Rare drops, drop locations and drop rates

spartaxoxo

CGPsaint wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

By the way, does anyone know if any mirrors in ESO actually reflect?

Not only do none of the mirrors actually reflect, but there are also Vampiric Mirrors in the game, which is interesting since Vampires can't see their own reflections. You could draw obscene things on a Vampires face and they would never know if nobody told them...

Is that true of Elder Scrolls vampires?

spartaxoxo

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

redlink1979 wrote: »

I already found a Velothi painting in a treasure chest. No triptych yet.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/442092/telvanni-paintings-and-velothi-triptychs

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Back to my questions: Does anyone knows if those alinor mirrors can be farmed somewhere?

No chance to farm them, those Alinor mirrors are only available via Housing Editor.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Suite_Furnishings/Mirrors

Oh i missed your answer, thank you very much how comes, ppl are selling unbound versions of those tho?

The Alinor Crest Townhouse comes with an Alinor Mirror if it's bought furnished. No idea if it's bound or not. I believe there's also a mirror that comes from pickpocketing nobles in Summerset, but I don't remember which one. It's not listed on the Wiki but it does drop from them, I think.

Edit: Found this in my favorites info.

Silverpudel wrote: »

It is piclpocket abel i got the mirrow from a nobel and my friend

ZOS_Hadeostry

Greetings,

After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic, as it's asking for help from others

Thank you for your understanding

ElderOfTamriel

spartaxoxo wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

redlink1979 wrote: »

I already found a Velothi painting in a treasure chest. No triptych yet.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/442092/telvanni-paintings-and-velothi-triptychs

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Back to my questions: Does anyone knows if those alinor mirrors can be farmed somewhere?

No chance to farm them, those Alinor mirrors are only available via Housing Editor.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Suite_Furnishings/Mirrors

Oh i missed your answer, thank you very much how comes, ppl are selling unbound versions of those tho?

The Alinor Crest Townhouse comes with an Alinor Mirror if it's bought furnished. No idea if it's bound or not. I believe there's also a mirror that comes from pickpocketing nobles in Summerset, but I don't remember which one. It's not listed on the Wiki but it does drop from them, I think.

Edit: Found this in my favorites info.

Silverpudel wrote: »

It is piclpocket abel i got the mirrow from a nobel and my friend

Oh wow this info is awesome, thank you very much @spartaxoxo ! Yeah i know that one mirror, the noble one, comes with the furnished Alinor Crest Townhouse, but unfortunately all furniture that comes with a furnished house are bound. Were these Mirrors renamed probably? Bcs i cant find any high elf mirrors but i can find the Alinor ones (Noble, Ornate, Verdant).
Also is this a book you can obtain somewhere? I need to get this

Also might it be possible they patched these mirrors out?

ElderOfTamriel

@Silverpudel You got any information about these mirrors and can probably confirm the name changed?

Jaraal

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

None can confirm where those mirrors came from? have seen 2 of them for sale already so they must drop unbound somewhere.

They are pickpocket loot from Summerset nobles.

Jaraal

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Were these Mirrors renamed probably? Bcs i cant find any high elf mirrors but i can find the Alinor ones (Noble, Ornate, Verdant).

There isn't anything in game named "High Elf Mirror, xxxx." There are three Alinor mirrors, though, that can be pickpocketed.

ElderOfTamriel

Jaraal wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

None can confirm where those mirrors came from? have seen 2 of them for sale already so they must drop unbound somewhere.

They are pickpocket loot from Summerset nobles.

Thank you very much for confirming! =D Now the grind can start... ^^ Yeah i thought so but according to the picuture spartaxoxo sent, its called High Elf Mirror. Must be very old and probably renamed i guess.

