[REQUEST] Make it possible to right click and interact with player/user IDs in any interface

AnduinTryggva

[Original text deleted due to people being triggered while the discussion went long away from the original post]

As of now some player names / user names use special letters not easily accessible on standard keyboards which makes it difficult to whisper to them or - if needs should exist - to report them as for this a precise spelling is required. So I request to be able to be able to copy/interact the user ID or player name by right-clicking in whatever circumstances or interface the name appears (for instance in the interface when playing ToT to give an example).

Lykeion

Why you need to whisper during a match?

AnduinTryggva

Because I am communicative

Ok this is not enough to force ppl to use standard alphabet. However, if such a name prevents potential reporting I think some might abuse this.

vibeborn

Standard localized letters depend on where the player is geographically. If the player is in Russia, then cyrilic letters is the standard there, if they are in China, then it's Chinese letters (do forgive me if Chines is not the right term)

So in my opinion it depends on where you are.

I do agree that it can be frustrating when you're trying to communicate with someone, and there's an alphabet/language barrier, but I don't think people should be denied from using their own country's alphabet.

Unless you of course means letters that are so alien that nobody knows what they mean

Snamyap

You on a console? Because on PC I can just click on the name in chat if I feel I need to report someone.

AnduinTryggva

Snamyap wrote: »

You on a console? Because on PC I can just click on the name in chat if I feel I need to report someone.

That works when this person has already communicated in chat. In some cases you want to report sb who has not yet communicated.

vibeborn wrote: »

Standard localized letters depend on where the player is geographically. If the player is in Russia, then cyrilic letters is the standard there, if they are in China, then it's Chinese letters (do forgive me if Chines is not the right term)

So in my opinion it depends on where you are.

I do agree that it can be frustrating when you're trying to communicate with someone, and there's an alphabet/language barrier, but I don't think people should be denied from using their own country's alphabet.

Unless you of course means letters that are so alien that nobody knows what they mean

This is true and I don't have a straight forward solution to this. I also think ppl should of course use their own alphabet for their character and account names. Maybe we could have a toggle that transkripts these names to something alternative. E. G. you hover over the user name in whatever interface this exists, you hold a specific key pressed and then a transcription code translates this to the closest possible transcription to standard alphabet that then could be used to type the account name. For the code to recognize a transscription this transcripted name could be preceded by a standard special key available on all keyboards.

vibeborn

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

Snamyap wrote: »

You on a console? Because on PC I can just click on the name in chat if I feel I need to report someone.

That works when this person has already communicated in chat. In some cases you want to report sb who has not yet communicated.

vibeborn wrote: »

Standard localized letters depend on where the player is geographically. If the player is in Russia, then cyrilic letters is the standard there, if they are in China, then it's Chinese letters (do forgive me if Chines is not the right term)

So in my opinion it depends on where you are.

I do agree that it can be frustrating when you're trying to communicate with someone, and there's an alphabet/language barrier, but I don't think people should be denied from using their own country's alphabet.

Unless you of course means letters that are so alien that nobody knows what they mean

This is true and I don't have a straight forward solution to this. I also think ppl should of course use their own alphabet for their character and account names. Maybe we could have a toggle that transkripts these names to something alternative. E. G. you hover over the user name in whatever interface this exists, you hold a specific key pressed and then a transcription code translates this to the closest possible transcription to standard alphabet that then could be used to type the account name. For the code to recognize a transscription this transcripted name could be preceded by a standard special key available on all keyboards.

That actually would be a cool idea. I think that accessability mode reads zone chat out loud, so it shouldn't be impossible to program a text transcriper

wolfie1.0.

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

Snamyap wrote: »

You on a console? Because on PC I can just click on the name in chat if I feel I need to report someone.

That works when this person has already communicated in chat. In some cases you want to report sb who has not yet communicated.

vibeborn wrote: »

Standard localized letters depend on where the player is geographically. If the player is in Russia, then cyrilic letters is the standard there, if they are in China, then it's Chinese letters (do forgive me if Chines is not the right term)

So in my opinion it depends on where you are.

