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Battlegrounds Weekend- Chaos Ball

ZOS_Kevin
ZOS_Kevin
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Who’s ready to play a little Chaos Ball? 😈

The Chaos Ball Weekend has begun! Get in there and play some Chaos Ball to earn a 25% AP bonus in all Battlegrounds this weekend.

As this is the second Battlegrounds Weekend, we again ask for your feedback as you play over the weekend. You can provide all feedback in this thread. Thanks.
Edited by ZOS_Kevin on October 18, 2022 2:14PM
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  • Indigogo
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    In the meantime, we’ll consider additional ways to keep Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds interesting and exciting (for example, potentially special rulesets or weekend events) 

    When you ask mum for Bonestorm, and she gets you Lee Carvalo's Putting Challenge.

    Personally, I'm not going to touch bgs, event or no.
    I'm looking forward to seeing if the regular bg crowd feels rewarded and enriched by these one mode events..
  • Darkmage1337
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    A 25% AP bonus for BGs is largely unnoticeable and is hardly any incentive for the average player to care, especially those that don't do BGs regularly in the first place. 25% is miniscule. 50% is good. 100% is better.
    Besides, players can gain AP at a much faster rate in Cyrodiil compared to BGs, anyway.
    The common denominator is time.

    The base BG AP-gain rate is long overdue for an update/upgrade in order to be competitive with Cyrodiil's AP-gain rate.
    BGs already have a long matchmaking queue time (solo or a group); plus, each match is 10-15 minutes long.
    That is an extremely long time to wait for only a very miniscule AP-gain.
    Why bother waiting around for BGs when Cyrodiil is already better for AP-gain and always available?
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  • Dangranma_Burgrukgad
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    Only people interested in this is who is working on achievmente, once they get it no one will show anymore.
  • VixxVexx
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    This just shows us that feedback threads are absolutely pointless.
    The last BG event was also +25% AP and everyone in the last thread mentioned it was too low.

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    [edited for bashing]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 14, 2022 2:33PM
  • Luede
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    maybe you should first implement a way where I could spend my 40 million APs wisely
  • Firstmep
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    Higher drop chance for motifs, exp bonus (double) would get newer players much more interested than 25% ap.
  • ChunkyCat
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    call me when the Deathmatch Weekend is up
  • MCBIZZLE300
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    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
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    Who’s ready to play a little Chaos Ball? 😈

    The Chaos Ball Weekend has begun! Get in there and play some Chaos Ball to earn a 25% AP bonus in all Battlegrounds this weekend.

    As this is the second Battlegrounds Weekend, we again ask for your feedback as you play over the weekend. You can provide all feedback in this thread. Thanks.

    BORING
  • Soarora
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    It being 5 days instead of 2 or 3 somehow has had the opposite effect as intended… I DON’T want to battleground during the battleground “weekend” because it’s just… not a weekend. I don’t want to play the same battleground 10 times before playing a different one, personally.
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  • MCBIZZLE300
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    Double telvar weekend instead please.
  • Necrotech_Master
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    definitely need a much higher AP gain, since you dont earn AP for kills during the match and the AP amount is pretty fixed based on placement in the match, so faster matches = faster AP (assuming the queue is also fast)

    i also think that calling it a weekend is probably a misnomer, but i understand that zos are people too and probably dont work on the weekends unless there is some massive server issue lol

    so it would make more sense to start the event on fri and go to monday as that would mostly only cover the actual weekend
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  • Caribou77
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    1) NO ONE wants a single BG event all weekend. NO ONE. So, what’s the reasoning behind this?

    2) Chaosball is likely the least popular game. I notice significantly more “back biters” just going for kills against people trying to play the game, and ignoring the chaosball completely.

    3) NEW CONTENT WILL ATTRACT MORE PLAYERS TO BGs.

    4) NEW CONTENT WILL ATTRACT MORE PLAYERS TO BGs.

    5) Players would like a queue where they can select Deatmatch or Other.
  • React
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    These weekends are totally inadequate as the "special events" we were promised. We were told that there would be no PVP content coming at all this year due to the code rewrite, making it a total of four years since our last PVP content dropped in the form of a single BG map.

    The incentive of 25% bonus AP is laughable. Being forced to play the same gamemode over and over is laughable.

    The fact that the Imperial city celebration, or "double telvar event" was cancelled amidst all this is like a slap in the face.

    At the bare minimum, you should be doubling the AP in battlegrounds for these "events". Realistically, the majority of PVP players do not even play battlegrounds and would prefer different events altogether. Events like double tel var or double AP in IC/Cyro would be a far greater incentive to stick around despite 0 pvp content being released while the promised code work is being done.
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  • Stapledon
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    I'm a regular BGs player on xbox EU and enjoy all the modes to varying degrees, believe it or not Chaosball is one of my favourites, whether it's as a healer supporting the ball holder or aggressively and relentlessly chasing down an opponent ball carrier. I find it a fun game mode.

