Nine leads are found within treasure map chests in Necrom

CGPsaint

For those of you on PC who are already hunting down the new leads, how is the treasure map situation looking, and are we looking at decent drop rates for leads, or are we in for another mind numbing grind?

Vulkunne

CGPsaint wrote: »

For those of you on PC who are already hunting down the new leads, how is the treasure map situation looking, and are we looking at decent drop rates for leads, or are we in for another mind numbing grind?

Oh God not this again. No... deal me out of this one lol. I have enough mythics that I don't use already.

TaSheen

In the "run into" Tel Pen for one CE treasure map, and into Apocrypha for another, I got a lead out of each - purple in Tel Pen, gold in Apocrypha.

The purple was on my PC EU account, gold on PC NA.

Hapexamendios

The fact that they keep putting so many with treasure maps shows they have neither understanding nor consideration for how a good portion of the player base feels about these types of leads. One or two is tolerable, but 9 for this and the 14 required for motifs is egregious.

CGPsaint

Hapexamendios wrote: »

The fact that they keep putting so many with treasure maps shows they have neither understanding nor consideration for how a good portion of the player base feels about these types of leads. One or two is tolerable, but 9 for this and the 14 required for motifs is egregious.

Thankfully there isn't an Ancestral motif in Necrom, so those 14 leads in treasure maps are gone, but 9 other leads seems a bit much. It was weeks before I saw my first Galen map, and to-date I've personally looted maybe 5-6 Galen maps, so hopefully the drop rate on the new maps is considerably higher, or else I'll be skipping all of the new antiquities as well.

carly

I've lost track of how many leads I've gotten but most of mine have been from harvesting, from mobs and I got one from fishing the other night.

vsrs_au

I got a Necrom antiquity lead from a crafting writ.

jsjem

I think at least they can make the range larger for example you can also get the lead from vvardenfell maps

Jaraal

vsrs_au wrote: »

I got a Necrom antiquity lead from a crafting writ.

Also got two gold leads at the same time in one bag from a Vvardenfell world boss quest turn in. That was a first for me.

Gruumsh1

Noooooo! Not again. <bashes head against wall in frustration>

Peppo_Lives

CGPsaint wrote: »

For those of you on PC who are already hunting down the new leads, how is the treasure map situation looking, and are we looking at decent drop rates for leads, or are we in for another mind numbing grind?

for codex completists, that number is multiplied by 3, unless they have only one codex entries (i've counted 7 with 3 entries, maybe i missed some)

Grizzbeorn

Any lead from Treasure Maps is going to be a mind-numbing, excruciating grind because of the nested RNG.
I'm still suffering from the Galen Conundrum.

jsjem

I spent almost all my money and bought 10 treasure maps but only got two leads, one book and one ugly furnishing.

ghost_bg_ESO

not happy, but also not in rush - it is whole year before next chapter...

ApoAlaia

If they follow the 'usual' pattern there will be a good chance for treasure maps during the chapter event later in the summer.

Also a good chance to farm Bastion Nymic and grab whatever goodies drop from there, I have an inkling that the popularity of this activity might take a very sharp nosedive unless they make QoL allowances so 'farm it while is hot' and all that jazz.

The pain is when it comes to DLC, which generally has just two treasure maps out of a pool of a couple of hundred and is usually a couple of years from release before is part of any event that may have a increased drop rate of treasure maps.

For that The Deadlands currently takes the mouldy, stale biscuit.

We might get a Blackwood + The Deadlands event in late autumn but given that this year's Q3 is different (no DLC) and the event schedule is all over the place due to the EU megaserver upgrades idk...

CGPsaint

Peppo_Lives wrote: »

CGPsaint wrote: »

For those of you on PC who are already hunting down the new leads, how is the treasure map situation looking, and are we looking at decent drop rates for leads, or are we in for another mind numbing grind?

for codex completists, that number is multiplied by 3, unless they have only one codex entries (i've counted 7 with 3 entries, maybe i missed some)

That's awesome. My Codex is still currently incomplete because after hundreds of Deadlands maps, I'm still missing 3 leads for motif chapters. ZOS is never going to learn that treasure maps are a terrible way to implement leads. I get the feeling that I might just have to farm new furnishing plans and just give a hard pass on the new zone and the corresponding antiquities.