I do agree that it can be frustrating when you're trying to communicate with someone, and there's an alphabet/language barrier, but I don't think people should be denied from using their own country's alphabet.

Unless you of course means letters that are so alien that nobody knows what they mean

This is true and I don't have a straight forward solution to this. I also think ppl should of course use their own alphabet for their character and account names. Maybe we could have a toggle that transkripts these names to something alternative. E. G. you hover over the user name in whatever interface this exists, you hold a specific key pressed and then a transcription code translates this to the closest possible transcription to standard alphabet that then could be used to type the account name. For the code to recognize a transscription this transcripted name could be preceded by a standard special key available on all keyboards.

Or better yet, it gives you an option to report/whisper or even send a mail and other interactive options and it autopopulates the name into the forms in the ui.

Ratzkifal

Alright, you convinced me. Actually, let's ban other languages outright. How dare foreigners use their foreign language when making names. Actually how dare ZOS translate the game into foreign languages at all!

How did you get from "I want to chat to these people" to "Ban them from using this name"? How is that your best solution to this problem? Tell me you are from NA without telling me you are from NA.

Danikat

Asking for a simpler way to message other players would make far more sense than demanding everyone be restricted to letters you happen to have on your keyboard. Those will be different to other people's keyboards depending on where in the world you live. Even UK and US keyboards are different. There is no 'standard' set of letters for ZOS to permit players to use.

perfiction

Simple fix - change settings to display UserID instead of character names, ToT follows this setting.

Ratzkifal

perfiction wrote: »

Simple fix - change settings to display UserID instead of character names, ToT follows this setting.

That is not a fix when the funny letters are also in the UserID. ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

Jammy420

Agreed, that is all.

Ratzkifal

Jammy420 wrote: »

Agreed, that is all.

You can't be serious. Fine. Let's ban nonstandard letters in names. Since most languages using the latin alphabet have their own special nonstandard letters, let's go with the alphabet belonging to the language that has the most native speakers as standard. Mandarin chinese. 你知道这个想法有多愚蠢吗？

Edit: Actually I came up with an even better choice that connects all of us Elder Scrolls Online players: the Daedric Alphabet!
Hello I'm

Anumaril

Could you define what you mean by "non-standard letters"? Because if you're talking about those weird special symbols/emoticons you can write with certain keyboard shortcuts, I could agree.

But if you're talking about non-English letters, then I've got to disagree. While it may not be standard in English, an accent is very common in Spanish, French, and just about every other language. It's not right to just tell every non-English player "sorry, you've got to be forced to use English standard letters so that our English-speaking playerbase can interact with you easier".

KiltMaster

Very big "we're in America - speak American" energy

Jammy420

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Jammy420 wrote: »

Agreed, that is all.

You can't be serious. Fine. Let's ban nonstandard letters in names. Since most languages using the latin alphabet have their own special nonstandard letters, let's go with the alphabet belonging to the language that has the most native speakers as standard. Mandarin chinese. 你知道这个想法有多愚蠢吗？

Edit: Actually I came up with an even better choice that connects all of us Elder Scrolls Online players: the Daedric Alphabet!
Hello I'm

Im seeing it purely from a standpoint of reporting cheaters, and yes they exist i have gotten some banned, it is incredibly difficult to report players that have 4 different alphabets in their name. Especially since the online form doesnt support them.

Four_Fingers

Two threads about player name choices, what's next no capital letters?
Don't like my name? Don't look.
And I have zero sympathy for serial stool pigeons.

Ratzkifal

Jammy420 wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Jammy420 wrote: »

Agreed, that is all.

You can't be serious. Fine. Let's ban nonstandard letters in names. Since most languages using the latin alphabet have their own special nonstandard letters, let's go with the alphabet belonging to the language that has the most native speakers as standard. Mandarin chinese. 你知道这个想法有多愚蠢吗？

Edit: Actually I came up with an even better choice that connects all of us Elder Scrolls Online players: the Daedric Alphabet!
Hello I'm

Im seeing it purely from a standpoint of reporting cheaters, and yes they exist i have gotten some banned, it is incredibly difficult to report players that have 4 different alphabets in their name. Especially since the online form doesnt support them.

