Feedback on the Q2 event morph: Meadowbreeze Memories skin

flizomica

When I read the name of the skin in the patch notes, I was super excited to check it out. Unfortunately, I found myself incredibly disappointed, as it looks almost like a straight recolor of body and face markings I had already unlocked from crown crates, the "Viridian Valor" body/face markings.





Unfortunately, I can't show it on the same character as live (my EU character doesn't have them unlocked), but I think it's obvious that the skin is nearly a 1:1 recolor of the body markings, especially when you start looking at the placement of the leaves. Honestly, I think the body markings look better, as the blindingly white leaves are ugly. I was hoping for something more along the lines of the "Grace of the Green" skin:



Cosmetics purchased from the crown store continuously being cooler and more flashy than rewards earned in-game is a massive pain point for the community currently, and this is just another instance of that problem. It feels doubly worse since I feel like I've already unlocked the better version of this skin by swiping my credit card.

colossalvoids

Eyes glow colour is pretty nice looking but the markings are... Underwhelming? Thanks for making the post, now I know where to save up on tickets and time.

flizomica

colossalvoids wrote: »

Eyes glow colour is pretty nice looking but the markings are... Underwhelming? Thanks for making the post, now I know where to save up on tickets and time.

Apologies, those are eye markings I'm wearing from crown crates. The NPCs show no eye alterations.

flizomica

I would also like to add that even though the Maomer Fish skin already existed, the Scales of Akatosh skin didn't simply recolor the existing texture - they're superficially similar, but it has an entirely different scale texture, scale color, and some different scale placements on the body. Why should the quarterly event reward skin this year have less effort put into it than last year?





The only solution that would make me happy is replacing this version of the Meadowbreeze Memories skin with a similarly styled skin that hasn't yet been released. I'm not sure redoing it entirely is feasible at this stage of the PTS cycle.

Araneae6537

Most of these skins look like weird diseases (ie, the “Maormer” skin and Scales of Akatosh) or amateurish body paint (this Meadowbreeze Memories).

DinoZavr

Dear Zenimax,
maybe it is not too late to replace white with dark green and elongate the lines?
please, no offense, this iteration looks rather fussy.
ZOS Art Team certainly can do better and stylish skin.
Please, make it stylish.

Soarora

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Most of these skins look like weird diseases (ie, the “Maormer” skin and Scales of Akatosh) or amateurish body paint (this Meadowbreeze Memories).

I love Maormer fish scales but scales of akatosh face markings have always bothered me greatly. Getting a straight-up recolor as an event reward is unacceptable. At least change the leaves to flowers or something.

Araneae6537

Soarora wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Most of these skins look like weird diseases (ie, the “Maormer” skin and Scales of Akatosh) or amateurish body paint (this Meadowbreeze Memories).

I love Maormer fish scales but scales of akatosh face markings have always bothered me greatly. Getting a straight-up recolor as an event reward is unacceptable. At least change the leaves to flowers or something.

But on both of those scale skins, they are in patches, and not following an anatomically logical pattern like Argonian scales. I have no idea why a Maormer skin would even have scales — they are Mer and even mammals who have fully returned to the sea (whales, dolphins) don’t have scales. And then in patches, it can only be a disease. I would have liked to have a nice Maormer skin and the Scales of Akatosh would have been cool for Argonians if it was either gold all over or made some kind of visual sense — as is the scales look like some kind of leggings and sleeves!

For scale skins, I think the Dead-Water Scale looks good and for event skins, the Deadlands Scorcher. I’ve seen people create some cool Daedric characters with the latter!

As for this one, it should probably be categorized as a body marking rather than skin, and like the Viridian Valor shown above, looks rather kitsch. Something more stylized and less garish would be better or, if truly making a skin, should be something else entirely, maybe in the style of the pet, giving the character a shimmering green aura about them or something. Not subtle, but the skins never are, and at least it would be different and keeping with the theme.

Soarora

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Most of these skins look like weird diseases (ie, the “Maormer” skin and Scales of Akatosh) or amateurish body paint (this Meadowbreeze Memories).

I love Maormer fish scales but scales of akatosh face markings have always bothered me greatly. Getting a straight-up recolor as an event reward is unacceptable. At least change the leaves to flowers or something.

But on both of those scale skins, they are in patches, and not following an anatomically logical pattern like Argonian scales. I have no idea why a Maormer skin would even have scales — they are Mer and even mammals who have fully returned to the sea (whales, dolphins) don’t have scales. And then in patches, it can only be a disease. I would have liked to have a nice Maormer skin and the Scales of Akatosh would have been cool for Argonians if it was either gold all over or made some kind of visual sense — as is the scales look like some kind of leggings and sleeves!

