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Sorc 2 OP for death match
heng14rwb17_ESO
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Is sorc 2 OP for death match ?
Just spam fury and can get the most score, most kill, most assist.
Their streak mean they can live forever by teleport away when in danger.
Their pet mean a big meat shield for themselves and also give a big fat juicy heal to all included team mate.
How can we win against such monster ?
Edited by heng14rwb17_ESO on December 11, 2022 12:57AM Just spam fury and can get the most score, most kill, most assist.
Their streak mean they can live forever by teleport away when in danger.
Their pet mean a big meat shield for themselves and also give a big fat juicy heal to all included team mate.
How can we win against such monster ?
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catalyst10e✭✭✭✭Same way you've always killed a sorc, you attack the stamina bar. Cc them, then hammer down. Also kill the twilight, whent hey go to resummon it, interrupting them will also cc them and lock out of a heal. Streak is no worse than cloaking NB, if they run, let them it'll waste magicka."Why settle for just stabbing your foes when you can roast them alive in a gout of arcane fire?"
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Sir_Gentleman777✭✭✭heng14rwb17_ESO wrote: »Is sorc 2 OP for death match ?
Just spam fury and can get the most score, most kill, most assist.
Their streak mean they can live forever by teleport away when in danger.
Their pet mean a big meat shield for themselves and also give a big fat juicy heal to all included team mate.
How can we win against such monster ?
Get good? What stops you from also building a Sorc? There are tons of builds out there for all classes in all variations. And for every pot there is also a lid. I also get high kill and assist rates on my 1bar PVE NB. Yes, Sorcs are bloody beefy, but they are not invincible. And never forget to work as a team, that is why there are 4 in a group. It is not about you alone.
Just the other day i had a Deathmatch, our group had only 3 players and we won with 510 points. I had 11 kills, 15 assists and was 2nd best player. The best player had two kills more than I and was on the other team. But the big advantage we had, we played as a team. You never play against a class, you play against other players. And even if they all have Sorcs you can still nuke them. If they can't play their toons effectively, or in other words, if you are able to do it better, you will win.3 -
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I give up my DK.
For this death match event, i will use sorc and destroy everything in sight.
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Dr_Con✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭heng14rwb17_ESO wrote: »
I give up my DK.
For this death match event, i will use sorc and destroy everything in sight.
Ok cool good luck2 -
gariondavey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Everyone in this thread needs some better scoreboard add-on in their lifePC NA @gariondavey, BG, IC & Cyrodiil Focused Since October 2017 Stamplar (main), Magplar, Magsorc, Stamsorc, StamDK, MagDK, Stamblade, Magblade, Magden, Stamden2 -
AdamLAD✭✭✭✭✭Thinking something or someone is good in Bgs is pointless. Unless you are in high MMR. There's people in that match that went over 20 deaths. Tells you everything you need to know. Go and play in high MMR and get 10 kills 0 deaths. That's way way harder than getting 70kills against these people7
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axi✭✭✭✭✭I preffer for my enemy team to have sorc spamming endless fury and streak over templar spamming javeling+beam.5
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Turtle_Bot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭sigh... If sorc is truly that op to you, go build it yourself and get it to high mmr bgs or take it to cp openworld pvp. You'll see just how (not) "op" the class actually is.12 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Sorcs don't need a shred of nerfing. They may have a strength at one (1) part of the game, being Death match. However, we're struggling with the crumbs of any buff Zos has given us the last two patches in any part of the game. Those buffs weren't even for pvp either. Strictly for zookeeper dps.For the love of Kyne, buff sorc. PC NACP 2100+Star-Sïnger - Khajiit Magicka Sorc - EP Grand Overlord - Flawless Conqueror vMA/vBRP/vDSA no death/vHel Ra HM/vAA HM/vSO HM/vMoL HM/vHoF HM/vAS +2/vCR+3/vSS HMs/vKA HMs/vVH/vRG Oax HM/vDSR5 -
OBJnoob✭✭✭✭✭
✭So I know a lot of us think sorc needs buffing... And honestly I still think that, but I gotta be honest about one thing:
On Xbox NA I play high mmr solo que bgs with my current character. There's probably like 4 players that really stand out to me by name as being just hands down better than the rest of us. Out of those 4 the one that seems to do the very best ALL the time is a sorc. I was in a DM last night and he went 17-0. Thank goodness he was on my team. I could say our team was better... But that's really just because he was on it. For perspective I went 5-1. He was on my radar before DM weekend-- it doesn't matter what mode it is, he always dominates (not quite that hard maybe.)1 -
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✭Even Ember steals my kills. lmaoEdited by Four_Fingers on December 11, 2022 3:04PM2 -
Caribou77✭✭✭✭✭I think low and mid mmr bgs are often dominated by sorcs, as streak and spamming mages wrath are extremely effective until you’re up against experienced players who root you, kill you, and aren’t vulnerable to mages wrath.
Having said that, there is one magsorc who dominates the bgs I’m in and is an outlier. I whispered him a few times, asking if he had advice on how to use crystal frags more effectively, as mine are dodged more often than not. He said his are almost never dodged, AND that he has a really good, wired internet connection. This guy is amazingly fast, and by the time I notice one of his spells has hit me, I’m practically dead because he’s already hit me with 4 others I didn’t see. We could call him Streaking Bill, cause he is always streaking and firing off spells at 3 times the rate of the average player 😊.
Anyhow, guess my point is, if you have a great internet connection and fast reflexes, Magsorc can work well for you. If you answer no to either of those questions, forget it.
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SPR_of_HA_community✭✭✭✭Sorc is the most OP class in my opinion in PVP. Too many good skills and options.