    Since this latest weekend event started games have definitely seemed short on players, but I've had a few good matches and a few one sided ones. After 2 days though it's getting boring doing the same mode.

    In my opinion an event like this needs much better rewards and incentives to play, as others have commented, 5 days is far too long, especially given the lacklustre bonus to AP, give is regular players and new players alike some unique rewards, PVP exclusive, and decent rewards to work towards upon reaching some target that takes time to achieve over the event.

    An event like this over 5 days could be amazing for PVP but instead I think it will do little to encourage more people to play BGs and many regular players simply won't take part.
    Edited by Stapledon on October 15, 2022 11:59PM
  • Einher2137
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    I enjoy chaos ball, but not when i am forced to play only this mode, i am hating this event more and more.
  • Anhedonie
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    I don't think 25% bonus is gonna motivate a lot of people tbh.
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  • OsUfi
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    Enjoyed Chaos Ball this weekend. Didn't play as much as I wanted as the Explorers event meant me cashing in as many surveys as I could.

    Feedback, I think these events should only be 2 days, Sat and Sun. I also think the AP buff could be 50%. I know the intent is to give the PvPers a little something over attracting new folks to BG, but 25% is negligible.

    Cheers ZoS, hope you keep having these weekends.
  • SimonThesis
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    Even with the AP bonus, AP is made waaaaay faster in cyrodiil. You can be in group flipping cyrodiil keeps and its 3 resources every 5 minutes making much more ap.

    25% is not nearly enough to participate, at least make it exciting. Up the AP to at least 50%, give us a new motif style that only drops from battlegrounds during the event, apply a debuff maybe a uncleanseable ice tick or something, maybe allow CP battlegrounds something [snip]
    [edited for bashing]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 16, 2022 5:50PM
  • Treeshka
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    In my opinion these weekend events should be rewarding double Alliance Point rewards and should only last two days. Other than that if these game modes rotates like this, people who are chasing specific achievements from specific game mode can try to get them easily. It is really frustrating to get into a Capture the Relic game if you are trying to get Chaos Guardian achievement.
  • Urzigurumash
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    I enjoy these new events, and I love Chaosball. I'm not the only old BG'er on my server who thinks Chaosball can be the most exciting and competitive (you can't farm the weakest team like in DM) mode of all if:

    - all players are of equal experience and play to win

    - it's a good map (Ularra, Foyada, and Ald Carac are the best, Mor Khazgur and the Arcane University are too large with too many hard to reach spots)

    - nobody brings a speedtank build. Nothing these days holds a candle to ye olde Trollking+Orgnum+Beekeeper, or later on Alessian WWs, but they can still spoil the mode. Not to fault the players of course, rather they should be commended for playing to win as they should be, but:

    As most everybody agrees, simply putting an uncleansable snare on the Ball would go a long way to helping every match be as fun and competitive as this mode can be.

    As for the events in general, I think it would be neat if there was an event specific Leaderboard with a big payout to the top spots, and not AP, but Mats, especially Columbine, Bugloss, Perfect Roe, Heroism reagents, etc., since these are the things a Vet PvPer needs the most. Or just a big gold prize, like 250k to number 1, or something. (Xbox valuation, bit lower than PC)
    Edited by Urzigurumash on October 16, 2022 7:56PM
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  • FeedbackOnly
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    Indigogo wrote: »
    In the meantime, we’ll consider additional ways to keep Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds interesting and exciting (for example, potentially special rulesets or weekend events) 

    When you ask mum for Bonestorm, and she gets you Lee Carvalo's Putting Challenge.

    Personally, I'm not going to touch bgs, event or no.
    I'm looking forward to seeing if the regular bg crowd feels rewarded and enriched by these one mode events..

    What makes you not interested in the event? @Indigogo
  • FeedbackOnly
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    I enjoy these new events, and I love Chaosball. I'm not the only old BG'er on my server who thinks Chaosball can be the most exciting and competitive (you can't farm the weakest team like in DM) mode of all if:

    - all players are of equal experience and play to win

    - it's a good map (Ularra, Foyada, and Ald Carac are the best, Mor Khazgur and the Arcane University are too large with too many hard to reach spots)

    - nobody brings a speedtank build. Nothing these days holds a candle to ye olde Trollking+Orgnum+Beekeeper, or later on Alessian WWs, but they can still spoil the mode. Not to fault the players of course, rather they should be commended for playing to win as they should be, but:

    As most everybody agrees, simply putting an uncleansable snare on the Ball would go a long way to helping every match be as fun and competitive as this mode can be.

