Daily reward system is garbage

crchbizb14_ESO

There needs to be 3 or 4 days at the end of it with nothing to make it a little fair for everyone to get it when emergencies and maintenance happens. So now I am missing 3k telvar stones I can't get because you did maintenance one day this week and I had an emergency last night. This is absolute garbage, no more plus subscription till you either fix this garbage or allow us to buy missed days with gold/crowns.

rpa

If the daily login rewards are so important part of the game that missing some make you quit you definitely need to take a long break from it all. I'd suggest physical exercise outdoors.

Monte_Cristo

They used to put the big reward at the end of the month, and people missed out on it if they missed a day or two. Now, the big reward in about 2/3 or 3/4 of the way through, so there's more leeway. Making the last few days give nothing would annoy people who do get on and claim the reward every day.
There's nothing wrong with the current model. You can't always get everything.

SeaGtGruff

I think the responses are correct, but are overlooking something. The OP is specifically upset about missing out on 3k Tel Var Stones. The reason I think that's particularly pertinent is because to a lot of players that's a more or less trivial amount which many players could easily farm several times over in the span of an hour. Getting that upset over a "mere" 3k Tel Var suggests to me that the OP is someone to whom that is actually a good bit of Tel Var-- a fairly new player, perhaps, or someone who is generally unable (due to character level, build, etc.) to successfully farm Tel Var in IC without being constantly ganked to the point of bitter frustration.

My advice would be to try to group up with some other players in your alliance and try to farm some Tel Var together, either in the IC districts or in the IC sewers. There's safety in numbers, and it shouldn't take very long before you make a lot more than 3k Tel Var. Just remember to bank it afterward!

jad11mumbler

crchbizb14_ESO wrote: »

There needs to be 3 or 4 days at the end of it with nothing to make it a little fair for everyone to get it when emergencies and maintenance happens. So now I am missing 3k telvar stones I can't get because you did maintenance one day this week and I had an emergency last night. This is absolute garbage, no more plus subscription till you either fix this garbage or allow us to buy missed days with gold/crowns.

No, no it doesn't.

The rewards at the end are garbage, the "good rewards" having already been moved to the middle of the month to make it fair for everyone.

3k tel var is next to nothing, and you're unsubscribing & salty over it? Lol.

SeaGtGruff

I don't know that *I* would call 3k Tel Var "nothing," but I can certainly earn that much in under an hour outside of this event, so whenever I miss the last day's reward (which is almost never, but it has happened), I just go to IC and farm Tel Var for an hour to make up for it.

fleetingyouth_ESO

Your mistake is that you think these are rewards for you logging in when they are actually a tactic to convince you to log in when you probably wouldn't or don't have time to. Or in the OP's case that you are somehow missing out on something of value. You are not.

They are not rewarding you they are tricking you into thinking whatever time, even if only a couple of mins, you log in to get that reward is a worthwhile use of time. It is not. It is not designed for your enjoyment or the player's benefit but for their need to keep people playing.

I suggest to not fixate and fall for the daily, routine, rewards/tactics. Eventually, you won't play this game, and those routine activities you feel compelled to play or collect won't be the fond memories you look back on.

MreeBiPolar

Dailies are there to make the game your job. Should give days off

Amottica

rpa wrote: »

If the daily login rewards are so important part of the game that missing some make you quit you definitely need to take a long break from it all. I'd suggest physical exercise outdoors.

I agree.

First off, the biggest rewards is often about three weeks into the monthly reward track so it does give players some days they can miss where they do not miss the biggest item.

Second, that daily login reward system should never be a cash grab as is being suggested. That could lead Zenimax to make those rewards for the last few days much more interesting to drive crown sales.

Tandor

For me, any amount of telvar is garbage as I have no use for it whatsoever. At least the AP rewards give me an occasional skill point. However, I'm totally relaxed about getting telvar anyway because it's just one or two rewards a month and I have little interest in most of the "good" rewards like face markings and crates etc. Try as I might, I simply can't get overly excited about the rewards whether I get them or miss them.

Gargath

crchbizb14_ESO wrote: »

This is absolute garbage, no more plus subscription till you either fix this garbage or allow us to buy missed days with gold/crowns.

You see a dependance between daily login rewards that are available for everyone not only subscribers, and a plus subscription that has nothing in common with daily rewards?

For me, those daily rewards are ZOS good will, so my advise is, be gratefull rather for what you receive free of charge, than complain you missed something.

tmbrinks

I think the system is fair, the "big" reward is not the last one.

That said, another game I play has it so that the weekend days are "catch up days", you get the first reward after logging in, and a second after an hour of gameplay time, but only if you are behind (that is, you missed a day previously). Which I do not think would be a bad option, as it would allow for more options for players.

sPark101

The 3,000 Telvani reward is at the end of the month so the OP is correct.

