What does this screenshot from the logs mean to you?

Volrath

• What does it say?
• How do you feel when you see this?

vRG - Bashei

Soarora

DK moment. Says to me they’re a hardcore core though. Not sure why you’d do the meta composition just to do rockgrove but if it’s hardmode or going into a hardmode prog I could see it.

phaneub17_ESO

As a solo player, nothing :P

Ph1p

I see a typical advanced trial group composition of DK and Necro tanks, Warden and NB healers, (presumably) Zen-DK and EC-Necro, plus a bunch of DKs, which are the meta right now.

However, that doesn't say anything meaningful without more context. Why did you post this screenshot, what's the point you want to make, or what's the actual question you have?

FantasticFreddie

I see a DK at the bottom who could probably use some guidance, assuming that their below the EC cro in damage? Even if wearing zenkosh, no one should be lower than the EC cro, IMHO.

Other than that..... not much. Looks like good damage overall, could probably stand harder content than vRG.

Kendaric

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

As a solo player, nothing :P

Was about to say the same, you took the words right out of my mouth Have an "awesome" for that.

Kirawolfe

Orange. Needs some purples.

Also, time to give my DK some love

KS_Amt38

That the game is perfectly balanced. Every class is represented in a perfect Trial composition.

Agenericname

Its says; Oakensoul is obviously ruining build diversity and necros are possibly overtuned.

LunaFlora

those sure are fun colours and numbers
it makes me feel confused because it reminds me of economy statistics

Braffin

Mainly I see that there is some skill involved to play your DK efficiently. The difference between best DK and worst DK (52.136,8 dps) and between worst DK and tank (50.941,1 dps) is nearby identical.

Maybe some DK in this group should consider playing another class imo

That's what you wanted to show us, isn't it?

Regarding your second question: As I didn't participate in this group for myself, I don't have particulary feelings looking at the statistic you provided.

PS: maybe off topic, but how many accounts is a single user allowed to use on this forums? Sometimes it feels like some trade theirs faster than the wind...

Cazador

Those are some class ability symbols alright. It also looks like math. Is there a specific point being made here?

AlwaysDancing

6 OakDKs, one EC cro (probably 2 bar) and one Zenkosh DK?

This IS a Nerf Oakensoul thread right?


because we all know that only Oakensoul users are allowed to do trials right now...

ApoAlaia

Braffin wrote: »

Mainly I see that there is some skill involved to play your DK efficiently. The difference between best DK and worst DK (52.136,8 dps) and between worst DK and tank (50.941,1 dps) is nearby identical.

Maybe some DK in this group should consider playing another class imo

That's what you wanted to show us, isn't it?

Regarding your second question: As I didn't participate in this group for myself, I don't have particulary feelings looking at the statistic you provided.

Zenkosh is not great to show off DPS numbers; it might be a bit on the low side but cut the player some slack

Braffin

ApoAlaia wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

Mainly I see that there is some skill involved to play your DK efficiently. The difference between best DK and worst DK (52.136,8 dps) and between worst DK and tank (50.941,1 dps) is nearby identical.

Maybe some DK in this group should consider playing another class imo

That's what you wanted to show us, isn't it?

Regarding your second question: As I didn't participate in this group for myself, I don't have particulary feelings looking at the statistic you provided.

Zenkosh is not great to show off DPS numbers; it might be a bit on the low side but cut the player some slack

Yeah sure, I didn't want to blame the player for his dps. Just tried to figure out what should be told by this entire thread

emilyhyoyeon

-it says DK needs to be nerfed into non-existence for at least 6 months
-I feel disgusted considering they've looked like this for over a year now

Hamish999

That some people take this game way too seriously?

I really have no idea what any of it means, nor do I care to be perfectly honest.
Games are meant to be fun right Each to their own and all that.

Volrath

So, group DPS reaches 1K++, will it be 2K if they use HA? I'm just curious about it.

Xarc

Bryan wheeler is playing DK ?

Braffin

Volrath wrote: »

So, group DPS was 1K, will it be 2K if they use HA? I'm just curious about it.

And here we have it, the next shrouded thread about sergeant brokensorc. Already wondered why there wasn't any till now today.

As for your question: As there is chance of at least 50% the HA user is pressing the wrong button on his mouse and is therefore kicked from group for "blocking like an elitist", the answer is no

Soarora

Volrath wrote: »

So, group DPS reaches 1K++, will it be 2K if they use HA? I'm just curious about it.

Probably not? The argument of HA isn’t that it does more damage than high-end traditional builds (in most cases), it’s that it does enough to clear all content including trial trifectas despite having extreme tankiness and ease. I’m 100% sure that there is a HA vRG you can look at to compare.

Volrath

Braffin wrote: »

Volrath wrote: »

So, group DPS was 1K, will it be 2K if they use HA? I'm just curious about it.

And here we have it, the next shrouded thread about sergeant brokensorc. Already wondered why there wasn't any till now today.

As for your question: As there is chance of at least 50% the HA user is pressing the wrong button on his mouse and is therefore kicked from group for "blocking like an elitist", the answer is no

Don't be afraid of threats like this. I see no harm or any reason for you to go off-topic and turn this into another Oakensoul thread. I'm just wondering how good DK is in terms of "balance" compared to other classes, that's all. And no, I've never seen a top-tier HA with more DPS than a top-tier 2-bars player.

Braffin

Volrath wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

Volrath wrote: »

So, group DPS was 1K, will it be 2K if they use HA? I'm just curious about it.

And here we have it, the next shrouded thread about sergeant brokensorc. Already wondered why there wasn't any till now today.