ElderOfTamriel

i found out that the screenshot provided by spartaxoxo most likely is out of the Razum-Dars Journal from the Summerset Collectors Edition. Before i buy them all: Does anyone knows if such a drop list also exists in other Collectors Edition books? Does anyone have the Summerset or another one and would provide screenshots of that/those lists? Would already help a lot if anyone could confirm the existence of those drop lists in other collectors books so i can try to get one of those on ebay.

Jaraal

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

i found out that the screenshot provided by spartaxoxo most likely is out of the Razum-Dars Journal from the Summerset Collectors Edition. Before i buy them all: Does anyone knows if such a drop list also exists in other Collectors Edition books? Does anyone have the Summerset or another one and would provide screenshots of that/those lists? Would already help a lot if anyone could confirm the existence of those drop lists in other collectors books so i can try to get one of those on ebay.

I believe the book you are looking for is called "The Elder Scrolls Online: Summerset: Official Collector's Edition Guide." And if I recall correctly, during the Summerset PTS the new furnishings all had "High Elf" in the title, but partway through they changed everything to "Alinor" to avoid the new items being confused with old world High Elf furnishings. The hard copy books and reference guides had already been printed, so they were not changed and re-released. Also, some of those items listed in that photo have never been found, and likely didn't make it to release as printed.

Incidentally, there are ESO housing groups on Facebook (and probably other platforms) that keep lists of rare furnishings and their drop locations. If you are interested in such things, I would recommend looking into some. I know I personally have learned a lot from them, and they have a lot of housing tours, displays, and pictorials as well.

MafiaCat115

Jaraal wrote: »

Incidentally, there are ESO housing groups on Facebook (and probably other platforms) that keep lists of rare furnishings and their drop locations. If you are interested in such things, I would recommend looking into some. I know I personally have learned a lot from them, and they have a lot of housing tours, displays, and pictorials as well.

I have looked, but no such groups are coming up for me on Facebook. Would you be able to DM me a few names, or comment them on this thread? I'd love to look more into them

ElderOfTamriel

Jaraal wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

i found out that the screenshot provided by spartaxoxo most likely is out of the Razum-Dars Journal from the Summerset Collectors Edition. Before i buy them all: Does anyone knows if such a drop list also exists in other Collectors Edition books? Does anyone have the Summerset or another one and would provide screenshots of that/those lists? Would already help a lot if anyone could confirm the existence of those drop lists in other collectors books so i can try to get one of those on ebay.

I believe the book you are looking for is called "The Elder Scrolls Online: Summerset: Official Collector's Edition Guide." And if I recall correctly, during the Summerset PTS the new furnishings all had "High Elf" in the title, but partway through they changed everything to "Alinor" to avoid the new items being confused with old world High Elf furnishings. The hard copy books and reference guides had already been printed, so they were not changed and re-released. Also, some of those items listed in that photo have never been found, and likely didn't make it to release as printed.

Incidentally, there are ESO housing groups on Facebook (and probably other platforms) that keep lists of rare furnishings and their drop locations. If you are interested in such things, I would recommend looking into some. I know I personally have learned a lot from them, and they have a lot of housing tours, displays, and pictorials as well.

Hmm, very strange. Whats the point in listening those items as a drop in a collectors edition book and then they are not available? I found the items on Eso Hub tho.


Also i havent found any Clothier Artisans on Summersend so far and ive looked through all the 3 cities on it. Found a blacksmither but no Clothier. Probably thats why no one ever found it? Very sad tho its like that Or did Clothier got patched out and were replaced by just normal Artisans? Can anyone from ZOS/Bethesda make a statement to this topic/especially these items in the book? @ZOS_Hadeostry ? Also i would love to have a look into those groups, you may link them here @Jaraal ?

Jaraal

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

i found out that the screenshot provided by spartaxoxo most likely is out of the Razum-Dars Journal from the Summerset Collectors Edition. Before i buy them all: Does anyone knows if such a drop list also exists in other Collectors Edition books? Does anyone have the Summerset or another one and would provide screenshots of that/those lists? Would already help a lot if anyone could confirm the existence of those drop lists in other collectors books so i can try to get one of those on ebay.