TaSheen

The only thing I do with Tel Var is buy hakeijo when I need them. So if I miss a reward, I just shrug.

TybaltKaine

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

I think the responses are correct, but are overlooking something. The OP is specifically upset about missing out on 3k Tel Var Stones. The reason I think that's particularly pertinent is because to a lot of players that's a more or less trivial amount which many players could easily farm several times over in the span of an hour. Getting that upset over a "mere" 3k Tel Var suggests to me that the OP is someone to whom that is actually a good bit of Tel Var-- a fairly new player, perhaps, or someone who is generally unable (due to character level, build, etc.) to successfully farm Tel Var in IC without being constantly ganked to the point of bitter frustration.

My advice would be to try to group up with some other players in your alliance and try to farm some Tel Var together, either in the IC districts or in the IC sewers. There's safety in numbers, and it shouldn't take very long before you make a lot more than 3k Tel Var. Just remember to bank it afterward!

This is the most reasonable response here. Bagging on the OP because they are upset over missing 3k Tel Var isn't helping. This person is upset because that amount matters to them. If it is easy for you, awesome, but don't assume that is the case for everyone.

OP, if you need someone to farm Tel Var with, let me know. I play on the PC NA server and also on the Xbox NA server. I'm usually around to help with anything. I'm not amazing at PVP, but I'm experienced enough to know how to get in, get some stones and get out without getting ganked.

Grizzbeorn

TybaltKaine wrote: »

This person is upset because

Irrelevant.

Manner of expression matters. Being upset doesn't grant the right to spew angry insulting (calling someone's work "garbage") words.
One should be able to express displeasure civilly and respectfully, rather than throw a fit.

(speaking as someone who has thrown a fit on the forums, and was rightfully ignored.)

TybaltKaine

I don't think referring to the situation as garbage equates the work to garbage. But that is beyond the scope of the post.

Telling a person to go outside and mocking them for being upset over what you consider trivial are also unacceptable behavior. For all the "This community is so welcoming" posts I see, I also see way more like this, where people in these forums try to police someone's enjoyment of the game and their reactions.

We all have the right to express ourselves how we see fit, and while it may seem rude to you, it doesn't invalidate the feeling of the person involved. I accept all these comments as having equal merit, as they all come from a different perspective, but I also know that we can do better as a community when one of us is upset, no matter what they are upset about.

Grizzbeorn

TybaltKaine wrote: »

Telling a person to go outside and mocking them for being upset over what you consider trivial are also unacceptable behavior.

Again...

Manner of expression matters.


People who express themselves politely do not get those types of responses.
He got them BECAUSE of the way he expressed his anger.

I'm not saying those responses were any better than his tirade, but they wouldn't have happened if there was no tirade to begin with.

Any point made in such a manner gets lost in/overshadowed by such delivery.

TybaltKaine

I don't qualify a single sentence borne from legitimate frustration as a tirade. This wasn't an epic page long rant about the unjustness of the world. It was a single sentence with a choice of words that can be inferred as insulting to the work being done (though I don't think it ever was, and it was more about the situation in general being frustrating due to circumstances outside of the OP's control).

How we respond matters and choosing to engage negatively only harms people more. I'm guilty of it myself, and trying to be better, and that's all I'm calling for here, people to be better to each other.

Policing someone's expression isn't productive, and I'm not trying to do that here, I just want to express that we can be better as a community when we all have felt frustration with the game we love.

Grizzbeorn

TybaltKaine wrote: »

I don't qualify a single sentence borne from legitimate frustration as a tirade.

He called the daily reward system "garbage" not only once, but "absolute garbage" the second time, and threatened to stop spending money if they didn't "fix this garbage." (a third use of the word.)

I feel secure in my categorization.

TybaltKaine

We will agree to disagree, as I don't think continued discussion is helpful to the overall topic at hand.

XSTRONG

I dont think daily reward system is garbage but neither is it super important for me to get every reward in a month.

If I miss 1 or 2 days it dosent matter but if the rewards was super awesome i would probably cry a little.

Go to imp city grab a flag and kill mobs for a few minutes and you have 3k telwar

Mesite

The daily rewards weren't always there, I'm sure. I know levelling up rewards weren't there when I started playing as I remember saving up for my first horse.

I occasionally used to log onto an old account as well as my current account to get really good daily rewards on both accounts. (If it's gold you can send it to your main account) but I never worried if I missed a day.

I'm not even sure what tel var stones are for and I've been playing for years. I keep mine in the bank in case I ever look up to see what I can use them for.

What about endeavours? Should they have a few days without them at the end of the month too? Thought not.

