Arcanist skills look lame

whitecrow

solidstate77ub17_ESO wrote: »

Sorry, but the Arcanist skills look terrible. Why would I want a tentacle dps skill?

Wash away your enemies! Oops, wrong game.

Holycannoli

Can't wait for Cyrodiil to look green.

Trejgon

I am personally liking the visuals of arcanist skills - glad that there is not that much of tentacles, even if the tentacle stab from eariler announcements seems to be going to be a staple of dps build with it's unique debuff.

colossalvoids

Not sure how people could judge it so soon before trying it out, as going from people's feedback that got their hands on pre-pts it feels good, even though some of them were not fans of idea to begin with. 17th is soon enough, I'd reserve my judgement for an actual play test.

Tentacle skill is straight up from Skyrim's Dragonborn dlc btw, not surprisingly.

ellmarie

I just got my nails done in sparkle green, I like all the flash. But will have to wait until I play it to see if it distracts.

isadoraisacat

Bucky_13 wrote: »

solidstate77ub17_ESO wrote: »

Sorry, but the Arcanist skills look terrible. Why would I want a tentacle dps skill?

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I mean in Skyrim on the Dragonborn dlc you literally get a staff that shoots moras tentacles out and it’s an awesome effect. You also have the mora sword that sort of extends like a tentacle and does some decent damage this is just a call back to that after all it’s a mora theme.

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Destai

Oh man, I think they look cool. Arcanist wouldn't be my first choice had it come out at launch, but I'm happy to see it now. While I gravitate towards nature and holy themes, this does look really cool, especially after having the same toons for a few years.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Mr_Jord_Joe wrote: »

It's perfect to me, the colors, the animations!

Look THIS!!!!

The longer I look at it the worse it gets. The effects are too intrusive, flashy and overdone, yet also look shoddy. Like a cheap cartoon.
This flashy glowiness is getting worse and worse in ESO and it just doesn't fit the setting that well to me. Think I will need to turn off seeing other people's aoe effects and hope we can get a setting to not see others effects at all.

It's also too niché of a class. Contrary to what the devs says, this is not easily roleplayed as anything else besides something that is connected to Mora.

logan68

It should never have been a class should have been skill lines

Mr_Jord_Joe

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

The green light looks a bit too bright to my taste. Especially the beam's light was so bright it looked kinda bad.

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Mr_Jord_Joe wrote: »

It's perfect to me, the colors, the animations!

Look THIS!!!!

The longer I look at it the worse it gets. The effects are too intrusive, flashy and overdone, yet also look shoddy. Like a cheap cartoon.
This flashy glowiness is getting worse and worse in ESO and it just doesn't fit the setting that well to me. Think I will need to turn off seeing other people's aoe effects and hope we can get a setting to not see others effects at all.

It's also too niché of a class. Contrary to what the devs says, this is not easily roleplayed as anything else besides something that is connected to Mora.

Well, it's quite normal for some to not like it, but if the problem is color, brightness, etc, the game offers options to remove or reduce, even your monitor has options to reduce saturation, like everything else in life, or in games mainly, certain things are not going to please everyone naturally, on my monitor the color, brightness is PERFECT, and for me this is enough, good luck for everyone that no like the animations and etc of the class, but if it's any consolation, things can change by launch!

Narvuntien

I like it but you are entitled to your opinion. The passives seem good so you could just play it as stamina without using any class skills and it will still be strong for you.

rpa

I decide when I've tried the class by myself. Looks less ludicrous than some which is good but I do not know how distracting and headache inducing it all is while actually playing.
(At some point I tried to use overload on sorc and for some reason the animation and crackling noise always bugged and stuck permanently active in Eldan Hollow where I was solo farming a lead for one of the mythic rings. That was "distracting and headache inducing".)

CardinalJack

I hope I'll be able to build fully into rune magic and avoid all the Lovecraft tentacle skills. Was attacked by a squid when I was a child, it left me a trauma related to everything tentacle-ly.

FeedbackOnly

logan68 wrote: »

It should never have been a class should have been skill lines

It definitely would have made the healer portion balanced on like now...

N00BxV1

Radiant Apex Class with built-in Laser Show!!!



It looks neat, but definitely out of place compared to the other classes. And it's gonna make the other classes look even more outdated too. Like comparing a base-game brown horse to one of these new flashy Radiant Apex mounts...

Hopefully the option to "hide additional ally effects" works for all of their skills, because that looks like a lot of visual noise. Just imagine a room full of them... I'm already starting to have flashbacks of the laser shows from back in my Rave days. lol

merpins

Animator here~ From an animation perspective, what I've seen of this class so far is well animated and well executed. The theme is great as well, and though I'm not a big fan of the ultimate that uses a watcher and would prefer something that isn't tied to a creature like that, since those are not specifically Hermeus Mora's creatures, I still enjoy the rest of the class along with its theming. Course is reuses a lot of animation, or at least the timing and visuals of it, from TES 5, that does suck a bit, but it's something based on the dragonborn DLC of TES 5, so it makes sense.

Now if only they'd put as much time and love into the Jabs skill animation rework.