I believe the book you are looking for is called "The Elder Scrolls Online: Summerset: Official Collector's Edition Guide." And if I recall correctly, during the Summerset PTS the new furnishings all had "High Elf" in the title, but partway through they changed everything to "Alinor" to avoid the new items being confused with old world High Elf furnishings. The hard copy books and reference guides had already been printed, so they were not changed and re-released. Also, some of those items listed in that photo have never been found, and likely didn't make it to release as printed.

Incidentally, there are ESO housing groups on Facebook (and probably other platforms) that keep lists of rare furnishings and their drop locations. If you are interested in such things, I would recommend looking into some. I know I personally have learned a lot from them, and they have a lot of housing tours, displays, and pictorials as well.

Hmm, very strange. Whats the point in listening those items as a drop in a collectors edition book and then they are not available? I found the items on Eso Hub tho.


Also i havent found any Clothier Artisans on Summersend so far and ive looked through all the 3 cities on it. Found a blacksmither but no Clothier. Probably thats why no one ever found it? Very sad tho its like that Or did Clothier got patched out and were replaced by just normal Artisans? Can anyone from ZOS/Bethesda make a statement to this topic/especially these items in the book? @ZOS_Hadeostry ? Also i would love to have a look into those groups, you may link them here @Jaraal ?

You can buy those runners from the Housing Editor purchase tab, but they are not listed on TTC, so none have ever been sold. That means that they either don't drop, or are the rarest item in the game, if none have been sold in all the years since Summerset dropped.

Also, there are Artisans in Summerset, and they do drop furnishing plans.

SeaGtGruff

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Interesting. I got the Khajiit Enchanted Brazier plan but have never found a triptych or a red spool of thread in Vvardenfell.

Haha, yeah but almost none has any information about those rare drops so i thought i would give it a try and see if anyone in here has some valid information

Is this the spool of red thread you all are talking about?

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Spool,_Red_Thread

CGPsaint

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Interesting. I got the Khajiit Enchanted Brazier plan but have never found a triptych or a red spool of thread in Vvardenfell.

Haha, yeah but almost none has any information about those rare drops so i thought i would give it a try and see if anyone in here has some valid information

Is this the spool of red thread you all are talking about?

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Spool,_Red_Thread

I can confirm that this item drops, however it is a really low drop rate.

ElderOfTamriel

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Interesting. I got the Khajiit Enchanted Brazier plan but have never found a triptych or a red spool of thread in Vvardenfell.

Haha, yeah but almost none has any information about those rare drops so i thought i would give it a try and see if anyone in here has some valid information

Is this the spool of red thread you all are talking about?

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Spool,_Red_Thread

Yes exactly, i dropped it myself after almost 2 hours.

Heres an awesome guide to farm for it, if anyone is interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/10bhas8/for_item_collectors_heres_where_to_farm_the/

Jaraal wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

i found out that the screenshot provided by spartaxoxo most likely is out of the Razum-Dars Journal from the Summerset Collectors Edition. Before i buy them all: Does anyone knows if such a drop list also exists in other Collectors Edition books? Does anyone have the Summerset or another one and would provide screenshots of that/those lists? Would already help a lot if anyone could confirm the existence of those drop lists in other collectors books so i can try to get one of those on ebay.

I believe the book you are looking for is called "The Elder Scrolls Online: Summerset: Official Collector's Edition Guide." And if I recall correctly, during the Summerset PTS the new furnishings all had "High Elf" in the title, but partway through they changed everything to "Alinor" to avoid the new items being confused with old world High Elf furnishings. The hard copy books and reference guides had already been printed, so they were not changed and re-released. Also, some of those items listed in that photo have never been found, and likely didn't make it to release as printed.

