Should ESO+ include removal of item cap?

misfitmanic

Pretty much the title, should ESO+ benefits be reworked to include the removal of inventory capacity limits for player bank? Existing ESO+ capacity limits could be granted to non-subscribers at the same time.

OsUfi

Good grief, no. Some people hoard way to much junk. It wouldn't just break the servers, it'd break the internets itself.

A bag for surveys and maps like a craft bag would be nice, though.

misfitmanic

OsUfi wrote: »

Good grief, no. Some people hoard way to much junk. It wouldn't just break the servers, it'd break the internets itself.

A bag for surveys and maps like a craft bag would be nice, though.

How so? How do so many other games pull it off? I have played mobile games with unlimited inventory caps. I mean sure, there is likely a theoretical limit, but we're talking calculator work here. The real limit is how many unique items ZOS has introduced (and continues to introduce) into the game.

opalcity

It'll never happen because that lowers the incentive for people to buy inventory upgrades through the Crown Store.

Sarannah

Even though I would want massively more inventory(500) and bank space(2k), a limitless amount would probably break the servers.

What takes up most of my space, is master writs and surveys. If we could get a master writs bag and survey bag for ESO+, I'd love it! That would save me most of my space.

Mesite

I'd like to know which games have no inventory cap though as it inventory management can be a pain

bmnoble

An increase in the inventory cap would be nice but I think removing the cap completely is unrealistic.

No matter how massively you increase the space and say it would be theoretically enough there are players that would still manage to fill up all that space, only to ask for more.

But even a small increase from the current 480 inventory slots in the bank to an even 500 to make it the same as the guild bank size would be a nice increase.

That shouldn't kill the servers, if they can increase the character inventory with those inventory pets they should be able to have some allowance for a slight increase in bank space.

ghastley

I don’t use the maximum we have now. My characters typically have 130 to 160 slots and my bank is under 400. Yes ,I do have to pause and empty stuff out from time to time, but that’s no different from eating food, or repairing gear.

I suspect those who want unlimited inventory just want to stop doing that chore, and would move on to complaining about another. Why do I actually need to fight trash mobs? Can’t they just die in my awesome presence?

Amottica

Umm. no. ESO+ already gets a nice crafting bag and double bank space. Part of the reason for limits is server load since the larger the query, the larger the load. Bottomless everything is a little much.

Tandor

They claim to have removed character-based achievements because they had to reduce the size of the database in order to allow future content additions and performance improvements, so increasing inventory slots and thereby the database could not happen now without their original claim being even more questionable than it already is.

Tenthirty2

Right now some poor ESO database analyst is having nightmares about this request.

FeedbackOnly

OsUfi wrote: »

Good grief, no. Some people hoard way to much junk. It wouldn't just break the servers, it'd break the internets itself.

A bag for surveys and maps like a craft bag would be nice, though.

Just sell us more storage boxes or special boxes for surveys

Kiralyn2000

Should ESO+ include removal of item cap?

Heck no. There's already the craft bag & double bank space (and double house space). And the set collection book.

Why are you keeping so much junk?

sPark101

The craft bag has infinite room and has not broke the servers.
I vote Yes on unlimited bank space.

HedgeHugger

Maybe some things should be capped?
I am a hoarder. Doesn't matter which game, I pick things up unless I absolutely have no space. Just today I realised that I would have 250 stacks of Maple, 50000+. That's just maple. How many other materials are there?

Of course it would make inventory sorting a doddle (never have to do that again). I could dump all those gold items, surveys, maps, and just about every other thing I own into the bank.
Getting it back out again would be a 'mare, unless i knew what I was looking for. Scrolling through sections in the bank takes forever already. Especially on console.

magnusthorek

Absolutely not! Quite the opposite, IMHO. EVERYONE should have a limited version of Crafting Bag, expandable through Crown store upgrades, like GW2 does. ESO+ players would still retain their infiniteness (after all, expanding a limited version of a Crafting Bag - i.e. 10k per item or more — would be extremely expensive)

Finedaible

The problem is they deliberately designed the game to fill your inventory with random, non-stackable junk for what seems to be nothing else than a 'motivation' to subscribe to eso+. This was fine in the early days of One Tamriel when the only inventory fodder was crafting materials, but as time went on each major update introduced more and more 'treasures' and inventory filler that drops from enemies and containers. Some players are fine with the reasoning that it's ok to have this filler because it can be sold for a few coins to merchants, but then ZoS started pushing Merchant assistants and Banker assistants with exorbitant price tags - you could buy a whole dlc for the price of one of them - when these assistants should have been something obtainable via gameplay like Pirharri was. It's just excessive monetization and they were better off sticking with the subscription-only model instead of whatever this is.

Kiralyn2000

sPark101 wrote: »

The craft bag has infinite room and has not broke the servers.
I vote Yes on unlimited bank space.

The craft bag doesn't actually take that much data, since the list of crafting materials isn't actually that huge, and it's just a couple data points (item, quantity).

The stuff in general inventory can have a lot more to it - for instance, every piece of armor has it's location, set, enchantment, quality, durability, trait, motif, etc.

AzuraFan

No. I'm an ESO+ subscriber and I don't want this. The craft bag is essential because of the way crafting and ingredients are designed. Nobody should need infinite bank space.

(I know if this happened, I'd just fill my bank with crap I'll never use. I think there's some law in gaming that says the number of items you think you'll need "one day" expands as your inventory/bank capacity expands.)

FluffWit

Unlimited is obviously gonna cause problems but it should be at least doubled to 480/960.

Remembering 900 items in my bank won't cause problems.

