Permanently disable Target Markers

acastanza_ESO

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Paralyse wrote: »

Marking other players in Cyro seems like cheating if it allows you to get around mechanics like stealth or using terrain features to seek cover. I have not tried it, though.

Terrain features is not a concern. There should be some additional counterplay to cover.

I agree it's completely overpowered for stealth if it's not removed when a player is in stealth. I think they temporarily disabled it for that reason. But, I haven't tried. Stealth (crouching, skill, or pot) should definitely remove it imo.

Edit: Should also have a limited distance before marker is removed.

In the previous implementation the position of the target marker became frozen at the location you stealthed, but would jump to where you were when you unstealthed. They also worked through complete cover giving away positioning inside walls and doors far more robustly than the tab target outline (and with a greater range). There were other issues like it persisting through death, and jumping to the position of forward camps if you got up at one. The range of the markers was also likely too long. In one of the older threads, Gina mentioned that they were evaluating solutions to these issues and did intend to eventually reenable enemy marking in PVP when they had solutions that still made them useful but not as extremely overpowered as they were.

acastanza_ESO

NeKryXe wrote: »

Mostly I need to completely remove it from my compass forever. And it's not like you think. You still can place that trash over other players when you are not in any group and you can still see that trash from other players everywhere. You don't need to be in a group to see it. It appears everywhere. Not only over my character. It's constantly appearing on my compass target markers from players that I don't even know. It's a plague!

I know I can remove it but I don't do anything else but remove this trash from my screen on every dungeon, trials and everywhere else in tamriel. It's hideous. We need a shortcut to fast remove all target markers from our UI or a way to permanently disable it from everywhere, including the compass which is the most intrusive thing.

I can understand that some players like it and want to see a lot of colourful icons everywhere, for no reason at all, but it should be optional. I can't understand why they are forcing it on players that don't need or want it.

That is flatly untrue, you can only see the markers placed by people that you are in a group with. If you're not grouped with other people and are seeing target markers, that is because you are (accidentally) placing them.

That said, I do agree that there should be an option for you to hide markers in your UI client-side.

katanagirl1

I like the markers because we are using them in trials, it is helpful when we have to split into groups and stack. I am not able to see other player’s names in the chaos but a symbol over the head is easy to follow.

Last patch made them smaller and the purple Oblivion one is now hard to see.

DinoZavr

Agreed.

Literally each every day there is at least one post at ESO Reddit with a screenshot entitled "[snip] is THIS? and how do i get rid of that?"
The reason is that new players accidentally turn targeting on and have no clue how to clean up the markers.

@ZOS, please, make target markers turned off by default and game setting to disable and clean up all the markers.
Thanks in advance.

[edited for profanity bypass]

UnabashedlyHonest

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

NeKryXe wrote: »

Mostly I need to completely remove it from my compass forever. And it's not like you think. You still can place that trash over other players when you are not in any group and you can still see that trash from other players everywhere. You don't need to be in a group to see it. It appears everywhere. Not only over my character. It's constantly appearing on my compass target markers from players that I don't even know. It's a plague!

I know I can remove it but I don't do anything else but remove this trash from my screen on every dungeon, trials and everywhere else in tamriel. It's hideous. We need a shortcut to fast remove all target markers from our UI or a way to permanently disable it from everywhere, including the compass which is the most intrusive thing.

I can understand that some players like it and want to see a lot of colourful icons everywhere, for no reason at all, but it should be optional. I can't understand why they are forcing it on players that don't need or want it.

That is flatly untrue, you can only see the markers placed by people that you are in a group with. If you're not grouped with other people and are seeing target markers, that is because you are (accidentally) placing them.

That said, I do agree that there should be an option for you to hide markers in your UI client-side.

The system must be bugged then because I used to get markers put on my while PvP'ing solo. I figured out how to turn that feature off for me, but I'm sure others are still putting the markers on me and they stick until I log off even though I can't see them now.

It's a bugged and unneeded system. It also takes up system resources when the servers are already over taxed.

Soarora

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

NeKryXe wrote: »

Mostly I need to completely remove it from my compass forever. And it's not like you think. You still can place that trash over other players when you are not in any group and you can still see that trash from other players everywhere. You don't need to be in a group to see it. It appears everywhere. Not only over my character. It's constantly appearing on my compass target markers from players that I don't even know. It's a plague!

