I'm guessing broken "true way clay dials" lead.

Bergzorn

Dev: "The drop probability is supposed to be 0.1."

Coder: accidentally puts it in as 0.1%

QA: "Working as intended."

Neugeniko

ZOS_Hadeostry wrote: »

Greetings,

After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic.

Thank you for your understanding

I would prefer it stayed in a more visible section of the forums to further expose this sad design by accountants.

ApoAlaia

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all, confirming that the "true way clay dials" lead is not working as intended. However, the team is aware and has a fix for this. The fix will be available in the next incremental.

Also we checked with the team on "frog metal buckle". This is dropping and working as intended.

So... 0/216 is 'working as intended'.

I... lost for words.

O/252 now.

Are you sure this is working as intended?

Also, I find these thread relocations incomprehensible so please do not thank me for my understanding.

redspecter23

I'll echo what others are saying and ask ZOS to please double check the numbers. Many players are reporting hundreds of blacksmithing writs done with no lead drop.

First, check that it really is working as intended.
Second, if what we are seeing is intended, please consider changing the intended drop rate.

Doing potentially hundreds of writs and not getting a lead is not a good thing. You get that, right?

ApoAlaia

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all, confirming that the "true way clay dials" lead is not working as intended. However, the team is aware and has a fix for this. The fix will be available in the next incremental.

Also we checked with the team on "frog metal buckle". This is dropping and working as intended.

So... 0/216 is 'working as intended'.

I... lost for words.

O/252 now.

Are you sure this is working as intended?

Also, I find these thread relocations incomprehensible so please do not thank me for my understanding.

0/288

Glorious.

Alcast

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all, confirming that the "true way clay dials" lead is not working as intended. However, the team is aware and has a fix for this. The fix will be available in the next incremental.

Also we checked with the team on "frog metal buckle". This is dropping and working as intended.

So... 0/216 is 'working as intended'.

I... lost for words.

O/252 now.

Are you sure this is working as intended?

Also, I find these thread relocations incomprehensible so please do not thank me for my understanding.

0/288

Glorious.

I am fairly certain this is buggy. We only have one or two vaguely confirmed drops of this lead and they also only guess that it came from the blacksmithing lead (when looking at this image in the article). It is pretty much impossible that nobody else got it yet, given that so many players do daily writs.

Unless, we are looking at the wrong place. ZOS didn't wether they checked the info on their internal test server or on the live server either, would be nice to get clarification.

A clarification would be great @ZOS_Kevin

We also have no information wether the Storm-Weathered Drafting Top lead actually drops or not, nobody has found it yet.

ApoAlaia

Alcast wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all, confirming that the "true way clay dials" lead is not working as intended. However, the team is aware and has a fix for this. The fix will be available in the next incremental.

Also we checked with the team on "frog metal buckle". This is dropping and working as intended.

So... 0/216 is 'working as intended'.

I... lost for words.

O/252 now.

Are you sure this is working as intended?

Also, I find these thread relocations incomprehensible so please do not thank me for my understanding.

0/288

Glorious.

I am fairly certain this is buggy. We only have one or two vaguely confirmed drops of this lead and they also only guess that it came from the blacksmithing lead (when looking at this image in the article). It is pretty much impossible that nobody else got it yet, given that so many players do daily writs.

Unless, we are looking at the wrong place. ZOS didn't wether they checked the info on their internal test server or on the live server either, would be nice to get clarification.

A clarification would be great @ZOS_Kevin

We also have no information wether the Storm-Weathered Drafting Top lead actually drops or not, nobody has found it yet.

I am probably the least indicated for this anyway.

I had to loot 113 fire moth thingies to get the lead.

Because ZOS' answer to those like myself that often find themselves in the 'wrong' outlier cluster is

ZOS_GinaBruno

Alcast wrote: »

We also have no information wether the Storm-Weathered Drafting Top lead actually drops or not, nobody has found it yet.

Just wanted to let everyone know we confirmed this lead is currently bugged and not dropping. We'll work on getting this fixed in an upcoming incremental patch.

ApoAlaia

Alcast wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all, confirming that the "true way clay dials" lead is not working as intended. However, the team is aware and has a fix for this. The fix will be available in the next incremental.

Also we checked with the team on "frog metal buckle". This is dropping and working as intended.

So... 0/216 is 'working as intended'.

I... lost for words.

O/252 now.

Are you sure this is working as intended?

Also, I find these thread relocations incomprehensible so please do not thank me for my understanding.

0/288

Glorious.

I am fairly certain this is buggy. We only have one or two vaguely confirmed drops of this lead and they also only guess that it came from the blacksmithing lead (when looking at this image in the article). It is pretty much impossible that nobody else got it yet, given that so many players do daily writs.

Unless, we are looking at the wrong place. ZOS didn't wether they checked the info on their internal test server or on the live server either, would be nice to get clarification.

