PSA to new PVP folks

blktauna

Please have the courtesy to ressurrect your team mates when the opportunity presents itself. If you can't in the heat of battle thats understood but do not stand on the dead bodies of your fellos and ignore their plight.

Also get a camp or two.

ArchMikem

The ones ignoring you in Cyro will also ignore you here. It's a clique thing, they don't res those they don't know/like.

blktauna

Fools be foolin but there might be some people who genuinely don't know the etiquette.

SeaGtGruff

I try to rez anyone I can, but sometimes it ends with me getting killed, too. That's just the risk you take-- the same risk anyone who rezzes you must take.

Also, everyone should go to their Skills, Alliance War, Support, Passive, get the Battle Resurrection skill, and upgrade it. This will let you rez your fellow players faster.

vsrs_au

blktauna wrote: »

Fools be foolin but there might be some people who genuinely don't know the etiquette.

Is the etiquette described anywhere? As a newcomer to PvP myself, I'd find that useful.

Thormar

vsrs_au wrote: »

Is the etiquette described anywhere? As a newcomer to PvP myself, I'd find that useful.

Here are two links, not sure to what extent they'll meet your needs though.

pvp-for-the-no-pvp-pacifists:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/469835/pvp-for-the-no-pvp-pacifists#latest
As per VaranisArano's correction below, the above has an updated version here:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/633232/whitestrakes-mayhem-101-may-2023
pvp-etiquette:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/293729/pvp-etiquette/p1

ProudMary

Always rez your team mates. Even if they're bad players they're still a meat shield if nothing else. It's just better strat to rez your team mates as well as being the polite, team spirit right thing to do.

VaranisArano

Thormar wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

Is the etiquette described anywhere? As a newcomer to PvP myself, I'd find that useful.

Here are two links, not sure to what extent they'll meet your needs though.

pvp-for-the-no-pvp-pacifists:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/469835/pvp-for-the-no-pvp-pacifists#latest
pvp-etiquette:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/293729/pvp-etiquette/p1

The first link has a much more updated version here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/633232/whitestrakes-mayhem-101-may-2023


As far as my thoughts on PVP etiquette and rezzes go...

If you're in a group, prioritize staying with your group. Revive people in your group and then others if you can, but above all, what's the point of playing with a group if you aren't with them? Side note: if your group wipes and you can't rez them, you might as well die with them so you all rez up at the same keep.

If you're not in a group, prioritize staying alive. Just like how dead DDs deal no DPS, you can't revive anyone if you die yourself. If you can revive others safely, great, go for it.

RoxyPhoenix

I run solo and 4/5 times someone rezzes me, so yeh, lots of good folks out there, I really can't complain. If I'm not rezzed that usually means everyone else is dead too lol.

Beaverton

ProudMary wrote: »

Always rez your team mates. Even if they're bad players they're still a meat shield if nothing else. It's just better strat to rez your team mates as well as being the polite, team spirit right thing to do.

Are they meat shields or Plague bombs? I can never really tell. . . .

xNepo

Sometimes you might get unlucky in rezzing randoms who do not want to be rezzed as they are waiting for group commands. Do not take it personally. You may end up not rezzing anyone due to pending resurections.

Thormar

VaranisArano wrote: »

The first link has a much more updated version here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/633232/whitestrakes-mayhem-101-may-2023

Thanks for the correction, will update my previous comment accordingly.

SeaGtGruff

ProudMary wrote: »

Always rez your team mates. Even if they're bad players they're still a meat shield if nothing else. It's just better strat to rez your team mates as well as being the polite, team spirit right thing to do.

I probably qualify for that!

xNepo wrote: »

Sometimes you might get unlucky in rezzing randoms who do not want to be rezzed as they are waiting for group commands. Do not take it personally. You may end up not rezzing anyone due to pending resurections.

That happened to me the other night-- someone declined my rez. This was with no enemy players around, just enemy NPCs at the resource I was taking back.

But sometimes it's best to wait before accepting someone's rez. Later that night I was killed many times, and was rezzed a lot, only to immediately get killed again by enemies who had run over to try to stop the player rezzing me.

Jamie_Aubrey

If I'm dead and you rez me and I decline doesn't mean I don't want it just means I'm most likely waiting on crown directions on where to port

BenTSG

It would help if we could rez multiple people as well, instead of waiting for the last person you did to respond to it

maxjapank

Not only rez people, but burn siege. I've seen 5-6 players run past oils trying to kill 1 dude when a couple of those players could burn the oils on the ledge. Burning one oil takes 2 seconds. And not doing so often leads to multiple deaths.

katanagirl1

blktauna wrote: »

Please have the courtesy to ressurrect your team mates when the opportunity presents itself. If you can't in the heat of battle thats understood but do not stand on the dead bodies of your fellos and ignore their plight.

Also get a camp or two.

I think (but could be mistaken) that camps require AP to buy? They’re pretty expensive, too.

I’d recommend getting at least a few oils and ballistae. You can buy those with gold.

SeaGtGruff

You can get forward camps in your event coffers, as well as siege engines.

You can also get siege, keep masonry, and keep door repair kits. Whenever I rez at a forward camp, I check its "health" and use a siege repair kit if it's low.

Also, don't forget to burn any enemy forward camps that you find.

disintegr8

It's possibly the same people who don't know what a repair kit is.

BenTSG

katanagirl1 wrote: »

blktauna wrote: »

Please have the courtesy to ressurrect your team mates when the opportunity presents itself. If you can't in the heat of battle thats understood but do not stand on the dead bodies of your fellos and ignore their plight.

Also get a camp or two.