Danikat

I miss at least a few days almost every month because of other things going on. Sometimes I'm away for work, or to see family, sometimes I'm on holiday, sometimes my computer breaks down and I can't run the game, sometimes I'm just busy with other things. Once I had covid and wasn't up to thinking about or doing anything non-essential.

I think if it's not a rare one-off event you get used to it. The only time it bothered me was early on when the big reward was on the very last day and it was 100,000 gold. Even then it only bothered me because I was online that day (I'd missed the first of the month) and people kept asking what I was going to do with it and talking about how great it was that 'everyone' got it and I kept having to explain that no, I won't be buying anything with it because I didn't qualify for it.

Fortunately not long after that they changed it so the big rewards are earlier in the month. I think they realised that a game is never going to be the most important thing in people's lives and no incentive is going to ensure everyone logs in every day because it can't happen.

I'm sure all the currencies and other bits I've missed add up to quite a bit, but there's never anything available in the last week which isn't obtainable another way so if it's something I really want I'll use the time when I can log in to get it.

vsrs_au

They could make a lot of players more content with the rewards system simply by placing no conditions on the rewards: if you login on any given day, you can claim the reward for that day. That's it, no conditions, no penalty for NOT logging in on other days. This has been suggested many times on this forum.

Amottica

sPark101 wrote: »

The 3,000 Telvani reward is at the end of the month so the OP is correct.

While it is not the big reward for the month it is a nice reward and hence the incentive to log in every day which is one of the points of the login rewards.

Danikat

vsrs_au wrote: »

They could make a lot of players more content with the rewards system simply by placing no conditions on the rewards: if you login on any given day, you can claim the reward for that day. That's it, no conditions, no penalty for NOT logging in on other days. This has been suggested many times on this forum.

What if you can't log in on the day the reward you want is available?

At least with the current system it's just a matter of not missing too many days within one month, which as mentioned is usually only a problem if you want the last few days, and those are normally currencies and therefore obtainable by other methods. If the unique reward/s can only be collected on one specific day I think a lot more people would miss them.

As I mentioned earlier I usually miss at least a few days each month due to real-life commitments, but with the current system I can still work my way through most of the rewards and just miss the last few days. Even if I wanted to I can't rearrange my work and family commitments to fit a game's schedule, so if I had to be online on the day ZOS picked for a specific item or miss it I'd miss a lot more of the interesting ones than I do currently.

CGPsaint

crchbizb14_ESO wrote: »

There needs to be 3 or 4 days at the end of it with nothing to make it a little fair for everyone to get it when emergencies and maintenance happens. So now I am missing 3k telvar stones I can't get because you did maintenance one day this week and I had an emergency last night. This is absolute garbage, no more plus subscription till you either fix this garbage or allow us to buy missed days with gold/crowns.

You would buy missed days with gold or Crowns? Why? You can farm 3K Tel Var in an hour tops. You can do the district quests which will yield Tel Var from doing the quests AND from turning the quests in. There are a lot of things wrong with the game, but this is hardly even noteworthy.

vsrs_au

Danikat wrote: »

If the unique reward/s can only be collected on one specific day I think a lot more people would miss them.

That's exactly how the current system works. The good reward(s) is still only available on 1 particular day, and if you miss collecting it, tough luck. But with the current system, if you miss a reward, you get further penalised for it by having an end-of-month reward also made unavailable. This is unfair.

Dagoth_Rac

vsrs_au wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

If the unique reward/s can only be collected on one specific day I think a lot more people would miss them.

That's exactly how the current system works. The good reward(s) is still only available on 1 particular day, and if you miss collecting it, tough luck. But with the current system, if you miss a reward, you get further penalised for it by having an end-of-month reward also made unavailable. This is unfair.

Huh? That is not how it works. The reward for 3rd day of month is available the 3rd day you log in during the month. Log in on the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd? You got the first 3 rewards shown. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th? You got the first 3 rewards shown. The 5th, 10th, and 15th? You got the first 3 rewards shown.

The "good" reward on the 20th can be available on many days. If you log in on the 1st through 19th, that "good" reward will be waiting on the 20th. Don't get to log in that day? It will still be waiting on the 21st. Don't get to log in that day? It will still be waiting on the 22st. And so on.

spartaxoxo

vsrs_au wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

If the unique reward/s can only be collected on one specific day I think a lot more people would miss them.

That's exactly how the current system works. The good reward(s) is still only available on 1 particular day, and if you miss collecting it, tough luck. But with the current system, if you miss a reward, you get further penalised for it by having an end-of-month reward also made unavailable. This is unfair.

I have never missed the big reward. They start taking away reward at the end of the list first, so that missed days don't cause you to miss out on the big rewards.