they've got their build...

It's even fairer for the other classes...

wilykcat

I literally made a post about arcanists vs dragonknights of which are more annoying in pvp combat a few weeks ago

Norith_Gilheart_Flail

What? Can you please reword that sentence.

wilykcat

Not really. But here's the post I'm taking about...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/636016/which-is-more-annoying-in-pvp#latest

TaSheen

I think he means the OP.

HidesInPlainSight

My dude, ain't no one in PvP, complaining about the Arcanist. They have zero burst potential. The Crux change made them more prone to being burst down, while also decreasing their burst potential.

They are a sustained damage PvP build, that shines in No Proc and BGs.

Their charm can be blocked, their beam can be interrupted, they have zero mobility, and you can out run both the beam and the Utli.

It takes a minimum of 3 GCD"s to eat full a powered Beam, and that only works if you are stun locked.

CiliPadi

ArchMikem

HidesInPlainSight wrote: »

My dude, ain't no one in PvP, complaining about the Arcanist. They have zero burst potential. The Crux change made them more prone to being burst down, while also decreasing their burst potential.

They are a sustained damage PvP build, that shines in No Proc and BGs.

Their charm can be blocked, their beam can be interrupted, they have zero mobility, and you can out run both the beam and the Utli.

It takes a minimum of 3 GCD"s to eat full a powered Beam, and that only works if you are stun locked.

I've fought two Arcanists in Cyro today, both full leveled in CP camp. One was a Mag and the other a Stam. Did a 1v1 tower fight with the Stam on my PvE StamBlade and I managed to win though as you said, I had to burst. However the class as a Stun I'm not sure how it works, it reminds me of the Warden skill that "randomly" freezes you in proximity. Bit annoying. The Mage however was tanky, never was able to defeat that one, even with help.

In the end during that skirmish around BRK, the most annoying player there weren't the Arcanists, but the MagSorc.

FeedbackOnly

Look at all their great utility. PvE is arcantist class for best class as support not worst.

Lumenn

wilykcat wrote: »

Not really. But here's the post I'm taking about...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/636016/which-is-more-annoying-in-pvp#latest

Lol, reading that post you'd think the arcanists strongest offense is bright green graphics. Oh wait......

Grizzbeorn

Alharion wrote: »

Arcanist the worst class in the game

Nope.

katorga

ArchMikem wrote: »

HidesInPlainSight wrote: »

My dude, ain't no one in PvP, complaining about the Arcanist. They have zero burst potential. The Crux change made them more prone to being burst down, while also decreasing their burst potential.

They are a sustained damage PvP build, that shines in No Proc and BGs.

Their charm can be blocked, their beam can be interrupted, they have zero mobility, and you can out run both the beam and the Utli.

It takes a minimum of 3 GCD"s to eat full a powered Beam, and that only works if you are stun locked.

I've fought two Arcanists in Cyro today, both full leveled in CP camp. One was a Mag and the other a Stam. Did a 1v1 tower fight with the Stam on my PvE StamBlade and I managed to win though as you said, I had to burst. However the class as a Stun I'm not sure how it works, it reminds me of the Warden skill that "randomly" freezes you in proximity. Bit annoying. The Mage however was tanky, never was able to defeat that one, even with help.

In the end during that skirmish around BRK, the most annoying player there weren't the Arcanists, but the MagSorc.

Arcanist stun is very, very difficult to break out of. I don't know why, probably due to latency issues and trying to break free b4 the 1 second delay is up and the stun happens.

HidesInPlainSight

katorga wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

HidesInPlainSight wrote: »

My dude, ain't no one in PvP, complaining about the Arcanist. They have zero burst potential. The Crux change made them more prone to being burst down, while also decreasing their burst potential.

They are a sustained damage PvP build, that shines in No Proc and BGs.

Their charm can be blocked, their beam can be interrupted, they have zero mobility, and you can out run both the beam and the Utli.

It takes a minimum of 3 GCD"s to eat full a powered Beam, and that only works if you are stun locked.