As for your question: As there is chance of at least 50% the HA user is pressing the wrong button on his mouse and is therefore kicked from group for "blocking like an elitist", the answer is no

Don't be afraid of threats like this. I see no harm or any reason for you to go off-topic and turn this into another Oakensoul thread. I'm just wondering how good DK is in terms of "balance" compared to other classes, that's all. And no, I've never seen a top-tier HA with more DPS than a top-tier 2-bars player.

You're the one asking about HA here, so you got your answer. As in every other thread before and in every upcoming one too.

Regarding class balance: It's no secret that DK is the strongest option for dd at the moment. Nonetheless it's by far not the only viable option. Indeed every class well played in a fitting group is able to clear vRG, the reason for using DK is surely not the lack of other viable options. In the end it's a players choice which class he wants to play.

So, once again you are asked: What do you want to demonstrate with your statistic?

Ph1p

Volrath wrote: »

So, group DPS reaches 1K++, will it be 2K if they use HA? I'm just curious about it.

1. You're not reading the log correctly. Group DPS across the fight is 750k, not >1000k.
2. No, they won't reach 2000k with HA builds. That would almost be twice the world record on Bahsei hard mode. Everyone knows that the top 2-bar groups with optimized supports will always outperform HA setups.

Again, what's your point?

Volrath

Braffin wrote: »

Volrath wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

Volrath wrote: »

So, group DPS was 1K, will it be 2K if they use HA? I'm just curious about it.

And here we have it, the next shrouded thread about sergeant brokensorc. Already wondered why there wasn't any till now today.

As for your question: As there is chance of at least 50% the HA user is pressing the wrong button on his mouse and is therefore kicked from group for "blocking like an elitist", the answer is no

Don't be afraid of threats like this. I see no harm or any reason for you to go off-topic and turn this into another Oakensoul thread. I'm just wondering how good DK is in terms of "balance" compared to other classes, that's all. And no, I've never seen a top-tier HA with more DPS than a top-tier 2-bars player.

You're the one asking about HA here, so you got your answer. As in every other thread before and in every upcoming one too.

Regarding class balance: It's no secret that DK is the strongest option for dd at the moment. Nonetheless it's by far not the only viable option. Indeed every class well played in a fitting group is able to clear vRG, the reason for using DK is surely not the lack of other viable options. In the end it's a players choice which class he wants to play.

So, once again you are asked: What do you want to demonstrate with your statistic?

Relax, dude. Every time someone says something about DK, you guys always rage faster than HA players. Just chill, mate. This was not about "statistics." I only want to know how people feel when they see logs like this. I feel bad, very bad.

Braffin

Volrath wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

Volrath wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

Volrath wrote: »

So, group DPS was 1K, will it be 2K if they use HA? I'm just curious about it.

And here we have it, the next shrouded thread about sergeant brokensorc. Already wondered why there wasn't any till now today.

As for your question: As there is chance of at least 50% the HA user is pressing the wrong button on his mouse and is therefore kicked from group for "blocking like an elitist", the answer is no

Don't be afraid of threats like this. I see no harm or any reason for you to go off-topic and turn this into another Oakensoul thread. I'm just wondering how good DK is in terms of "balance" compared to other classes, that's all. And no, I've never seen a top-tier HA with more DPS than a top-tier 2-bars player.

You're the one asking about HA here, so you got your answer. As in every other thread before and in every upcoming one too.

Regarding class balance: It's no secret that DK is the strongest option for dd at the moment. Nonetheless it's by far not the only viable option. Indeed every class well played in a fitting group is able to clear vRG, the reason for using DK is surely not the lack of other viable options. In the end it's a players choice which class he wants to play.

So, once again you are asked: What do you want to demonstrate with your statistic?

Relax, dude. Every time someone says something about DK, you guys always rage faster than HA players. Just chill, mate. This was not about "statistics." I only want to know how people feel when they see logs like this. I feel bad, very bad.

Why exactly do you feel bad by looking at a group's parse you didn't even participate in? What has all of this to do with you and your gaming experience? Care to elaborate?

Volrath

Braffin wrote: »

Why exactly do you feel bad by looking at a group's parse you didn't even participate in? What has all of this to do with you and your gaming experience? Care to elaborate?

I feel bad because I've thought about all the other classes, and not even one comes close to DK. Not a single one! And I wonder why Zenimax doesn't balance all the other classes to allow them to have similar DPS?
Instead of buffing DK again in update 38, wouldn't it be better to buff all the other classes instead?

Heelie

I don't get the point an oakensorc group did Plainsbreaker in a super short prog, so what is the point?

Braffin

Volrath wrote: »

Braffin wrote: »

Why exactly do you feel bad by looking at a group's parse you didn't even participate in? What has all of this to do with you and your gaming experience? Care to elaborate?

I feel bad because I've thought about all the other classes, and not even one comes close to DK. Not a single one! And I wonder why Zenimax doesn't balance all the other classes to allow them to have similar DPS?
Instead of buffing DK again in update 38, wouldn't it be better to buff all the other classes instead?

Don't feel sorry for a class in a game, dude. They aren't living beings and therefore won't be sad about something like dps. Just chill, mate. And enjoy playing the game

In addition I would recommend you to play more eso and less esologs.com. Nobody wanna see you depressed because of a few numbers which mean nothing to most of us, as can be seen clearly in this thread.

FantasticFreddie

DK has top potential damage under ideal conditions. That's it. It's really specific. Plenty of people bring other classes to trials and do just fine

caesarvs

that i'm still continuing to play with my breton magwarden regardless, cuz it's the class I enjoy most