Incidentally, there are ESO housing groups on Facebook (and probably other platforms) that keep lists of rare furnishings and their drop locations. If you are interested in such things, I would recommend looking into some. I know I personally have learned a lot from them, and they have a lot of housing tours, displays, and pictorials as well.

Hmm, very strange. Whats the point in listening those items as a drop in a collectors edition book and then they are not available? I found the items on Eso Hub tho.


Also i havent found any Clothier Artisans on Summersend so far and ive looked through all the 3 cities on it. Found a blacksmither but no Clothier. Probably thats why no one ever found it? Very sad tho its like that Or did Clothier got patched out and were replaced by just normal Artisans? Can anyone from ZOS/Bethesda make a statement to this topic/especially these items in the book? @ZOS_Hadeostry ? Also i would love to have a look into those groups, you may link them here @Jaraal ?

You can buy those runners from the Housing Editor purchase tab, but they are not listed on TTC, so none have ever been sold. That means that they either don't drop, or are the rarest item in the game, if none have been sold in all the years since Summerset dropped.

Also, there are Artisans in Summerset, and they do drop furnishing plans.

Yeah i know there are artisans but i havent found a Clothier Artisan specifically, from where these runners are supposed to drop. Same goes for those 2 items, according to an addon ive installed, they should drop from plant nodes on Vvardenfell but theyre also not in the TTC database, so have never been found unbound:



A statement from ZOS would be highly appreciated.

ElderOfTamriel

Silverpudel wrote: »

It is piclpocket abel i got the mirrow from a nobel and my friend

Got insanely lucky today and was able to pickpocket not 1 but 2 of the Alinor Pew plans right after i laundred the 1st one and went back to farming ^^ No luck on the mirrors so far tho, have seen another one sold for 10M just this evening. Was not even in the trader for an hour and already bought. There is also a Verdant one for sale rn.

ElderOfTamriel

Heard voices saying that the Mirrors are discontinued and dont drop from nobles on Summerset anymore... What should i believe now?

Jaraal

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Heard voices saying that the Mirrors are discontinued and dont drop from nobles on Summerset anymore... What should i believe now?

That would be highly unusual for them to stealth remove a furnishing from the loot pool. I'm not aware of any precedent for that... or why they would do it.

CGPsaint

Jaraal wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Heard voices saying that the Mirrors are discontinued and dont drop from nobles on Summerset anymore... What should i believe now?

That would be highly unusual for them to stealth remove a furnishing from the loot pool. I'm not aware of any precedent for that... or why they would do it.

Forgetting the whole Skooma Bubbler debacle? The original drop location was inside of a specific quest in a DLC zone and could only be accessed by characters who were at a certain stage of the Thieves Guild quest line. Once you passed that quest, you could only access with a different character. That caused a big outcry, so ZOS moved the drop location out of the quest and added it to Drunkards all over Tamriel which is what they should have done in the first place.

Jaraal

CGPsaint wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Heard voices saying that the Mirrors are discontinued and dont drop from nobles on Summerset anymore... What should i believe now?

That would be highly unusual for them to stealth remove a furnishing from the loot pool. I'm not aware of any precedent for that... or why they would do it.

Forgetting the whole Skooma Bubbler debacle? The original drop location was inside of a specific quest in a DLC zone and could only be accessed by characters who were at a certain stage of the Thieves Guild quest line. Once you passed that quest, you could only access with a different character. That caused a big outcry, so ZOS moved the drop location out of the quest and added it to Drunkards all over Tamriel which is what they should have done in the first place.

Yes, but they didn't remove the item/plan, and they announced that they were nerfing the quest farm in advance. If they moved the Alinor mirrors to another location, someone would have found them by now. They may have reduced the drop rate, because the mirrors are rarely sold these days. And, to be fair, a lot fewer people steal in Summerset than when the DLC first dropped.

One of the mirrors was available for tickets during the Summerset event, and they can be purchased in the housing editor store. But there's no logical reason they would just remove them from the loot pool.