Yes, but how do you get from "I want to report cheaters" to "ban people from having names using foreign letters"? That is an incredible leap of logic here. Ask for an easier way to report someone then [snip]

[edited for baiting]

ArchMikem

If you're on Console, there's a good chance the other person will show up in the "Recently played with" list in the Xbox home social menu, or whatever it's called.

But no yeah don't ban people from using characters from their native language. Special characters that aren't from the alphabet, maybe.

Dr_Con

imagine asking for this change and they implement it only for the person you are trying to DM be in offline mode.

SilverBride

I agree with the OP.

Either restrict the usage of letters that not all players have access to or come up with more ways to reach the report menu that doesn't require typing the player's UserID or Character Name.

Wuduwasa13

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

There are account names that use non standard localized letters. It is impossible to whisper to them just because my keyboard is not capable to produce these letters. This is specifically annoying in some circumstances (like ToT match) where you don't have the player before you to interact via the weel.

These folks should just disable whisper in general if they dislike to be whispered at.

This is even more so damaging when you cannot report a player for some reportable behavior because of the account name that same person has chosen.

I’m perfectly fine with the system as it is & do not support or wish for any change to it.

Requesting a change to reconfigure the game to your preferences is also extremely entitled.

Soarora

I doubt their username is the way it is to avoid whispers. This could be solved by putting the players in a group so group chat works…

Froil

SilverBride wrote: »

I agree with the OP.

Either restrict the usage of letters that not all players have access to or come up with more ways to reach the report menu that doesn't require typing the player's UserID or Character Name.

Yeah the thing is is that everyone can have access to these non-English/Latin characters. Even if you're using a qwerty keyboard you can use them, not to mention the game is localized in many different languages that use accent marks, according to this official support.

If you want to use different characters, look up alt codes, unicode, use a character map application if your PC has it, etc. etc. There's no reason to "ban" or prohibit it just because you don't know how to type them out.

zaria

Related, we can click on guilds at go to guild chat in PC, but not on user to chat with user. Why can we not simply click on user name to start an personal chat?

SilverBride

zaria wrote: »

Related, we can click on guilds at go to guild chat in PC, but not on user to chat with user. Why can we not simply click on user name to start an personal chat?

If the other player isn't standing right in front of you or hasn't spoken in chat there is no way to click on their name.

Ratzkifal

SilverBride wrote: »

I agree with the OP.

Either restrict the usage of letters that not all players have access to or come up with more ways to reach the report menu that doesn't require typing the player's UserID or Character Name.

No, that is a horrible idea. Yes, come up with more ways to reach the report button, but I would rather have the cheaters go unpunished than ban the use of letters for people who are just trying to have a name in their native language.
We clearly have another option here so why perpetuate this objectively bad decision as if it was a valid choice? It's not.

Maybe all of you just don't realize how many languages this would actually affect. Every European language that isn't English would be affected pretty much. No more Greek, no more Swedish, no more German, no more French, no more Spanish, you get the point (hopefully). Not using these special letters can completely change the meaning of words and that can change the meaning of a name. For a game that has been translated into 5 different languages, two of which not using a latin base, it's kind of insulting to be seriously suggesting this.

Nord_Raseri

No.

zaria

SilverBride wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Related, we can click on guilds at go to guild chat in PC, but not on user to chat with user. Why can we not simply click on user name to start an personal chat?

If the other player isn't standing right in front of you or hasn't spoken in chat there is no way to click on their name.

Here its if someone say something in zone or guild chat and I want to talk to them privately

ArchangelIsraphel

I'm going to go with "how about no".

You actually can make these letters, if you look up how to enable a touch keyboard witch you can type using your mouse. I regularly use it to speak to others who have special characters in their names. The touch keyboard on windows actually has a section with every special character available. If you're on Mac, can't help you.