I know I can remove it but I don't do anything else but remove this trash from my screen on every dungeon, trials and everywhere else in tamriel. It's hideous. We need a shortcut to fast remove all target markers from our UI or a way to permanently disable it from everywhere, including the compass which is the most intrusive thing.

I can understand that some players like it and want to see a lot of colourful icons everywhere, for no reason at all, but it should be optional. I can't understand why they are forcing it on players that don't need or want it.

That is flatly untrue, you can only see the markers placed by people that you are in a group with. If you're not grouped with other people and are seeing target markers, that is because you are (accidentally) placing them.

That said, I do agree that there should be an option for you to hide markers in your UI client-side.

I believe you’re SUPPOSED to only see markers placed by you or the group but it’s not true. In Grahtwood I’ve found a scuttler with an icon and also one of the Undaunted questgivers… while not in a group and I 100% did not put the markers there.

I will note though that people may claim it’s useless but it actually is a nice feature, hopefully that bug can be fixed. I’ve already found use for it in dungeons, like marking the correct statue in RoM HM instead of running and jumping at it or tossing caltrops at it.

magnusthorek

Give us something like GW2's. They have a MUCH more visible marking system which are controlled only by the group leader (or yourself, if alone... I think, don't remember)

NeKryXe

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

NeKryXe wrote: »

Mostly I need to completely remove it from my compass forever. And it's not like you think. You still can place that trash over other players when you are not in any group and you can still see that trash from other players everywhere. You don't need to be in a group to see it. It appears everywhere. Not only over my character. It's constantly appearing on my compass target markers from players that I don't even know. It's a plague!

I know I can remove it but I don't do anything else but remove this trash from my screen on every dungeon, trials and everywhere else in tamriel. It's hideous. We need a shortcut to fast remove all target markers from our UI or a way to permanently disable it from everywhere, including the compass which is the most intrusive thing.

I can understand that some players like it and want to see a lot of colourful icons everywhere, for no reason at all, but it should be optional. I can't understand why they are forcing it on players that don't need or want it.

That is flatly untrue, you can only see the markers placed by people that you are in a group with. If you're not grouped with other people and are seeing target markers, that is because you are (accidentally) placing them.

That said, I do agree that there should be an option for you to hide markers in your UI client-side.

That's not true. It appears everywhere. Very frequently when I'm playing solo. And it's absolutely impossible for me to mark it. First because I set the key very far because I hate it and don't plan to use it, and also because most of the time that trash appears first on my compass, very far away, so it couldn't be placed by myself. It doesn't appear only in groups, not at all. I've seen that trash very frequently on cities.

Anyway, I don't want it on my UI both when I'm playing solo or in groups.

ProudMary

Something needs to be done to keep these icons from polluting our navigation bars. Even with the settings turning these markers off they still show up on the navigation bar, covering up the important icons, like crown and the direction markers.

This system desperately needs a function that turns these markers completely off so they don't even show up on the navigation bar.

Just like with the extra utility wheels, ZOS had a decent idea, but they implemented it so poorly now we need a way to shut the whole system off until they can improve it or scratch it all together.

Dr_Con

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

NeKryXe wrote: »

Mostly I need to completely remove it from my compass forever. And it's not like you think. You still can place that trash over other players when you are not in any group and you can still see that trash from other players everywhere. You don't need to be in a group to see it. It appears everywhere. Not only over my character. It's constantly appearing on my compass target markers from players that I don't even know. It's a plague!

I know I can remove it but I don't do anything else but remove this trash from my screen on every dungeon, trials and everywhere else in tamriel. It's hideous. We need a shortcut to fast remove all target markers from our UI or a way to permanently disable it from everywhere, including the compass which is the most intrusive thing.

I can understand that some players like it and want to see a lot of colourful icons everywhere, for no reason at all, but it should be optional. I can't understand why they are forcing it on players that don't need or want it.

That is flatly untrue, you can only see the markers placed by people that you are in a group with. If you're not grouped with other people and are seeing target markers, that is because you are (accidentally) placing them.

That said, I do agree that there should be an option for you to hide markers in your UI client-side.

They are bugged right now and sometimes will appear over your head randomly even when solo, at least I've noticed this happen while PVPing.

I don't see why the request isn't to make it less prominent or even transparent on the navigation compass, why they want to see it removed rather than see thru.