Fast, fat, good sustain good damage, range dps ... , pets, streaks, negates ... .
Option to get any resource from any resource, regenerate resources from overload ultimate, pets ... .
With hybridization + vigor to all this.Edited by SPR_of_HA_community on December 12, 2022 6:47AM0 -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »
Meanwhile, Elmer Fudd looks on with "Nerf Templars" on his jacket."If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."6 -
Aces-High-82✭✭✭✭I think low and mid mmr bgs are often dominated by sorcs, as streak and spamming mages wrath are extremely effective until you’re up against experienced players who root you, kill you, and aren’t vulnerable to mages wrath.
Having said that, there is one magsorc who dominates the bgs I’m in and is an outlier. I whispered him a few times, asking if he had advice on how to use crystal frags more effectively, as mine are dodged more often than not. He said his are almost never dodged, AND that he has a really good, wired internet connection. This guy is amazingly fast, and by the time I notice one of his spells has hit me, I’m practically dead because he’s already hit me with 4 others I didn’t see. We could call him Streaking Bill, cause he is always streaking and firing off spells at 3 times the rate of the average player 😊.
Anyhow, guess my point is, if you have a great internet connection and fast reflexes, Magsorc can work well for you. If you answer no to either of those questions, forget it.
Crazy good package traffic manipulation software he has lol0 -
Aces-High-82✭✭✭✭SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »Sorc is the most OP class in my opinion in PVP. Too many good skills and options.
Fast, fat, good sustain good damage, range dps ... , pets, streaks, negates ... .
Option to get any resource from any resource, regenerate resources from overload ultimate, pets ... .
With hybridization + vigor to all this.
In your opinion 80k via heavy attack only isn't enough too.....2 -
SPR_of_HA_community✭✭✭✭Aces-High-82 wrote: »SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »Sorc is the most OP class in my opinion in PVP. Too many good skills and options.
Fast, fat, good sustain good damage, range dps ... , pets, streaks, negates ... .
Option to get any resource from any resource, regenerate resources from overload ultimate, pets ... .
With hybridization + vigor to all this.
In your opinion 80k via heavy attack only isn't enough too.....
You will not make 80k on heavy attack in PVP in current patch ) For PVE 80k is a small damage that is possible to make on spammable.0 -
Luede✭✭✭✭✭the only thing you should ask yourself is: why do i meet a sorc in the first place? The answer is that you probably have a pretty low ranking.6 -
Dr_Con✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »Aces-High-82 wrote: »SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »Sorc is the most OP class in my opinion in PVP. Too many good skills and options.
Fast, fat, good sustain good damage, range dps ... , pets, streaks, negates ... .
Option to get any resource from any resource, regenerate resources from overload ultimate, pets ... .
With hybridization + vigor to all this.
In your opinion 80k via heavy attack only isn't enough too.....
You will not make 80k on heavy attack in PVP in current patch ) For PVE 80k is a small damage that is possible to make on spammable.
No one should be allowed to one-shot other players with a single heavy attack.Edited by Dr_Con on December 12, 2022 10:11AM2 -
SPR_of_HA_community✭✭✭✭SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »Aces-High-82 wrote: »SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »Sorc is the most OP class in my opinion in PVP. Too many good skills and options.
Fast, fat, good sustain good damage, range dps ... , pets, streaks, negates ... .
Option to get any resource from any resource, regenerate resources from overload ultimate, pets ... .
With hybridization + vigor to all this.
In your opinion 80k via heavy attack only isn't enough too.....
You will not make 80k on heavy attack in PVP in current patch ) For PVE 80k is a small damage that is possible to make on spammable.
No one should be allowed to one-shot other players with a single heavy attack.
Well, the same no one are allowed to nerf / delete class skills - like wings were and HA builds werefor 7 years and moltan armment was.
And not allowed to change game mechanics after game is in release state.
Looks like - some are allowed
So game looks quite in bad condition now.
The same no one is allowed to make a game with tons of bugs and do not fix bugs for years Edited by SPR_of_HA_community on December 12, 2022 1:40PM1 -
Overamera✭✭✭✭SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »Sorc is the most OP class in my opinion in PVP. Too many good skills and options.
Fast, fat, good sustain good damage, range dps ... , pets, streaks, negates ... .
Option to get any resource from any resource, regenerate resources from overload ultimate, pets ... .
With hybridization + vigor to all this.
Just use a gap closer and the sorc will die like a fly2 -
SPR_of_HA_community✭✭✭✭SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »Sorc is the most OP class in my opinion in PVP. Too many good skills and options.
Fast, fat, good sustain good damage, range dps ... , pets, streaks, negates ... .
Option to get any resource from any resource, regenerate resources from overload ultimate, pets ... .
With hybridization + vigor to all this.
Just use a gap closer and the sorc will die like a fly
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Not only base on fact, that it is unkillable sorc builds that is not even possible to kill one on one, but even base on game mechanics, that let you press 1 action per second, so if sorc just jump throug you you will breake free the moment - sorc already be far away from you and to jump on him you need to be in 22 meters range.
But even more simple situation where he can just jump to his command - so jump on him will not even be exeptable choise.
So not really good and helpfull advice.
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[edited for baiting]Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 13, 2022 11:52AM2 -
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✭✭✭heng14rwb17_ESO wrote: »<snip>
For this death match event, i will use sorc and destroy everything in sight.
22 killing blows and only 500k damage. I mean let's face it, you stole your teammate's kills.
Here's the meta way.- Equip Gladiator set
- Spam Endless Fury
- ???
- Profit
Edited by SkaraMinoc on December 12, 2022 5:19PMPC NA3