FluffWit

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

sPark101 wrote: »

The craft bag has infinite room and has not broke the servers.
I vote Yes on unlimited bank space.

The craft bag doesn't actually take that much data, since the list of crafting materials isn't actually that huge, and it's just a couple data points (item, quantity).

The stuff in general inventory can have a lot more to it - for instance, every piece of armor has it's location, set, enchantment, quality, durability, trait, motif, etc.

I'd imagine the real memory hog is the 5000 items I have in 20 houses.

Amottica

FluffWit wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

sPark101 wrote: »

The craft bag has infinite room and has not broke the servers.
I vote Yes on unlimited bank space.

The craft bag doesn't actually take that much data, since the list of crafting materials isn't actually that huge, and it's just a couple data points (item, quantity).

The stuff in general inventory can have a lot more to it - for instance, every piece of armor has it's location, set, enchantment, quality, durability, trait, motif, etc.

I'd imagine the real memory hog is the 5000 items I have in 20 houses.

Furnishings in each home is within the design limit, and one home is all that is dealt with when you enter one of the homes.

It is why the last time Zenimax gave us more storage it was small chests that were not linked together nor connected to our bank storage. When we look at one all that is dealt with is the 30-60 items in that chest.

Everest_Lionheart

All the furniture I have been digging up from antiquities would sure be better placed in my bank than in one of my houses. It’s starting to look like an episode of hoarders 🙈

Molydeus

Sarannah wrote: »

Even though I would want massively more inventory(500) and bank space(2k), a limitless amount would probably break the servers.

What takes up most of my space, is master writs and surveys. If we could get a master writs bag and survey bag for ESO+, I'd love it! That would save me most of my space.

Agreed on the master writs. I do surveys and treasure maps the instant I get them so they don't build up in my inventory, but I have probably 300 purple crafting writs and maybe 80 to 100 gold that I need to do. I have barely any bank space left.

DMuehlhausen

misfitmanic wrote: »

Pretty much the title, should ESO+ benefits be reworked to include the removal of inventory capacity limits for player bank? Existing ESO+ capacity limits could be granted to non-subscribers at the same time.

What? No. You can't have people with better gear than other people then it's Pay 2 Win and that would be terrible. I think they should add in more perks. Like a Furnishing bag like the crafting mat bag. I shouldn't be using 3 Notable houses that are full with furnishing items I may want to use later. Yes I could probably eliminate half as they are terrible items and I'll never use them, but it's still true that I shouldn't need multiple large homes as storage containers.

The_Boggart

Non ESO + inventory with bank set at the original 200 items is becoming impossible for each Dlc introduces style items and sometimes new alchemicals.

magnusthorek

Impossible? No. Hard? Very!

I have all 6 Master Writ's Chests reserved for crafting. The big ones (60 slots) for Refined Materials, Upgrade Items, Alchemical Ingredients and Style Materials; and the small ones for Enchanting Runes, Pre-Crafted Daily Potions/Poisons and two for Gear Sets I *might* need again in the future. Plus a whole Guild Bank I use to save whatever I can't in those chests. Provisioning Materials that worth keeping (i.e. those I use for my own gaming food) I keep in the Bank. Everything else crating-related I'm forced to discard.

It works, but especially Refined Materials and Style Materials fills very, very fast and the only thing ZOS does to alleviate that is once in a VERY long while throw an ESO+ trial that cleans them up. That's why an Expandable Limited Crafting Bag would be great. Subscribers will still have theirs with an infinite limit, while non-subscribers will at the very least be able to breathe a little more, easing their management a bit. AND would/could create a financial income for ZOS, since, I dare say, the vast majority of players is made of non-subscribers that'll buy upgrade slots often.

Nestor

They could make it Off Line Storage, much like our Houses are. The items in the Storage Inventory are not available through normal means, but most be removed and brought into normal inventory to be used.

Dr_Con

OsUfi wrote: »

Good grief, no. Some people hoard way to much junk. It wouldn't just break the servers, it'd break the internets itself.

A bag for surveys and maps like a craft bag would be nice, though.

We already have space saving options, I call it the "DELETE THE WORTHLESS ONES AND DO THE VALUABLE ONES" option

Ragnarok0130

Amottica wrote: »

Umm. no. ESO+ already gets a nice crafting bag and double bank space. Part of the reason for limits is server load since the larger the query, the larger the load. Bottomless everything is a little much.

Fallout 76 kept using this same excuse and then kept increasing the stash limit several times in a row from 200 at Beta to 1200 last I played and then added in player vending so I'm skeptical when any player claims it will kill the servers; unless we work for ZoS we simply don't know if the inventory increase would in fact bork the servers. That being said one thing we do know with certainty is that ZoS never misses an opportunity to create a problem and then sell us the solution to that intentionally created problem in the Crown Store for a premium price tag.

One thing that could potentially help mitigate any issues is to move accounts that haven't been accesses in 30-60 days to cold storage like they did during the server sharding to offload some of the database. I don't see an unlimited bank in the future but I could see increases in the upper bank storage limit, but even that is unlikely since ESO feels like it's in maintenance mode right now. I would definitely welcome a bank increase since my bank slots is at max and my space is 90% full with various situational raiding sets.

misfitmanic

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

sPark101 wrote: »

The craft bag has infinite room and has not broke the servers.
I vote Yes on unlimited bank space.

The craft bag doesn't actually take that much data, since the list of crafting materials isn't actually that huge, and it's just a couple data points (item, quantity).

The stuff in general inventory can have a lot more to it - for instance, every piece of armor has it's location, set, enchantment, quality, durability, trait, motif, etc.

Ok. So a few extra rows on the spreadsheet. Easy.