Rimmen Fountain-Side Loungewear changing body shape!

SpiritKitten

zaria wrote: »

Maythor wrote: »

I'm not sure why I expect anything different!

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I think you posted in the wrong thread?

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Thee_Cheshire_Cat

Had a look at this costume in game. It's pretty nice, if you aren't looking at it side on. If i knew they would actually fix the issue, i'd buy it.

emilyhyoyeon

it also has this going on when sitting

Syldras

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

I previewed this on several characters of different sex and body types, and have noticed it's a bit different from other costumes and motifs that suffer from this. For one, it actually morphs the body a bit, and it's also only affects female character. All male characters are fine no matter body type, and all female characters suffer from it no matter body type.

Can confirm. Weird.

davidtk

Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »

Had a look at this costume in game. It's pretty nice, if you aren't looking at it side on. If i knew they would actually fix the issue, i'd buy it.

Totaly agree with that.

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@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin ... Can we ask you to say that we would like to see this dress fixes to the devs please? We thank you.

Jaraal

davidtk wrote: »

Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »

Had a look at this costume in game. It's pretty nice, if you aren't looking at it side on. If i knew they would actually fix the issue, i'd buy it.

Totaly agree with that.

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@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin ... Can we ask you to say that we would like to see this dress fixes to the devs please? We thank you.

But Zenimax has a robust and well organized QA department, so this has probably already been reviewed and approved as working as intended. I wouldn’t expect to see any changes.

phaneub17_ESO

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

um............................



I've been looking forward to this costume for years but now like... WHAT

That lift from behind tho.

Thee_Cheshire_Cat

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

it also has this going on when sitting

Looks like the poor thing is sitting face on in an air tunnel, fueled by a jet turbine.

Supreme_Atromancer

davidtk wrote: »

Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »

Had a look at this costume in game. It's pretty nice, if you aren't looking at it side on. If i knew they would actually fix the issue, i'd buy it.

Totaly agree with that.

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@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin ... Can we ask you to say that we would like to see this dress fixes to the devs please? We thank you.

Yeah! U35 Costume and Housing Q&A when?

(Being facetious... mostly).

Jaraal

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

davidtk wrote: »

Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »

Had a look at this costume in game. It's pretty nice, if you aren't looking at it side on. If i knew they would actually fix the issue, i'd buy it.

Totaly agree with that.

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@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin ... Can we ask you to say that we would like to see this dress fixes to the devs please? We thank you.

Yeah! U35 Costume and Housing Q&A when?

(Being facetious... mostly).

Maybe there will be something to address player sentiment about the Rimmen Fountain-side Loungewear….. but I wouldn’t get my hopes up too much.

Aisleyne

There were also noticeable lines across the calves when I previewed it on my characters without fur/scales. It's a shame I was also looking forward to this one.

Jaimeh

I was going to say I don't understand how these mistakes keep making their way to CS items sold for real money, but then thought that if players keep buying regardless, then why would zos improve their control game... It's not just clothes, they mess up hairstyles, etc., as well. Anyway, you could try asking for a refund, though of course the best thing would be if they fixed this.

Grizzbeorn

davidtk wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin ... Can we ask you to say that we would like to see this dress fixes to the devs please? We thank you.

I like it.

So don't be so hasty, unless you're asking for them to fix EVERYTHING.

If they go in to make corrections to this, then they need to correct ALL of the costumes that have issues.
the "Noble Dress," which turns your character into a stick figure, is just one other example; Timbercrow's extra set of granny drawers being another.

Araneae6537

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

davidtk wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin ... Can we ask you to say that we would like to see this dress fixes to the devs please? We thank you.

I like it.

So don't be so hasty, unless you're asking for them to fix EVERYTHING.

If they go in to make corrections to this, then they need to correct ALL of the costumes that have issues.
the "Noble Dress," which turns your character into a stick figure, is just one other example; Timbercrow's extra set of granny drawers being another.

Clothing should not significantly change the shape of your character! If the outfit was fixed to conform to female bodies as it does to male (see the helpful post by @NotaDaedraWorshipper ) then it would fit both slender and more chunky characters equally well (so you could still create the look you like).