I think (but could be mistaken) that camps require AP to buy? They’re pretty expensive, too.

I’d recommend getting at least a few oils and ballistae. You can buy those with gold.

I'm pretty sure you also need to be a certain Alliance Rank to purchase them as well, not sure about earning them through the reward boxes though.

SeaGtGruff

disintegr8 wrote: »

It's possibly the same people who don't know what a repair kit is.

Well, figuring out how to use a repair kit can be a little counter-intuitive, because being allowed to use the quick-slotted kit can depend on how far you are from the thing you want to repair as well as the way you're facing. It took me a while to figure out how to repair postern walls, because even though the prompt was there the game kept saying I was too far away. It was purely by accident that I figured out I needed to turn and face the wall.

I have a number of forward camps in the bank, saved up from over the years, but I'm afraid to try to use them. The first (and last) time I used one, thinking I was being a great hero and stuff for putting up a camp, I placed it too far away from the keep we were sieging and apparently nobody could rez there. I swear, I had run all over trying to find a place that was level enough to let me put up the camp, and had no idea that proximity was important. I don't think anyone knew I'd been the one to put up the camp, but there were quite a few comments in chat about how our alliance didn't know how to set up a camp. Oops.

Dr_Con

insufficient context is provided to take this psa seriously.

it's free AP, no reason not to rez unless someone is sabotaging your faction (hence why people with low HP do not get revived)- if you want to know why I shouldn't rez the 16k glass cannon player then look no further than vicious death and plaguebreak procs... these lower hp people should work on getting it so they have over 30k hp on their builds minimum... other than that if someone's dead in the middle of nowhere i assume they are afk, and that's my only other non-obvious exception for ignoring a revive.

a more informative PSA would be to tell people to accept their revives or deny them so that the person trying to rez you can rez another person, since putting a rez on others locks the ability to rez until the rez is accepted or rejected.

SeaGtGruff

When I get killed, I usually rez myself back at the nearest keep or camp, but sometimes I just lay there watching the fight or studying the map.

If someone rezzes me, I usually take the rez right away so they can rez someone else, even if I'm likely to get killed again.

Luede

there are a few reasons why i don't resurrect players.

1) the player dies for the third time almost instantaneously and apparently has neither a heal slotted, nor does he pay attention to his life bar and thinks the others are his healbots.

2) the walk from the resurrection point is not much longer than it takes to resurrect him (keep is not under attack).

3) he trolls in any way, be it in chat, or with his game behavior

SandandStars

I always rez people. It is strategic, kind, and the right thing to do.

Just because it’s a video game doesn’t mean you cannot conduct yourself with decency and integrity.

Jaraal

Sometimes people will prefer to stay on the ground to get ticks and AP.

If they get killed after fighting a bunch of people and dropping a lot of AoEs... especially in a three alliance battle... they'd rather stay in the area after everybody on their team wipes and cash in as the people they tagged start dying. You can also get flag and keep capture and defense ticks while dead, IF you stay in the area. Or sometimes people are just browsing their death recaps and don't even see your rez attempt, or they are taking advantage of the safety of their death to get a sandwich or use a bio break.

Another situation, especially in IC, is if you get killed while fighting a District boss, especially if it's in a district your faction doesn't control, you'll want to stay dead until the boss is killed to see if you have looting rights or not. If the battle ends and the boss' corpse is outlined in yellow, then you know it's worth the potential suicide run to try to loot it. And if it's not, then just rez at your base and on to the next.

Finally, you'd be surprised at how many people don't realize that someone can't rez anyone else until you accept or decline the rez. Always decline it ASAP if you plan on staying on the ground, and likewise accept it as soon as possible so they can rez someone else.

SeaGtGruff

Jaraal wrote: »

Another situation, especially in IC, is if you get killed while fighting a District boss, especially if it's in a district your faction doesn't control, you'll want to stay dead until the boss is killed to see if you have looting rights or not. If the battle ends and the boss' corpse is outlined in yellow, then you know it's worth the potential suicide run to try to loot it. And if it's not, then just rez at your base and on to the next.

I've used this myself in IC, but not for looting rights; rather it was in the hope of getting credit for the kill for an endeavor. If the enemy players draw the boss too far away from where you're lying dead, you might want to quickly release and jump back into the fight so the boss will hopefully be close enough to your (second) corpse when the enemy players finally kill it.

OtarTheMad

I usually run solo and while sometimes I don’t get rezzed, I get it… don’t know me and a lot of groups have leaders with rules to just leave people dead unless they are group members.

Also, I always try to put down a camp but sometimes it’s just not possible. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen people being mad in zone about no camps but most likely from where they were they did not realize that the enemy have people looking for camps and burning them or killing the ones trying to put them down.

OutLaw_Nynx

I always rez people

Marcus684

Luede wrote: »

there are a few reasons why i don't resurrect players.

1) the player dies for the third time almost instantaneously and apparently has neither a heal slotted, nor does he pay attention to his life bar and thinks the others are his healbots.

2) the walk from the resurrection point is not much longer than it takes to resurrect him (keep is not under attack).

3) he trolls in any way, be it in chat, or with his game behavior

For sure number 1. If I have to stop pouring oils twice to rez your squishy behind because you think you can light attack the Zerg below to death, I’m not doing it a 3rd time.

geonsocal

I wish there was an achievement related to rezzing players in cyrodiil...

I was happy to see they added a rez "quest" to the daily endeavors...

for me rezzing is like a mini-game in cyrodiil - i know for sure I'm trying to prevent enemies from rezzing more enemies...

it's fun to rez folks during difficult situations...