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(Class Guide) In Depth Nightblade Class Guide

  • Soulstormkj
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    Tuchaka wrote: »
    not to be a noodge but did you change your mind about dual wield as the better choice or is it just a ...it's more to use 2H so is personal preference really ?

    For the build as described. Duel wield is definitely the better choice. My live build is a bit different.
  • thoraya
    thoraya
    thoraya wrote: »
    Thanks for the answer :) you advice playing dual wield or 2h?
    I am playing 2h, its just way too much fun dashing in.
    Tuchaka wrote: »
    not to be a noodge but did you change your mind about dual wield as the better choice or is it just a ...it's more to use 2H so is personal preference really ?

    I'm lvl 22 now, and playing Dual Wield, all 5 passives are profit, 2h only 2ish
    + the attackspeed buff from rapid strike and bleed for heal from first skill :)
    combined with strife and veiled strike its a good setup for solodps and killing packs of 3 easy

    Edited by thoraya on April 6, 2014 4:43PM
    tea
  • Soulstormkj
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    thoraya wrote: »
    thoraya wrote: »
    Thanks for the answer :) you advice playing dual wield or 2h?
    I am playing 2h, its just way too much fun dashing in.
    Tuchaka wrote: »
    not to be a noodge but did you change your mind about dual wield as the better choice or is it just a ...it's more to use 2H so is personal preference really ?

    I'm lvl 22 now, and playing Dual Wield, all 5 passives are profit, 2h only 2ish
    + the attackspeed buff from rapid strike and bleed for heal from first skill :)
    combined with strife and veiled strike its a good setup for solodps and killing packs of 3 easy

    I personally have no problems crushing mobs with my 2her. I open from stealth and literally one shot with auto-attacks. That being said I do not really have much aoe asides from my ultimate. Since im a vampire bat swarm op ;o
  • morvegil
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    I think is preference. Im using BOW now to pull mobs and widdle them down, then go big with 2h
    Lo'ke
    Nord Vampire
    Nightblade
    Shield+BOW

    Daggerfall Covenant
    Bandit King
    Bridge Bandits Guild
  • Soulstormkj
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    morvegil wrote: »
    I think is preference. Im using BOW now to pull mobs and widdle them down, then go big with 2h

    Yeah I find myself doing the same thing. Also im a vampire, so draining people mid burst combo is op.

  • thoraya
    thoraya
    morvegil wrote: »
    I think is preference. Im using BOW now to pull mobs and widdle them down, then go big with 2h

    Yeah I find myself doing the same thing. Also im a vampire, so draining people mid burst combo is op.

    you can tell me what the big negative points are as a vampire?

    tea
  • Feimerdre
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    The big negative point about vamire/werewolf is that later Fighter Guild skills will toast you. At least in PvP :smiley:
  • thoraya
    thoraya
    Feimerdre wrote: »
    The big negative point about vamire/werewolf is that later Fighter Guild skills will toast you. At least in PvP :smiley:

    But sunlight wont hurt me right? I've read about some stages of debuff if you dont feed on some guys?
    tea
  • Feimerdre
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    Lets wait till they implement the Justice/Jail system. I am pretty sure that vamp/were will encounter some disadvantages in social life then just as the TES series had it. At least I very much hope for it...
  • Soulstormkj
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    thoraya wrote: »
    Feimerdre wrote: »
    The big negative point about vamire/werewolf is that later Fighter Guild skills will toast you. At least in PvP :smiley:

    But sunlight wont hurt me right? I've read about some stages of debuff if you dont feed on some guys?

    The sunlight doesnt hurt you :p fire does though, and depending on the spec you fight better at night.
  • Thralgaf
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    Do you purposely not use any dual wield melee? I find that surprising that on your melee hotbar there are no dual wield skills. Are you not constantly out of majicka?
  • yotanut
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    Thralgaf wrote: »
    Do you purposely not use any dual wield melee? I find that surprising that on your melee hotbar there are no dual wield skills. Are you not constantly out of majicka?

    I use rapid strike, but have not unlocked "marked target" yet. I am not sure how not having a dual-wield skill in your action bar is effective and efficient. I run out of magicka too quickly now, especially on the long fights.
  • Soulstormkj
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    yotanut wrote: »
    Thralgaf wrote: »
    Do you purposely not use any dual wield melee? I find that surprising that on your melee hotbar there are no dual wield skills. Are you not constantly out of majicka?

    I use rapid strike, but have not unlocked "marked target" yet. I am not sure how not having a dual-wield skill in your action bar is effective and efficient. I run out of magicka too quickly now, especially on the long fights.

    Nowadays I am using a 2her and bow. Some of my more recent videos showcase this. I will probably do a build video soon since I am level 50 now.
  • Soulstormkj
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    yotanut wrote: »
    Thralgaf wrote: »
    Do you purposely not use any dual wield melee? I find that surprising that on your melee hotbar there are no dual wield skills. Are you not constantly out of majicka?

    I use rapid strike, but have not unlocked "marked target" yet. I am not sure how not having a dual-wield skill in your action bar is effective and efficient. I run out of magicka too quickly now, especially on the long fights.