Necrotech_Master

from what i saw all of the antiquity leads that come from treasure maps are part of furnishings, which require 3 codex entries

i managed to get 1 from one of the CE maps

im not really happy about the leads in treasure maps either, they really should be changed to just any treasure chest, with maybe a higher drop rate from the treasure maps

Melivar

Yea I thought most of them were from Treasure chest not treasure maps so might need to go back and double check.

The last Skin lead was ridiculous so hopefully no from the treasure maps only.

CGPsaint

Melivar wrote: »

Yea I thought most of them were from Treasure chest not treasure maps so might need to go back and double check.

The last Skin lead was ridiculous so hopefully no from the treasure maps only.

This is what I'm seeing online:

• Apocrypha Fossil, Arch - Treasure Map Chest in the Telvanni Peninsula and Apocrypha zone
• Apocrypha Fossil, Worm - Treasure Map Chest in the Telvanni Peninsula and Apocrypha zone
• Mushroom Classification Book - Treasure Map Chest in the Telvanni Peninsula and Apocrypha zone
• Apocrypha Fossil, Bones Large - Treasure Map in Telvanni Peninsula
• Apocrypha Fossil, Nautilus - Treasure Map Chest in the Telvanni Peninsula zone
• Cliffracer Skeleton Stand - Treasure Map in Telvanni Peninsula zone
• Ring of Stone - Treasure Map Chest in the Apocrypha zone
• Emergent Shadow - Treasure Map Chest
• Arms of Glory - Treasure Map Chest

SOURCE

Melivar

That's where I had looked as well must have misread it initially. Guess these just replaced the Motif pages from the previous chapters. Oh well guess I will get them over time.

o_Primate_o

They should make dlc treasure maps daily reward or for endeavor purchase

Necrotech_Master

SLEDGEHAMMER_X wrote: »

They should make dlc treasure maps daily reward or for endeavor purchase

if you could get the maps from doing dailies in the zone that would actually be great and possibly encourage more people to farm dailies in some of those now older zones lol

katanagirl1

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

SLEDGEHAMMER_X wrote: »

They should make dlc treasure maps daily reward or for endeavor purchase

if you could get the maps from doing dailies in the zone that would actually be great and possibly encourage more people to farm dailies in some of those now older zones lol

Didn’t you used to get Elsweyr treasure maps from doing the dailies there? At some point I think I had all of the locations memorized.

Jaraal

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

SLEDGEHAMMER_X wrote: »

They should make dlc treasure maps daily reward or for endeavor purchase

if you could get the maps from doing dailies in the zone that would actually be great and possibly encourage more people to farm dailies in some of those now older zones lol

For those who are not yet aware, Azandar will occasionally give you treasure maps in his Research Portfolios.

Necrotech_Master

Jaraal wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

SLEDGEHAMMER_X wrote: »

They should make dlc treasure maps daily reward or for endeavor purchase

if you could get the maps from doing dailies in the zone that would actually be great and possibly encourage more people to farm dailies in some of those now older zones lol

For those who are not yet aware, Azandar will occasionally give you treasure maps in his Research Portfolios.

if those are random though, its not any better than any other source that gives treasure maps

if your looking for motif leads you need a specific zone treasure map (ive only gotten maybe 3 galen maps since that released and i still havent gotten a single lead from there, heck im still missing 3 of the original motif antiquity leads codex entries)

even when i do get the specific maps i need, i still rarely if ever get a motif lead

Jaraal

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

SLEDGEHAMMER_X wrote: »

They should make dlc treasure maps daily reward or for endeavor purchase

if you could get the maps from doing dailies in the zone that would actually be great and possibly encourage more people to farm dailies in some of those now older zones lol

For those who are not yet aware, Azandar will occasionally give you treasure maps in his Research Portfolios.

if those are random though, its not any better than any other source that gives treasure maps

if your looking for motif leads you need a specific zone treasure map (ive only gotten maybe 3 galen maps since that released and i still havent gotten a single lead from there, heck im still missing 3 of the original motif antiquity leads codex entries)

even when i do get the specific maps i need, i still rarely if ever get a motif lead

The benefit is that it's an extra source of treasure maps that didn't exist before Necrom. He gave me a Galen map yesterday that I wouldn't have gotten otherwise (even though it was a dud.)