@ZOS_Kevin , can you ask your team if they removed the three Alinor Wall mirrors from the drop tables? Perhaps by accident, when they added one to the Impresario? Or was that a planned move to encourage ticket sales?

ElderOfTamriel

Jaraal wrote: »

Yes, but they didn't remove the item/plan, and they announced that they were nerfing the quest farm in advance. If they moved the Alinor mirrors to another location, someone would have found them by now. They may have reduced the drop rate, because the mirrors are rarely sold these days. And, to be fair, a lot fewer people steal in Summerset than when the DLC first dropped.

One of the mirrors was available for tickets during the Summerset event, and they can be purchased in the housing editor store. But there's no logical reason they would just remove them from the loot pool.

@ZOS_Kevin , can you ask your team if they removed the three Alinor Wall mirrors from the drop tables? Perhaps by accident, when they added one to the Impresario? Or was that a planned move to encourage ticket sales?

That would be so awesome so i can ensure im not wasting many hours of my life farming for those mirrors and not even have the chance on getting them Would also love some information about the table runners which are shown in the screenshot above. If you could say anything about the drop rates that would be perfect! =D

Beside that, how comes that there are plenty of items which should only be available in the housing editor tab, through item bundles or crown-bought houses are getting sold unbound in the guild traders?

ElderOfTamriel

Whats about the "Alinor Writing Desk, Noble" plan which is supposed to drop from woodworking artisans on summerset?
According to UESP there is no woodworker located on summerset.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Category:Online-Pickpocketable_NPCs-Woodworker

Did they patch that out and put it in the writ voucher containers from Rollis?

ElderOfTamriel

Jaraal wrote: »

CGPsaint wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Heard voices saying that the Mirrors are discontinued and dont drop from nobles on Summerset anymore... What should i believe now?

That would be highly unusual for them to stealth remove a furnishing from the loot pool. I'm not aware of any precedent for that... or why they would do it.

Forgetting the whole Skooma Bubbler debacle? The original drop location was inside of a specific quest in a DLC zone and could only be accessed by characters who were at a certain stage of the Thieves Guild quest line. Once you passed that quest, you could only access with a different character. That caused a big outcry, so ZOS moved the drop location out of the quest and added it to Drunkards all over Tamriel which is what they should have done in the first place.

Yes, but they didn't remove the item/plan, and they announced that they were nerfing the quest farm in advance. If they moved the Alinor mirrors to another location, someone would have found them by now. They may have reduced the drop rate, because the mirrors are rarely sold these days. And, to be fair, a lot fewer people steal in Summerset than when the DLC first dropped.

One of the mirrors was available for tickets during the Summerset event, and they can be purchased in the housing editor store. But there's no logical reason they would just remove them from the loot pool.

@ZOS_Kevin , can you ask your team if they removed the three Alinor Wall mirrors from the drop tables? Perhaps by accident, when they added one to the Impresario? Or was that a planned move to encourage ticket sales?

@ZOS_Kevin thx mate =D

CGPsaint

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Whats about the "Alinor Writing Desk, Noble" plan which is supposed to drop from woodworking artisans on summerset?
According to UESP there is no woodworker located on summerset.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Category:Online-Pickpocketable_NPCs-Woodworker

Did they patch that out and put it in the writ voucher containers from Rollis?

This plan drops from Artisan NPCs and you can find one at the bottom right of the Alinor city map. You will see a path heading south and ending in a circle. I farmed that NPC and managed to pull well over a dozen maps which I sold for a tidy profit back when Summerset released.

Jaraal

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Got insanely lucky today and was able to pickpocket not 1 but 2 of the Alinor Pew plans right after i laundred the 1st one and went back to farming

I've also looted this plan from a "Healer" NPC.

ElderOfTamriel

CGPsaint wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Whats about the "Alinor Writing Desk, Noble" plan which is supposed to drop from woodworking artisans on summerset?
According to UESP there is no woodworker located on summerset.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Category:Online-Pickpocketable_NPCs-Woodworker

Did they patch that out and put it in the writ voucher containers from Rollis?