Grizzbeorn

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

davidtk wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin ... Can we ask you to say that we would like to see this dress fixes to the devs please? We thank you.

I like it.

So don't be so hasty, unless you're asking for them to fix EVERYTHING.

If they go in to make corrections to this, then they need to correct ALL of the costumes that have issues.
the "Noble Dress," which turns your character into a stick figure, is just one other example; Timbercrow's extra set of granny drawers being another.

Clothing should not significantly change the shape of your character! If the outfit was fixed to conform to female bodies as it does to male (see the helpful post by @NotaDaedraWorshipper ) then it would fit both slender and more chunky characters equally well (so you could still create the look you like).

THEN THEY NEED TO FIX ALL OF THE COSTUMES THAT HAVE ISSUES LIKE THIS.
That was my main point.

davidtk

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

davidtk wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin ... Can we ask you to say that we would like to see this dress fixes to the devs please? We thank you.

I like it.

So don't be so hasty, unless you're asking for them to fix EVERYTHING.

If they go in to make corrections to this, then they need to correct ALL of the costumes that have issues.
the "Noble Dress," which turns your character into a stick figure, is just one other example; Timbercrow's extra set of granny drawers being another.

And what is the problem? [snip] If he fixes even one costume, then the community can push to fix the rest.
If I don't count the big bugs that have been there since U34 and a person really thinks about leaving the game, then the next experience from the game, when a person decides to stay in it, are just these details, like mistakes in costumes, little and sometimes badly made funriture , the impossibility of hiding flaps and shoulders and a lot of other small mistakes/bugs/glitches that can be fixed in a few minutes, if the developers would be more interested in what people are reporting about.
Thats my opinion...

[edited for bashing]

Jaraal

Seminolegirl1992 wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

um............................

I've been looking forward to this costume for years but now like... WHAT

They messed it up, just like the diaper for the Timbercrow costume.
Yes it works for if light skinned like a Bosmer, Nord or Breton, and not using an skin. On a Khajiit it looks like you shaved your but.

Obvious here would been the nude underwear probably colored with the loincloth.

No, that Timbercrow costume looks terrible on every character I’ve seen it on, regardless of race or skintone. No costume is as bad as that one; some, like this Loungewear, make your character look extra chunky, but only Tibercrow gives your character a Frankenstein butt or diaper!

Ikr? If they're that worried about a little skin showing, at least just have a black undergarment or thong in place or something. Just not weird diaper. It clashes so terribly.

They've fixed crown store costumes before due to player outrage (like the Singing Bald... errr... Skald costume). But things that get even more bad publicity and angst such as Timbercrow and are only available with in game currency go ignored for years. And it can't be about skin showing, as Almalexia's costume is far more revealing and has remained unaltered for a decade.

kieso

Thx for the heads up. No need to waste my crowns on this.

It's sad how often this happens though.

SpacemanSpiff1

i previewed this last night. apparently no one at zos bothered to equip this in-game.

spartaxoxo

Jaraal wrote: »

Seminolegirl1992 wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

um............................

I've been looking forward to this costume for years but now like... WHAT

They messed it up, just like the diaper for the Timbercrow costume.
Yes it works for if light skinned like a Bosmer, Nord or Breton, and not using an skin. On a Khajiit it looks like you shaved your but.

Obvious here would been the nude underwear probably colored with the loincloth.

No, that Timbercrow costume looks terrible on every character I’ve seen it on, regardless of race or skintone. No costume is as bad as that one; some, like this Loungewear, make your character look extra chunky, but only Tibercrow gives your character a Frankenstein butt or diaper!

Ikr? If they're that worried about a little skin showing, at least just have a black undergarment or thong in place or something. Just not weird diaper. It clashes so terribly.

They've fixed crown store costumes before due to player outrage (like the Singing Bald... errr... Skald costume). But things that get even more bad publicity and angst such as Timbercrow and are only available with in game currency go ignored for years. And it can't be about skin showing, as Almalexia's costume is far more revealing and has remained unaltered for a decade.

