phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Organize harvesting runs? Pick a zone with a group and each pick an area to harvest clean!
FrancisCrawford wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Organize harvesting runs? Pick a zone with a group and each pick an area to harvest clean!
Evidence that supply/demand is in play:
At least on PC/NA, it seems as if the expensive furnishing mats are associated with cheap crafting mats, and vice-versa. E.g., alchemy has expensive crafting mats but cheap furnishing mats, while enchanting has the opposite. Blacksmithing materials may be fairly cheap in both areas -- but when one farms blacksmithing nodes one also necessarily farms jewelry nodes, and vice-versa.
So yeah -- more node farming should probably be in the mix.
This has been bought up so many times with so many simple solutions offered- increase the drop rate, drop them from surveys, drop them from hirelings, etc etc.
I've never seen ZOS reply to any of them.
It's really just three mats that are a problem- Mundanes, Heartwood and (recently) Decorative Wax. The others are fine.
FrancisCrawford wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Organize harvesting runs? Pick a zone with a group and each pick an area to harvest clean!
Evidence that supply/demand is in play:
At least on PC/NA, it seems as if the expensive furnishing mats are associated with cheap crafting mats, and vice-versa. E.g., alchemy has expensive crafting mats but cheap furnishing mats, while enchanting has the opposite. Blacksmithing materials may be fairly cheap in both areas -- but when one farms blacksmithing nodes one also necessarily farms jewelry nodes, and vice-versa.
So yeah -- more node farming should probably be in the mix.
The root of the problem is that furnishings cost so many mats to craft. I built a dueling arena that cost 1 Culanda Lacquer per structural furnishing crafted. I used over 300 pieces and at the time the Culanda Lacquer were selling for 3K gold each. Most of the furnishings also required 9 Mundane Runes which is somewhere north of 4.5K per furnishing. Farming Culanda Lacquer is a pain, but is still faster than farming Mundane Runes given the drop rates. Long story short, I stopped crafting furniture and am not longer messing with housing. ZOS definitely dropped the ball in regards to housing and the corresponding furnishings.
This has been bought up so many times with so many simple solutions offered- increase the drop rate, drop them from surveys, drop them from hirelings, etc etc.
I've never seen ZOS reply to any of them.
It's really just three mats that are a problem- Mundanes, Heartwood and (recently) Decorative Wax. The others are fine.
The root of the problem is that furnishings cost so many mats to craft. I built a dueling arena that cost 1 Culanda Lacquer per structural furnishing crafted. I used over 300 pieces and at the time the Culanda Lacquer were selling for 3K gold each. Most of the furnishings also required 9 Mundane Runes which is somewhere north of 4.5K per furnishing. Farming Culanda Lacquer is a pain, but is still faster than farming Mundane Runes given the drop rates. Long story short, I stopped crafting furniture and am not longer messing with housing. ZOS definitely dropped the ball in regards to housing and the corresponding furnishings.This has been bought up so many times with so many simple solutions offered- increase the drop rate, drop them from surveys, drop them from hirelings, etc etc.
I've never seen ZOS reply to any of them.
It's really just three mats that are a problem- Mundanes, Heartwood and (recently) Decorative Wax. The others are fine.
That is because ZOS wants you to arrive at their solution buy furniture packs from the crown store or fully furnished houses, they want it to be a convoluted process to get your own furniture in game so that you shell out for stuff that costs crowns, for them it makes zero business sense to fix the issue.
spartaxoxo wrote: »The root of the problem is that furnishings cost so many mats to craft. I built a dueling arena that cost 1 Culanda Lacquer per structural furnishing crafted. I used over 300 pieces and at the time the Culanda Lacquer were selling for 3K gold each. Most of the furnishings also required 9 Mundane Runes which is somewhere north of 4.5K per furnishing. Farming Culanda Lacquer is a pain, but is still faster than farming Mundane Runes given the drop rates. Long story short, I stopped crafting furniture and am not longer messing with housing. ZOS definitely dropped the ball in regards to housing and the corresponding furnishings.This has been bought up so many times with so many simple solutions offered- increase the drop rate, drop them from surveys, drop them from hirelings, etc etc.
I've never seen ZOS reply to any of them.
It's really just three mats that are a problem- Mundanes, Heartwood and (recently) Decorative Wax. The others are fine.
That is because ZOS wants you to arrive at their solution buy furniture packs from the crown store or fully furnished houses, they want it to be a convoluted process to get your own furniture in game so that you shell out for stuff that costs crowns, for them it makes zero business sense to fix the issue.
What's funny is that I would probably be more willing to use crown furniture if the mats weren't so prohibitively expensive. Although the coin that I'm spending on mats, I might spend on crown sellers. Or I'd be in a better mood and more willing to purchase something from the crown store using my own money. Right now, the only time I buy packs is when I'm actually able to enjoy decorating and it's just missing that perfect item. I've never used it as a replacement for mats and don't know many housing people who do. I wonder how much of that stuff in the furniture store in houses is actually selling, and how much they would be making if people were decorating more. So many people don't bother at housing at all because it's too expensie and I don't blame them.
They are super expensive in EU too. What I find ridiculous is that you can't make money by crafting furniture, even the super rare ones. People always sell them for even less than the cost of creation.
Cheap furnishing mats do exist. I regularly put up mats below TTC recommended price all the time. The issue is that re-sellers tend to buy them first.
They do exist. You just have to be quick or on the look out for them.
Hi sorry if some ppl feel this should be relegated to housing but I need this to be heard in general considering how it impacts the ingame player economy.
I run with a housing guild. We hold a bazaar every Sunday where we sell furniture often to newer players without the time/resources to learn the blueprints. Problem for us is that the cost of furnishing mats keeps ratcheting up and we really need something to be done about it. I can understand paying over 100k for an Alinor Greenhouse, but not for one stack of decorative wax. Nevermind Mundane runes which already cost a small fortune for a stack as is; its ridiculous.
So please, is there anything someone at ZOS can do about this? Idk if im the only one that feels this way but its very frustrating.
The game does offer a lot of features to go deeper into - but honestly you can't have them all.
And you need to invest - time or money. You can't have everything at once, and that's probably good, as it keeps you in the game.
I don't see a problem.
The game does offer a lot of features to go deeper into - but honestly you can't have them all.
And you need to invest - time or money. You can't have everything at once, and that's probably good, as it keeps you in the game.
"Work" for it, pay for it, or leave it. I for sure know that my chance of finding one of those ultra-rare plans is likely zero. Just doing farm runs on the other hand is pretty predictable, and - as nobody wants to do those - will bring in a good amount of money. To purchase the stuff you will likely never find by yourself.