Soarora

Will have to see what they look like in-game since the actual game tends to be a lot less intensely colored without reshade. I think the new animations look very good and unique though to the point I worry that other classes are going to look very out of date (especially since a lot of classes share base animations while a lot of these animations, if not all of them, seem to be new and improved).

Mr_Jord_Joe

Soarora wrote: »

Will have to see what they look like in-game since the actual game tends to be a lot less intensely colored without reshade. I think the new animations look very good and unique though to the point I worry that other classes are going to look very out of date (especially since a lot of classes share base animations while a lot of these animations, if not all of them, seem to be new and improved).

Yes, I think the time is coming for a rework on the base classes, to match the new ones.

rpa

I'd rather see bug fixes and performance improvements than new cooool animations on old classes. Too bad animation and art people are not qualified to comb spaghetti code.

adriant1978

HappyTheCamper wrote: »

I will admit I don’t agree with Zenke on the “you don’t have to be a Daedric cultist with this.” It’s pretty much your only option RP wise, either that or a “former cultist” like Leramil lol. Unlike the other ones you can kinda twist into your own interpretation, this is definitely just a Herma Mora worshiper.

Agreed. Getting similar vibes to when they made the Warden skills so Morrowind-themed that it felt weird trying to use them on a non-Dunmer character.

ZOS_Icy

Greetings,

This thread has been moved to the Combat & Character Mechanics section, as it is better suited there.

Thank you for your understanding.

LukosCreyden

@adriant1978 indeed. That is my main gripe with both Warden and Arcanist. At least Arc has a cohesive theme though. Warden does not. It is a Morrowind animal mage, but with a bear... and plants... and then, uh, frost magic? Why frost magic? Please ZOS, point to the map and tell me what part of Morrowind inspires this?

Thematically, Warden is a real mess. Its somehow too specific whilst also not having a cohesive identity. Gameplay-wise, it feels great to play though.

Arcanist has a VERY clear and concise theme. Arcanist is TOO specific. Regardless of what the Loremaster says, it very much is a Daedric Cultist class and there is no escaping that. I mean, you could RP your way around that (your character steals the knowledge of Arcanist from Apocrypha, for example), but it is what it is.

As someone who genuinely just wants to play as a "generic" or "all-rounder" mage, I am having a heck of a time trying to settle on a class. It seems like you really have to fit yourself into a specific and, at times, bizarre theme.

Faulgor

LukosCreyden wrote: »

@adriant1978 indeed. That is my main gripe with both Warden and Arcanist. At least Arc has a cohesive theme though. Warden does not. It is a Morrowind animal mage, but with a bear... and plants... and then, uh, frost magic? Why frost magic? Please ZOS, point to the map and tell me what part of Morrowind inspires this?

Only thing I can come up with is 4th era Solstheim.

NeKryXe

Are all skill animations of Arcanist as hideous as the ones shown on Necrom Chapter Preview or will it have some more discreet ones?

Everything I saw of Arcanist is absolutely disgusting... it's all green with abusive lights... it's all so horrendous and intrusive... feels like it was designed by someone really drunk. That's so sad. It's by far the most pathetic looking class.

Zezin

The skills look dope, can't wait to use them, only wish I have is that there had been more tentacle skills.

NeKryXe

Vulkunne wrote: »

I like how they went and shaded them green. I mean green is a very neutral color and if you must have a bunch of effects going off all the time its better to keep that easy on the eyes.

Neutral? It all looks far from neutral. Super intrusive in fact.

NeKryXe

Mr_Jord_Joe wrote: »

It's perfect to me, the colors, the animations!

Look THIS!!!!

OK! This is going to trash the game for everybody.

I think I'll try to not group with anyone using that [Snip].

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Mr_Jord_Joe

NeKryXe wrote: »

Mr_Jord_Joe wrote: »

It's perfect to me, the colors, the animations!

Look THIS!!!!

OK! This is going to trash the game for everybody.

I think I'll try to not group with anyone using that [Snip].

Everybody? why? u can explain better?

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NeKryXe

Mr_Jord_Joe wrote: »

NeKryXe wrote: »

Mr_Jord_Joe wrote: »

It's perfect to me, the colors, the animations!

Look THIS!!!!

OK! This is going to trash the game for everybody.

I think I'll try to not group with anyone using that [Snip].

Everybody? why? u can explain better?

Unless they give us an option to disable those horrendous light effects I can already imagine that it'll be flooding everybody's screens, not only mine. Imagine 2 or 3 players using those [Snip] skill effects.

I'm really sad to see the way it's going. This game was so beautiful 9 years ago, and at some point it got infested with loads of mounts with excessive light effects, and now this... it's way worse. Just imagine having one of this in your group. I really hope I'm wrong. But it really looks absolutely intrusive and horrendous. It seem created by someone who never played Elver Scrolls before. Weird. Looks like something from a bad arcade game.

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AboKor

Totally agree, that this green green green animation looks totally cheap and do not match with ancient magic. This more Genshin like than Eso. And for me it is very sad.
Into what does the noble ECO turns, when you see three party members running around in the dungeon with aggressive green circles, triangles, beams ..? Just want to turn off the game and go to Skyrim....
https://media.tenor.com/MfvzB6AMQfcAAAAd/dance-green.gif