For scale skins, I think the Dead-Water Scale looks good and for event skins, the Deadlands Scorcher. I’ve seen people create some cool Daedric characters with the latter!

As for this one, it should probably be categorized as a body marking rather than skin, and like the Viridian Valor shown above, looks rather kitsch. Something more stylized and less garish would be better or, if truly making a skin, should be something else entirely, maybe in the style of the pet, giving the character a shimmering green aura about them or something. Not subtle, but the skins never are, and at least it would be different and keeping with the theme.

The Maormer fish skin isn’t actually for Maormer, though many people (including me) add scales to Maormer because it’s cool. The skin is used purely on Leviathans in terms of NPCs… the scales are byproducts of their Sea Serpent heritage. The anatomy for the fish scales makes sense to me as well (the scales continue on the back, it’s not patchy). You have the right to your opinion though. The anatomy for the Akatosh scales is in fact weird. Just the face part bothers me the most.

I like body marking skins since you can layer body markings and hide vampirism while still looking normal, which is why a skin without facial markings would be awesome. I think a glowing lotus theme like the pet as you mentioned would’ve been a lovely idea.

Araneae6537

Soarora wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Most of these skins look like weird diseases (ie, the “Maormer” skin and Scales of Akatosh) or amateurish body paint (this Meadowbreeze Memories).

I love Maormer fish scales but scales of akatosh face markings have always bothered me greatly. Getting a straight-up recolor as an event reward is unacceptable. At least change the leaves to flowers or something.

But on both of those scale skins, they are in patches, and not following an anatomically logical pattern like Argonian scales. I have no idea why a Maormer skin would even have scales — they are Mer and even mammals who have fully returned to the sea (whales, dolphins) don’t have scales. And then in patches, it can only be a disease. I would have liked to have a nice Maormer skin and the Scales of Akatosh would have been cool for Argonians if it was either gold all over or made some kind of visual sense — as is the scales look like some kind of leggings and sleeves!

For scale skins, I think the Dead-Water Scale looks good and for event skins, the Deadlands Scorcher. I’ve seen people create some cool Daedric characters with the latter!

As for this one, it should probably be categorized as a body marking rather than skin, and like the Viridian Valor shown above, looks rather kitsch. Something more stylized and less garish would be better or, if truly making a skin, should be something else entirely, maybe in the style of the pet, giving the character a shimmering green aura about them or something. Not subtle, but the skins never are, and at least it would be different and keeping with the theme.

The Maormer fish skin isn’t actually for Maormer, though many people (including me) add scales to Maormer because it’s cool. The skin is used purely on Leviathans in terms of NPCs… the scales are byproducts of their Sea Serpent heritage. The anatomy for the fish scales makes sense to me as well (the scales continue on the back, it’s not patchy). You have the right to your opinion though. The anatomy for the Akatosh scales is in fact weird. Just the face part bothers me the most.

I like body marking skins since you can layer body markings and hide vampirism while still looking normal, which is why a skin without facial markings would be awesome. I think a glowing lotus theme like the pet as you mentioned would’ve been a lovely idea.

Those are good points about the Maormer fish skin; it probably would have made more sense to call it Leviathan fish scales and then players could of course use it as they want. I would have liked a Maormer skin (assuming they won’t be added as a playable race) to make my own character more accurate so that disappointment colors my view of the Maormer fish scales but perhaps I judge it as something it wasn’t actually meant to be.

That’s a good point about a skin to hide vampirism. Alas, this one won’t even help with that unless one wants these leaf drawings on their face and everywhere… Alas, it is probably too late for a redesign. Hopefully there are some people who like it.

Ragnarok0130

ZoS recolored the cold cut horse from a crown crate mount and now this. It definitely feels like ZoS is phoning it in lately so we should all be unsurprised. Looks like I'm rounding out my Indrik collection this quarter.

RadagastThePink

I do appreciate that body marking can be used so well with the skin. I made template character just to see how some would look.

Is there anyone that has an EU character with the Cherry blossom body markings that could try them?

Unrelated edit: Also the impresario seems a little thirsty

Hoghorn

did you set the butt slider to maximum when you made this toon? i always do, gonna watch for npcs checking me out.

RadagastThePink

Butt slider is 100% on every toon! And it’s still just not enough

allochthons

@flizomica Thanks for posting this. I was wondering if I should spend tix on the parts for this, and now I can say definitely not. Two years in a row I'm skipping a quarterly ticket item (That horrible pink armor costume).

Zyva

Same, not going to spend tickets for this one