I've fought two Arcanists in Cyro today, both full leveled in CP camp. One was a Mag and the other a Stam. Did a 1v1 tower fight with the Stam on my PvE StamBlade and I managed to win though as you said, I had to burst. However the class as a Stun I'm not sure how it works, it reminds me of the Warden skill that "randomly" freezes you in proximity. Bit annoying. The Mage however was tanky, never was able to defeat that one, even with help.

In the end during that skirmish around BRK, the most annoying player there weren't the Arcanists, but the MagSorc.

Arcanist stun is very, very difficult to break out of. I don't know why, probably due to latency issues and trying to break free b4 the 1 second delay is up and the stun happens.

No its not, block it or pre-break it as the animation sets in. Its very easy to deny.

Inaya1

Well balanced class. Today, I calmly killed arcanists like others on my nightblade. Even strong players feel no better than other optimized classes. Each class has its annoying abilities, in the arcanist I did not see anything serious.

The only thing I don't like about the arcanist is his obsession with offensive abilities where he can absorb the crux. You have a choice of either tentacles or a book. Seriously? This seriously reduces class variability in offensive abilities. But as a support/tank, he is great for pve and pvp.

Daoin

generally i find the arcanist very enjoyable to play, of all my characters it has hopped straight up thier to most enjoyable and just since release on the server, didnt do any pts.no doubt when the newness wears off a bit that will die down but if it can be left as it is with now with major upsets to how it is now, i can see it always being a very enjoyable class to play.

HidesInPlainSight

Inaya1 wrote: »

Well balanced class. Today, I calmly killed arcanists like others on my nightblade. Even strong players feel no better than other optimized classes. Each class has its annoying abilities, in the arcanist I did not see anything serious.

The only thing I don't like about the arcanist is his obsession with offensive abilities where he can absorb the crux. You have a choice of either tentacles or a book. Seriously? This seriously reduces class variability in offensive abilities. But as a support/tank, he is great for pve and pvp.

Lol bruh, 95% of the fights against NBs as an Arcanist, the Arcanist will not have Crux up nor will they be able to reliably generate Crux against NB.

NB currently have a strong advantage over Arcanist, simply because they can 100% deny Arcanist Crux generation, so the Arcanist are left with weak heals, weak damage, and weak defenses.

Arcanist have zero burst damage, meaning NBs can just disengage at any time.

Arcanist are a fun class to play, but they are not well balanced, as they are at significant disadvantage in PvP, for anything but duels, where you have to stand and fight them.

NBs are basically why the nerf to Crux's is such a bad change. You basically have to spend 2x the resources to heal after a NB gank attempt than any other class in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASCXMTu5-w8&t=43s

Panderbander

HidesInPlainSight wrote: »

Inaya1 wrote: »

Well balanced class. Today, I calmly killed arcanists like others on my nightblade. Even strong players feel no better than other optimized classes. Each class has its annoying abilities, in the arcanist I did not see anything serious.

The only thing I don't like about the arcanist is his obsession with offensive abilities where he can absorb the crux. You have a choice of either tentacles or a book. Seriously? This seriously reduces class variability in offensive abilities. But as a support/tank, he is great for pve and pvp.

Lol bruh, 95% of the fights against NBs as an Arcanist, the Arcanist will not have Crux up nor will they be able to reliably generate Crux against NB.

NB currently have a strong advantage over Arcanist, simply because they can 100% deny Arcanist Crux generation, so the Arcanist are left with weak heals, weak damage, and weak defenses.

Arcanist have zero burst damage, meaning NBs can just disengage at any time.

Arcanist are a fun class to play, but they are not well balanced, as they are at significant disadvantage in PvP, for anything but duels, where you have to stand and fight them.

NBs are basically why the nerf to Crux's is such a bad change. You basically have to spend 2x the resources to heal after a NB gank attempt than any other class in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASCXMTu5-w8&t=43s

I ended up getting attacked by a NB while out on an arcanist in a damage set up. While I was able to avoid most of their damage I was also unable to land many hits because every other ability they used was cloak, making my pressure useless. This was the response I got (while they also immediately blocked me so I couldn't respond, btw).



Had the class been given even the slightest burst I could have given the guy a quick port back to another keep but the class just doesn't have it and with the current functioning of crux it's even harder to front load any damage now.