The Timbercrow fix is a style change request. It's a matter of taste and the devs have explicitly stated they have a policy against altering any costumes for that reason.

The Skald costume was a bug fix, as the hat didn't look like the advertisement, when it was supposed to. It had the bald hat behavior instead of the hair showing hat behavior, as was advertised. They will alter cosmetics to fix bugs.

K9002

Keep reporting this. The Day of Release Roisterer costume had the same exact problem and it was fixed after a mass wave of reports last year.

Jaraal

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Seminolegirl1992 wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

um............................

I've been looking forward to this costume for years but now like... WHAT

They messed it up, just like the diaper for the Timbercrow costume.
Yes it works for if light skinned like a Bosmer, Nord or Breton, and not using an skin. On a Khajiit it looks like you shaved your but.

Obvious here would been the nude underwear probably colored with the loincloth.

No, that Timbercrow costume looks terrible on every character I’ve seen it on, regardless of race or skintone. No costume is as bad as that one; some, like this Loungewear, make your character look extra chunky, but only Tibercrow gives your character a Frankenstein butt or diaper!

Ikr? If they're that worried about a little skin showing, at least just have a black undergarment or thong in place or something. Just not weird diaper. It clashes so terribly.

They've fixed crown store costumes before due to player outrage (like the Singing Bald... errr... Skald costume). But things that get even more bad publicity and angst such as Timbercrow and are only available with in game currency go ignored for years. And it can't be about skin showing, as Almalexia's costume is far more revealing and has remained unaltered for a decade.

The Timbercrow fix is a style change request. It's a matter of taste and the devs have explicitly stated they have a policy against altering any costumes for that reason.

The Skald costume was a bug fix, as the hat didn't look like the advertisement, when it was supposed to. It had the bald hat behavior instead of the hair showing hat behavior, as was advertised. They will alter cosmetics to fix bugs.

It's a bug in my (and others') opinion. Clothing doesn't fit the way the backside is drawn on Timbercrow, it defies all laws of physics and common sense. Or else it looks like Khajiit got shaved at the vet. Surely it wasn't intentional, just like it's hard to believe the billowing miniskirt look on the Loungewear on females only was intentional. And the Timbercrow can be easily fixed by simply making it dyeable. No physical changes are required.

davidtk

Jaraal wrote: »

And the Timbercrow can be easily fixed by simply making it dyeable. No physical changes are required.

But you must find dye color what will match skin tone if you want to "remove" it for example. Anyway still it look awfull heh.

AvalonRanger

This is very strange bugs.

I made so many of dark fantasy costume when I used to be younger days
as game graphic designer. Basically, don't touch base player's body skin weight,
but just transfer it from player's body to the new costume model.

Just trim skin area of player's body, but not change skin weight like the picture above.

spartaxoxo

Jaraal wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Seminolegirl1992 wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

um............................

I've been looking forward to this costume for years but now like... WHAT

They messed it up, just like the diaper for the Timbercrow costume.
Yes it works for if light skinned like a Bosmer, Nord or Breton, and not using an skin. On a Khajiit it looks like you shaved your but.

Obvious here would been the nude underwear probably colored with the loincloth.

No, that Timbercrow costume looks terrible on every character I’ve seen it on, regardless of race or skintone. No costume is as bad as that one; some, like this Loungewear, make your character look extra chunky, but only Tibercrow gives your character a Frankenstein butt or diaper!

Ikr? If they're that worried about a little skin showing, at least just have a black undergarment or thong in place or something. Just not weird diaper. It clashes so terribly.

They've fixed crown store costumes before due to player outrage (like the Singing Bald... errr... Skald costume). But things that get even more bad publicity and angst such as Timbercrow and are only available with in game currency go ignored for years. And it can't be about skin showing, as Almalexia's costume is far more revealing and has remained unaltered for a decade.

The Timbercrow fix is a style change request. It's a matter of taste and the devs have explicitly stated they have a policy against altering any costumes for that reason.

The Skald costume was a bug fix, as the hat didn't look like the advertisement, when it was supposed to. It had the bald hat behavior instead of the hair showing hat behavior, as was advertised. They will alter cosmetics to fix bugs.