    I evolved mark target into reapers mark. Its so good. 60% health return on kill.
  • Teloran
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    I disagree strongly with taking Concealed Weapon instead of Surprises Attack. The armour reduction is a huge since all of your close ranged class skills are mitigated by armour. You're taking a small, situational in combat movement speed boost instead of a considerable party wide DPS boost.
  • Soulstormkj
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    Teloran wrote: »
    I disagree strongly with taking Concealed Weapon instead of Surprises Attack. The armour reduction is a huge since all of your close ranged class skills are mitigated by armour. You're taking a small, situational in combat movement speed boost instead of a considerable party wide DPS boost.

    While I think that generally your right. I have to say two things about your assumption.

    A. When a party ganks one person in PVP They are pretty much gonna die instantly from what I have seen so far. ( This is from pre vet gameplay.)

    B. You assume this build is for group play when it is actually for mostly 1v1 or PvE Single assassination style gameplay.

    That being said, my build has changed considerably on launch and I am in fact using surprise attack instead of concealed weapon. But I can see how the movement speak can be useful especially against those who kite.
    Edited by Soulstormkj on April 10, 2014 6:40AM
  • Soulstormkj
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    Oops Repost.
    Edited by Soulstormkj on April 10, 2014 6:39AM
  • Soulstormkj
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    Thralgaf wrote: »
    Do you purposely not use any dual wield melee? I find that surprising that on your melee hotbar there are no dual wield skills. Are you not constantly out of majicka?

    Actually with my 2her that I am currently using I only use two 2her skills.

  • Soulstormkj
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    Has anyone else encounted a bug with vamprie that removes all your passives on death.
  • Soulstormkj
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    Feimerdre wrote: »
    Lets wait till they implement the Justice/Jail system. I am pretty sure that vamp/were will encounter some disadvantages in social life then just as the TES series had it. At least I very much hope for it...

    Whats the justice/jail system?
  • Brittany_Joy
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    I have a question; Does siphoning strikes benefit from the transfer passive, were each attack gives me 2 ultimate while siphoning strikes is active? Sorry to ask this here but I didnt want to make a new post just for one question.
  • Soulstormkj
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    I have a question; Does siphoning strikes benefit from the transfer passive, were each attack gives me 2 ultimate while siphoning strikes is active? Sorry to ask this here but I didnt want to make a new post just for one question.

    I actually have not used siphoning strikes yet. Perhaps someone else could answer this for you. Sorry ;p
  • Soulstormkj
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    I have a question; Does siphoning strikes benefit from the transfer passive, were each attack gives me 2 ultimate while siphoning strikes is active? Sorry to ask this here but I didnt want to make a new post just for one question.

    After testing this out the answer is no. I think its because you have to "hit them" with an ability as in do damage.
  • Jeddahwe
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    Destruction Staff Caster NB (aka Warlock)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFnKo1eMMHE
  • thoraya
    thoraya
    Jeddahwe wrote: »
    Destruction Staff Caster NB (aka Warlock)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFnKo1eMMHE

    Now this, I want, shut up and take my gold for respecc!

    You think this is more damage than DW Stamina based?
    tea
  • Soulstormkj
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    Jeddahwe wrote: »
    Destruction Staff Caster NB (aka Warlock)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFnKo1eMMHE

    Its funny because literally 30 minutes before you posted that I added it to http://www.theelderarmory.com lol
  • Demonsthere
    Demonsthere
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    I've been playing the Warlock build with a few tweaks, and I have to say, for me it's play better than both dragonknight and sorcerer mage.
    Pros:
    - Depending on skill choices 3~5 skills that suck the HP from the enemy to yourself
    - Massive debuffs
    - Great sustain, you rarely are below 20% magicka casting spells all the time
    Cons:
    - Most of dmg is DoT, therefore the lack of burst
    - Exponential experience curve (becomes more and more effective with lvl, after getting 2 main skills Path of Shadow and Degeneration, you melt faces, but weak before that)
  • thoraya
    thoraya
    Well, I hope we are not destroying your thread soulstorm :disappointed_relieved:

    You suggest a 1/2/1 attribute build for bow/dual wield, focus more on weapon skills?
    tea
  • Soulstormkj
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    thoraya wrote: »
    Well, I hope we are not destroying your thread soulstorm :disappointed_relieved:

    You suggest a 1/2/1 attribute build for bow/dual wield, focus more on weapon skills?

    Yes this is because with medium armor you dont have much of an issue with stamina and you should enchant all your armor with + Magic. I am at vet rank 2 now and am currently having no issues with my stat distrubution.
  • Soulstormkj
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    I've been playing the Warlock build with a few tweaks, and I have to say, for me it's play better than both dragonknight and sorcerer mage.
    Pros:
    - Depending on skill choices 3~5 skills that suck the HP from the enemy to yourself
    - Massive debuffs
    - Great sustain, you rarely are below 20% magicka casting spells all the time
    Cons:
    - Most of dmg is DoT, therefore the lack of burst
    - Exponential experience curve (becomes more and more effective with lvl, after getting 2 main skills Path of Shadow and Degeneration, you melt faces, but weak before that)

    Yeah I chose to respec to this at vet rank 2, it is really fun in pve and you have a ton of mobility, but i feel like you NEED siphoning strikes to make it viable.
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