A clarification would be great @ZOS_Kevin

We also have no information wether the Storm-Weathered Drafting Top lead actually drops or not, nobody has found it yet.

Just realised that the picture shows a Blacksmith’s Crate IX.

I don't get those, I get Blacksmith’s Crate X.

redspecter23

ApoAlaia wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all, confirming that the "true way clay dials" lead is not working as intended. However, the team is aware and has a fix for this. The fix will be available in the next incremental.

Also we checked with the team on "frog metal buckle". This is dropping and working as intended.

So... 0/216 is 'working as intended'.

I... lost for words.

O/252 now.

Are you sure this is working as intended?

Also, I find these thread relocations incomprehensible so please do not thank me for my understanding.

0/288

Glorious.

I am fairly certain this is buggy. We only have one or two vaguely confirmed drops of this lead and they also only guess that it came from the blacksmithing lead (when looking at this image in the article). It is pretty much impossible that nobody else got it yet, given that so many players do daily writs.

Unless, we are looking at the wrong place. ZOS didn't wether they checked the info on their internal test server or on the live server either, would be nice to get clarification.

A clarification would be great @ZOS_Kevin

We also have no information wether the Storm-Weathered Drafting Top lead actually drops or not, nobody has found it yet.

Just realised that the picture shows a Blacksmith’s Crate IX.

I don't get those, I get Blacksmith’s Crate X.

Interesting. I'll be respeccing into tier 9 and doing writs at that level for a few days to test. That would be quite annoying if the intended method requires specifically rank 9 and not 10, but stranger things have happened.

redspecter23

Update: After downgrading my blacksmithing to tier 9 instead of tier 10, I pulled the Frog Metal Buckle lead on toon 5 today. I'm not saying for sure this is what's required, just that it happened to work for me. I'm hoping we can get some more data on this.

Necrotech_Master

redspecter23 wrote: »

Update: After downgrading my blacksmithing to tier 9 instead of tier 10, I pulled the Frog Metal Buckle lead on toon 5 today. I'm not saying for sure this is what's required, just that it happened to work for me. I'm hoping we can get some more data on this.

this sounds like its bugged to me if its only working on a specific crafting tier

redspecter23

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

Update: After downgrading my blacksmithing to tier 9 instead of tier 10, I pulled the Frog Metal Buckle lead on toon 5 today. I'm not saying for sure this is what's required, just that it happened to work for me. I'm hoping we can get some more data on this.

this sounds like its bugged to me if its only working on a specific crafting tier

But ZOS checked and said the sourcing is correct. They did a thorough check, right?

Necrotech_Master

redspecter23 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

Update: After downgrading my blacksmithing to tier 9 instead of tier 10, I pulled the Frog Metal Buckle lead on toon 5 today. I'm not saying for sure this is what's required, just that it happened to work for me. I'm hoping we can get some more data on this.

this sounds like its bugged to me if its only working on a specific crafting tier

But ZOS checked and said the sourcing is correct. They did a thorough check, right?

likely story lol

ApoAlaia

redspecter23 wrote: »

Update: After downgrading my blacksmithing to tier 9 instead of tier 10, I pulled the Frog Metal Buckle lead on toon 5 today. I'm not saying for sure this is what's required, just that it happened to work for me. I'm hoping we can get some more data on this.

@ZOS_GinaBruno could we please get confirmation that this is what the developers intended? That they intend us to re-spec and run the writs at a tier lower than normal?

redspecter23

I'm about to load up my EU account as well as 2nd, 3rd and 4th accounts to get a larger sample size. It's entirely possible I just got really lucky and the level has nothing to do with it. I'll get some more data soon.

ApoAlaia

redspecter23 wrote: »

I'm about to load up my EU account as well as 2nd, 3rd and 4th accounts to get a larger sample size. It's entirely possible I just got really lucky and the level has nothing to do with it. I'll get some more data soon.

Thanks, much appreciated

ZOS_GinaBruno

ApoAlaia wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

Update: After downgrading my blacksmithing to tier 9 instead of tier 10, I pulled the Frog Metal Buckle lead on toon 5 today. I'm not saying for sure this is what's required, just that it happened to work for me. I'm hoping we can get some more data on this.

@ZOS_GinaBruno could we please get confirmation that this is what the developers intended? That they intend us to re-spec and run the writs at a tier lower than normal?

No, this is not intentional and we did discover an issue with tier 10's specifically. We're working on getting this fixed, though just to set expectations, it won't be in next week's patch as we're still working on the fix itself.

ApoAlaia

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

Update: After downgrading my blacksmithing to tier 9 instead of tier 10, I pulled the Frog Metal Buckle lead on toon 5 today. I'm not saying for sure this is what's required, just that it happened to work for me. I'm hoping we can get some more data on this.

@ZOS_GinaBruno could we please get confirmation that this is what the developers intended? That they intend us to re-spec and run the writs at a tier lower than normal?