It's a bug in my (and others') opinion. Clothing doesn't fit the way the backside is drawn on Timbercrow, it defies all laws of physics and common sense. Or else it looks like Khajiit got shaved at the vet. Surely it wasn't intentional, just like it's hard to believe the billowing miniskirt look on the Loungewear on females only was intentional. And the Timbercrow can be easily fixed by simply making it dyeable. No physical changes are required.

The Timbercrow would have been fixed by now if that wasn't an intentional stylistic choice. It looks to me like it was added to make the costume more modest. I find it pretty ugly myself, but seems pretty clear to me personally that they designed it that way on purpose. And beauty is in the eye of the beholder, after all.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Seminolegirl1992 wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

um............................

I've been looking forward to this costume for years but now like... WHAT

They messed it up, just like the diaper for the Timbercrow costume.
Yes it works for if light skinned like a Bosmer, Nord or Breton, and not using an skin. On a Khajiit it looks like you shaved your but.

Obvious here would been the nude underwear probably colored with the loincloth.

No, that Timbercrow costume looks terrible on every character I’ve seen it on, regardless of race or skintone. No costume is as bad as that one; some, like this Loungewear, make your character look extra chunky, but only Tibercrow gives your character a Frankenstein butt or diaper!

Ikr? If they're that worried about a little skin showing, at least just have a black undergarment or thong in place or something. Just not weird diaper. It clashes so terribly.

They've fixed crown store costumes before due to player outrage (like the Singing Bald... errr... Skald costume). But things that get even more bad publicity and angst such as Timbercrow and are only available with in game currency go ignored for years. And it can't be about skin showing, as Almalexia's costume is far more revealing and has remained unaltered for a decade.

The Timbercrow fix is a style change request. It's a matter of taste and the devs have explicitly stated they have a policy against altering any costumes for that reason.

The Skald costume was a bug fix, as the hat didn't look like the advertisement, when it was supposed to. It had the bald hat behavior instead of the hair showing hat behavior, as was advertised. They will alter cosmetics to fix bugs.

It's a bug in my (and others') opinion. Clothing doesn't fit the way the backside is drawn on Timbercrow, it defies all laws of physics and common sense. Or else it looks like Khajiit got shaved at the vet. Surely it wasn't intentional, just like it's hard to believe the billowing miniskirt look on the Loungewear on females only was intentional. And the Timbercrow can be easily fixed by simply making it dyeable. No physical changes are required.

The Timbercrow would have been fixed by now if that wasn't an intentional stylistic choice. It looks to me like it was added to make the costume more modest. I find it pretty ugly myself, but seems pretty clear to me personally that they designed it that way on purpose. And beauty is in the eye of the beholder, after all.

I will refuse to believe this is a style choice. Even less so for modesty. We have costumes and styles that show just as much skin or even less without anything like this. No gamedesigner or any designer for that matter, would look at that and think it was done on purpose. It looks like textures has gone wrong there, a bug. But because it's not a crown bought item, ZOS is likely not bothering much with it. Or ignore it for the same strange reason they don't say a word about all the million other items we have pleaded years for.

Thee_Cheshire_Cat

As many have said, tho, these are costumes people spend REAL world money on. There is no reason why they should be making it public until it's been TESTED and shown to work properly on all character models it was/is intended for.

It's a costume... Not rocket science. Continually putting out stuff like this, (again, this is not just one mistake, but another in a long list) is just adding more terrible PR to the game that it just doesn't need/can't afford right now.

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The people who play this game deserve better.

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BenTSG

The skirt looks so off from the sides, like how?? Had I have realized this before, I would've saved myself some crowns

Araneae6537

BenTSG wrote: »

The skirt looks so off from the sides, like how?? Had I have realized this before, I would've saved myself some crowns

Submit a ticket and you should be able to get a refund.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Araneae6537 wrote: »

BenTSG wrote: »

The skirt looks so off from the sides, like how?? Had I have realized this before, I would've saved myself some crowns

Submit a ticket and you should be able to get a refund.

Or hope they will fix it.