This plan drops from Artisan NPCs and you can find one at the bottom right of the Alinor city map. You will see a path heading south and ending in a circle. I farmed that NPC and managed to pull well over a dozen maps which I sold for a tidy profit back when Summerset released.

Thats awesome, i always pass by that artisan on my Alinor pickpocket route, might take him in too then dropped a axe from him yesterday (should drop from woodworkers), so i already had thought that the plan might drop there aswell.

Jaraal wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Got insanely lucky today and was able to pickpocket not 1 but 2 of the Alinor Pew plans right after i laundred the 1st one and went back to farming

I've also looted this plan from a "Healer" NPC.

Thats interesting, doesnt really makes sense to me but thanks for the info! Guess only from "Healer" NPCs in Summerset? Have only found 2 of those.

ElderOfTamriel

Hmm, ive just read some interesting facts about pickpocketing:

1.) You will get better chances on better loot the lower the % of a successful theft are. Means, youll likely get better drops on 2nd and 3rd pickpocket attempt. (best chances for good drops on thieves, assassins, guards, nobles, and mages since % are the "worst" there)
2.) You will get better drops when increasing youre Legerdemain (Thieves Guild) skill line.

Are these true? So i should probably get my Thieves Guild to lvl20 before i try any longer to get one of the Alinor Mirrors? Im only lvl10 so far. Also i have no clue if that only counts for the common pickpocketable items or aswell for plans/furnishing drops.

Jaraal

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Hmm, ive just read some interesting facts about pickpocketing:

1.) You will get better chances on better loot the lower the % of a successful theft are. Means, youll likely get better drops on 2nd and 3rd pickpocket attempt. (best chances for good drops on thieves, assassins, guards, nobles, and mages since % are the "worst" there)
2.) You will get better drops when increasing youre Legerdemain (Thieves Guild) skill line.

Are these true? So i should probably get my Thieves Guild to lvl20 before i try any longer to get one of the Alinor Mirrors? Im only lvl10 so far. Also i have no clue if that only counts for the common pickpocketable items or aswell for plans/furnishing drops.

The first one is false. NPCs with lower chance of success have better loot overall, but their drops are not weighted from least valuable to most valuable as you pick. Many times you will get the best item on the first pick, and trash on the last. And vise versa.

Yes, you will get better quality loot at a higher rate the higher your Legerdemain skill is. And there's a CP passive that also increases the value of pickpocketed items. But the Thieves Guild skill line has no effect on loot quality. It only affects how many items you can sell/launder, how much gold you get for them, and helps you to get caught less and pay less bounty.

ElderOfTamriel

Jaraal wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Hmm, ive just read some interesting facts about pickpocketing:

1.) You will get better chances on better loot the lower the % of a successful theft are. Means, youll likely get better drops on 2nd and 3rd pickpocket attempt. (best chances for good drops on thieves, assassins, guards, nobles, and mages since % are the "worst" there)
2.) You will get better drops when increasing youre Legerdemain (Thieves Guild) skill line.

Are these true? So i should probably get my Thieves Guild to lvl20 before i try any longer to get one of the Alinor Mirrors? Im only lvl10 so far. Also i have no clue if that only counts for the common pickpocketable items or aswell for plans/furnishing drops.

The first one is false. NPCs with lower chance of success have better loot overall, but their drops are not weighted from least valuable to most valuable as you pick. Many times you will get the best item on the first pick, and trash on the last. And vise versa.

Yes, you will get better quality loot at a higher rate the higher your Legerdemain skill is. And there's a CP passive that also increases the value of pickpocketed items. But the Thieves Guild skill line has no effect on loot quality. It only affects how many items you can sell/launder, how much gold you get for them, and helps you to get caught less and pay less bounty.

Alright thank you