    As for the events in general, I think it would be neat if there was an event specific Leaderboard with a big payout to the top spots, and not AP, but Mats, especially Columbine, Bugloss, Perfect Roe, Heroism reagents, etc., since these are the things a Vet PvPer needs the most. Or just a big gold prize, like 250k to number 1, or something. (Xbox valuation, bit lower than PC)

    Maybe like 20k...250k is far to much for a leaderboard reward
  • Urzigurumash
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    I enjoy these new events, and I love Chaosball. I'm not the only old BG'er on my server who thinks Chaosball can be the most exciting and competitive (you can't farm the weakest team like in DM) mode of all if:

    - all players are of equal experience and play to win

    - it's a good map (Ularra, Foyada, and Ald Carac are the best, Mor Khazgur and the Arcane University are too large with too many hard to reach spots)

    - nobody brings a speedtank build. Nothing these days holds a candle to ye olde Trollking+Orgnum+Beekeeper, or later on Alessian WWs, but they can still spoil the mode. Not to fault the players of course, rather they should be commended for playing to win as they should be, but:

    As most everybody agrees, simply putting an uncleansable snare on the Ball would go a long way to helping every match be as fun and competitive as this mode can be.

    As for the events in general, I think it would be neat if there was an event specific Leaderboard with a big payout to the top spots, and not AP, but Mats, especially Columbine, Bugloss, Perfect Roe, Heroism reagents, etc., since these are the things a Vet PvPer needs the most. Or just a big gold prize, like 250k to number 1, or something. (Xbox valuation, bit lower than PC)

    Maybe like 20k...250k is far to much for a leaderboard reward

    20k wouldn't even come close to cover the cost of alchemy / provisioning mats to get there though.
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  • Dr_Con
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    At least picking up the ball ensures the death of someone wearing Mara's Balm if they hold it too long.
  • Indigogo
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    Indigogo wrote: »
    In the meantime, we’ll consider additional ways to keep Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds interesting and exciting (for example, potentially special rulesets or weekend events) 

    When you ask mum for Bonestorm, and she gets you Lee Carvalo's Putting Challenge.

    Personally, I'm not going to touch bgs, event or no.
    I'm looking forward to seeing if the regular bg crowd feels rewarded and enriched by these one mode events..

    What makes you not interested in the event? @Indigogo

    Because I don't like bgs.

    Liking one form of pvp doesn't mean you like all forms of pvp.
    I think that needs to be drilled into zos who think they can dangle carrots away from cyro and think that will draw people away, and away from their problems. No.

    I'm happy bg players are getting something, though not remotely enough.

    Cyro should also have received commitment to the suggestion of something to help people hang on while they try and fix the mess.
  • Raikiki
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    I am enjoying the event so far. Only thing thats annoying is the long qeue. Is it bugged? Sometimes we dont find any match for 10 minutes and if we refresh the qeue we find a game right away. You should really fix this problem.
  • Aardappelboom
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    I like BG, any mode is pretty fun if you play the objective but the rewards are lacking to justify one mode for an entire weekend.

    I would really like to see specific weekend rewards, maybe even unique for every mode. It could be anything honestly, furniture, transmutes, a seperate leaderboard, a motif for a unique sword, even a memento would be more fun than 25% extra AP.

    So yeah, the events are fine, the rewards are very lacking. Deathmatch weekend however, will probably be a hit even without any rewards.
  • ketsparrowhawk
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    Amazing event! I've seen some unbelievable peak-performance gameplay moments. 4-squads of PVE tanks holding block at each other until the match is over. So much better than the brainless button-mashing of Deathmatch.
  • Stamicka
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    Can we have a Deathmatch weekend please? You guys are gathering feedback about these weekend events and maybe it looks like they aren't generating excitement. Don't draw conclusions until there is a deathmatch weekend though.
    Edited by Stamicka on October 17, 2022 5:46PM
  • chessalavakia_ESO
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    Instead of having it be a weekend of only being able to queue for a specific mode, why not make it a weekend where you can additionally queue for that specific mode.

    That way, the people that aren't interested in the mode of the weekend aren't stuck doing it if they really don't want to do so and can queue for all the other modes besides it.

    To avoid having population issues, you could scale the AP bonus based on the number of people in queue. Shortage in queue = bigger bonus.


    Edit:
    Wait, I might be stupid and missed that I could queue for normal matches as well.

    Edit 2: NVM still sent me to Chaos Ball.
    Edited by chessalavakia_ESO on October 18, 2022 1:37AM
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