The problem with sourcing leads through treasure maps is that it's multiple layers of RNG. First you have to get lucky and find a map, then you have to be lucky and get the right map, then you need luck to even get a lead, and then be lucky enough to get the correct lead that you are actually looking for. And the more zones that are introduced to the game, the more diluted the pool becomes to get maps from one specific area.

No idea why they thought frustrating players in this manner was a good idea.... but it is what it is.

Necrotech_Master

Jaraal wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

SLEDGEHAMMER_X wrote: »

They should make dlc treasure maps daily reward or for endeavor purchase

if you could get the maps from doing dailies in the zone that would actually be great and possibly encourage more people to farm dailies in some of those now older zones lol

For those who are not yet aware, Azandar will occasionally give you treasure maps in his Research Portfolios.

if those are random though, its not any better than any other source that gives treasure maps

if your looking for motif leads you need a specific zone treasure map (ive only gotten maybe 3 galen maps since that released and i still havent gotten a single lead from there, heck im still missing 3 of the original motif antiquity leads codex entries)

even when i do get the specific maps i need, i still rarely if ever get a motif lead

The benefit is that it's an extra source of treasure maps that didn't exist before Necrom. He gave me a Galen map yesterday that I wouldn't have gotten otherwise (even though it was a dud.)

The problem with sourcing leads through treasure maps is that it's multiple layers of RNG. First you have to get lucky and find a map, then you have to be lucky and get the right map, then you need luck to even get a lead, and then be lucky enough to get the correct lead that you are actually looking for. And the more zones that are introduced to the game, the more diluted the pool becomes to get maps from one specific area.

No idea why they thought frustrating players in this manner was a good idea.... but it is what it is.

yeah thats why ive never really focused on these, and why i refuse to buy treasure maps

if they drastically increased the drop chance of the leads from the maps, it would help significantly, though still need better ways to get the maps we actually need for the leads (as there is no way to convert a map that we already have)

i wish they added some kind of merchant that allowed you to exchange a treasure map with that of a different zones map for some gold cost

CGPsaint

Jaraal wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

SLEDGEHAMMER_X wrote: »

They should make dlc treasure maps daily reward or for endeavor purchase

if you could get the maps from doing dailies in the zone that would actually be great and possibly encourage more people to farm dailies in some of those now older zones lol

For those who are not yet aware, Azandar will occasionally give you treasure maps in his Research Portfolios.

if those are random though, its not any better than any other source that gives treasure maps

if your looking for motif leads you need a specific zone treasure map (ive only gotten maybe 3 galen maps since that released and i still havent gotten a single lead from there, heck im still missing 3 of the original motif antiquity leads codex entries)

even when i do get the specific maps i need, i still rarely if ever get a motif lead

The benefit is that it's an extra source of treasure maps that didn't exist before Necrom. He gave me a Galen map yesterday that I wouldn't have gotten otherwise (even though it was a dud.)

The problem with sourcing leads through treasure maps is that it's multiple layers of RNG. First you have to get lucky and find a map, then you have to be lucky and get the right map, then you need luck to even get a lead, and then be lucky enough to get the correct lead that you are actually looking for. And the more zones that are introduced to the game, the more diluted the pool becomes to get maps from one specific area.

No idea why they thought frustrating players in this manner was a good idea.... but it is what it is.

The simplest solution would be to give a higher drop rate for treasure maps in the zone that they are found in. For instance, if you're in the Deadlands, then there should be a higher chance of receiving a Deadlands treasure maps as opposed to any of the other maps. Say 25% chance of the specific zone and 75% chance of any other zone. At least then you could farm specific maps to make the ridiculous grinds a bit less frustrating. Ancestral Daedric motif leads coming from just 2 maps in a really deep loot pool and then having a 20% or less chance of dropping a lead, and then having a 1 in 14 chance of being the chapter that you need... it's downright poor implementation.

Gracous

Its to stop the zone from becoming a ghost town after a week after release. That's why they did it this way

Necrotech_Master

Gracous wrote: »

Its to stop the zone from becoming a ghost town after a week after release. That's why they did it this way

putting leads in treasure maps doesnt change this at all, they have been doing this for 3 years now

i mean you cant dig up the treasure without a map in the first place, and that only takes 30 seconds + travel time from the wayshrine

the thing that gets people to go back are dailies with good rewards lol

Carcamongus

So, they just replaced ancestral stuff with something else. And here I was thinking they had started to listen to us with Galen's reduced leads from maps. Silly me, I know.