No, this is not intentional and we did discover an issue with tier 10's specifically. We're working on getting this fixed, though just to set expectations, it won't be in next week's patch as we're still working on the fix itself.

Thanks, much appreciated

Will wait until the fix is rolled out.

Alcast

ApoAlaia wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all, confirming that the "true way clay dials" lead is not working as intended. However, the team is aware and has a fix for this. The fix will be available in the next incremental.

Also we checked with the team on "frog metal buckle". This is dropping and working as intended.

So... 0/216 is 'working as intended'.

I... lost for words.

O/252 now.

Are you sure this is working as intended?

Also, I find these thread relocations incomprehensible so please do not thank me for my understanding.

0/288

Glorious.

I am fairly certain this is buggy. We only have one or two vaguely confirmed drops of this lead and they also only guess that it came from the blacksmithing lead (when looking at this image in the article). It is pretty much impossible that nobody else got it yet, given that so many players do daily writs.

Unless, we are looking at the wrong place. ZOS didn't wether they checked the info on their internal test server or on the live server either, would be nice to get clarification.

A clarification would be great @ZOS_Kevin

We also have no information wether the Storm-Weathered Drafting Top lead actually drops or not, nobody has found it yet.

Just realised that the picture shows a Blacksmith’s Crate IX.

I don't get those, I get Blacksmith’s Crate X.

Our hero, thank you.

ApoAlaia

Alcast wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all, confirming that the "true way clay dials" lead is not working as intended. However, the team is aware and has a fix for this. The fix will be available in the next incremental.

Also we checked with the team on "frog metal buckle". This is dropping and working as intended.

So... 0/216 is 'working as intended'.

I... lost for words.

O/252 now.

Are you sure this is working as intended?

Also, I find these thread relocations incomprehensible so please do not thank me for my understanding.

0/288

Glorious.

I am fairly certain this is buggy. We only have one or two vaguely confirmed drops of this lead and they also only guess that it came from the blacksmithing lead (when looking at this image in the article). It is pretty much impossible that nobody else got it yet, given that so many players do daily writs.

Unless, we are looking at the wrong place. ZOS didn't wether they checked the info on their internal test server or on the live server either, would be nice to get clarification.

A clarification would be great @ZOS_Kevin

We also have no information wether the Storm-Weathered Drafting Top lead actually drops or not, nobody has found it yet.

Just realised that the picture shows a Blacksmith’s Crate IX.

I don't get those, I get Blacksmith’s Crate X.

Our hero, thank you.

Pleasure, at least we got clarification and a fix in the works.

Once the devs get into the 'system is working fine, this is a you problem' rut things can get pretty tedious.

Fortunately it wasn't the case this time.

MyNameIsElias

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all, confirming that the "true way clay dials" lead is not working as intended. However, the team is aware and has a fix for this. The fix will be available in the next incremental.

Also we checked with the team on "frog metal buckle". This is dropping and working as intended.

Hello! After reading todays patch notes, i see no mention of the "true way clay dial" lead being fixed. Can you please clarify if you meant today's incremental, or a future incremental?

alienmz

None of the three broken leads is mentioned in the patch notes - a clarification would be fine.

NinjaApacHe

MyNameIsElias wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all, confirming that the "true way clay dials" lead is not working as intended. However, the team is aware and has a fix for this. The fix will be available in the next incremental.

Also we checked with the team on "frog metal buckle". This is dropping and working as intended.

Hello! After reading todays patch notes, i see no mention of the "true way clay dial" lead being fixed. Can you please clarify if you meant today's incremental, or a future incremental?

This. Can you let us know, please, ZOS???

Sythen88411

@ZOS_GinaBruno

WuffyCerulei

Pinging @ZOS_Kevin as well

WuffyCerulei

I've tried the one Eldertide boss in High Isle several times post-patch, but nothing.

Aislinna

Reading Gina's message that was posted last Wednesday (Nov 9),

"We're working on getting this fixed, though just to set expectations, it won't be in next week's patch as we're still working on the fix itself."

She very clearly said it would not be in today's patch.

WuffyCerulei

Aislinna wrote: »

Reading Gina's message that was posted last Wednesday (Nov 9),

"We're working on getting this fixed, though just to set expectations, it won't be in next week's patch as we're still working on the fix itself."

She very clearly said it would not be in today's patch.

That was about the bug with the one Syrabane lead and writs, not the true way clay dials one.

Duke_Falcon

I'm thinking Lore wise the True Way Clay Dial may drop from this world boss. Ascendant Executioner & Ascendant Harrower: @ Dark Stone Hollow on High Isle. There's a quest giver right out front that belongs to the Stone Druids, who are The True Way, and its like a Stone Quarry when you go in there.

Bergzorn wrote: »

Dev: "The drop probability is supposed to be 0.1."

Coder: accidentally puts it in as 0.1%

QA: "Working as intended."

So is the drop impossible to get, or is it just 1% instead of 10%?