Making friends

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn

Sometimes I wonder why it's worth it, yet I still go back for more...

Made friends with two new players... turns out they were a couple... great, no problem.

So I donate 1 million to each of them... and 3000 crowns to one who just HAD to be an Imperial.

Now I'm unfriended.

Thought I would have learned my lesson by now, but nope.

No more assistance. Am I really so gullible? Appparently so.

And no, I'm not giving anyone anything.

You try to be nice and help but I'm seriously sick of being a sucker.

Artim_X

Better to teach someone how to earn things than to freely give things to them. In this way they can appreciate the value of the things they earned.

This doesn't apply to crowns, which is bought with one's own hard earned IRL cash. To be honest, giving crown to players you just met is a step too far. Even the gold amount was quite excessive for new players who will not know what to do with that much gold.

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn

Artim_X wrote: »

Better to teach someone how to earn things than to freely give things to them. In this way they can appreciate the value of the things they earned.

This doesn't apply to crowns, which is bought with one's own hard earned IRL cash. To be honest, giving crown to players you just met is a step too far. Even the gold amount was quite excessive for new players who will not know what to do with that much gold.

Yep, I'm a sucker. But no more... I'm over it.

You try to be a good person and this is what you get... once too many times.

gariondavey

Knowledge is more valuable than giving gold or items. I will spend 5-10 minutes with a new player who begs for stuff and explain writs, hirlings, professions, research for gear and training for horses.
As for making friends...join a social guild. Friends are people who receive the gift of your company, not your pocketbook.
You don't need to buy people's affection. Just be a genuine person who listens and has fun with others. You'll be swimming in friends.

Snowy_Wyndra_Karn

gariondavey wrote: »

Knowledge is more valuable than giving gold or items. I will spend 5-10 minutes with a new player who begs for stuff and explain writs, hirlings, professions, research for gear and training for horses.
As for making friends...join a social guild. Friends are people who receive the gift of your company, not your pocketbook.
You don't need to buy people's affection. Just be a genuine person who listens and has fun with others. You'll be swimming in friends.

I give knowledge - I don't just throw gold at people.

I am a genuine person.

I've been playing for 7 years... of course I've been in social guilds. I don't do well in large groups due to my depression/anxiety. People are just inclined to take advantage - I'm sorry if this sounds negative but it's true.

Anyway, I'm no longer helping anyone.

This is just my way of venting my frustration. I won't make further comment, it just sucks.

DMuehlhausen

Yeah why would you give them that much. I've paid for some new players mounts, but that's it. Specially giving crowns...

Triplesixtyson

Just make friends with people that dont want anything but friendship as well. And remember, your online, its very hard to actually get to know someone. There are so many great people out there in eso, just take your time and dont jump in head first thinking youve made the best of friends. Dip your toes in the water and protect yourself from getting hurt. Im sorry this happened to you.

Lady_Galadhiel

You are just too generous.
I like helping new players, even giving them like 50k or 100k gold is ok, or some spear motifs/recipes and they are very thankful...at the beginning. Whenever they need help they will message you but you won't hear from them otherwise.
I know about it, I got a few of those on my friendlist.

WithMyLaserGun

delenn35 wrote: »

Artim_X wrote: »

Better to teach someone how to earn things than to freely give things to them. In this way they can appreciate the value of the things they earned.

This doesn't apply to crowns, which is bought with one's own hard earned IRL cash. To be honest, giving crown to players you just met is a step too far. Even the gold amount was quite excessive for new players who will not know what to do with that much gold.

Yep, I'm a sucker. But no more... I'm over it.

You try to be a good person and this is what you get... once too many times.

There is a big difference between "being a good person" and not setting healthy boundaries for yourself when it comes to giving stuff to people you barely know. Keep being a good person, but tone it down. Take several weeks to get to know people, give them small gifts if you feel the need to give gifts at all. People will like you for WHO you are, not what you give them.. if they are only liking you because you give them stuff then you're attracting entirely the wrong sort of people.

Don't give up, just tone it down

Danikat

I agree with everyone else. Showering someone with crowns or gold isn't a great way to make friends, it doesn't show any common interests (beyond playing ESO, but you already know you have that in common) or give much of an opportunity for conversation or playing together. It could also be very awkward for the recipient if they have no way to reciprocate.

If you want to make friends with other players it would be better to just chat to them, answer their questions and offer to help them complete activities. One of the best things someone did for me when I was new was took me through a dungeon and actually gave me time to complete the quest - reading, listening to the NPCs, not just clicking to close the boxes ASAP.

(And like giving gold it may be necessary to hold back from what you could do and settle for what they want or need. I've seen some people 'help' new players by blazing through everything so fast they barely get to see there was a boss they missed fighting, and that point it's not really fun for anyone.)

rootkitronin

I think part of the problem is that you're not giving the gift with no strings attached, you're expecting something in return.

I feel that if you're going to gift something to someone, it should be done without any expectations of any sort of return - I'm giving it because I want to give it, end of story.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's rude to not be appreciative or grateful when someone does something for you or gives you something (in most situations at least), but not everyone thinks the same way, and it's important to understand that too.

In the end, I'm choosing to do something because it's something I wanted to do for someone else. What they do with that, that's up to them.

SilverBride

This reminds me of a situation I found myself in with a guildie once, only he was the too generous one.

We were in the same Trade guild and he linked a nice furnishing pattern he had just found. I asked if he was going to sell it and we agreed on a price. In appreciation I made the first item as a gift to him and this was the beginning of a friendship.

The very next day we were talking and I mentioned I was considering a race change from Orc. I barely finished typing that and got a notice that he gifted me a race change token. This made me uncomfortable and I told him it was too much. He replied "You don't understand. I have trouble making friends."

This was only the first in a long string of gifts and every time I refused one I got a big "Sigh." I made it clear several times that I did not want gifts and he told me if I didn't let him give me things we weren't really friends because that is what friends do. So I walked away and we no longer speak.

The bottom line of this story is obvious... we can't buy friends. Also being a good person is not measured by how many things we give away.

Edit: I want to add that I really enjoyed his company and we had fun talking and running around together. If it hadn't been for his constant need to try to make me happy with things we could have had a great friendship.

Vulkunne

delenn35 wrote: »

Sometimes I wonder why it's worth it, yet I still go back for more...

Made friends with two new players... turns out they were a couple... great, no problem.

So I donate 1 million to each of them... and 3000 crowns to one who just HAD to be an Imperial.

Now I'm unfriended.

Thought I would have learned my lesson by now, but nope.

No more assistance. Am I really so gullible? Appparently so.

And no, I'm not giving anyone anything.

You try to be nice and help but I'm seriously sick of being a sucker.

Hey delenn35, first of all Good on You for being a cool person and trying to help people.

My suggestion is to -let them have it- for they have their reward. By rewarding your good with evil they have been given an opportunity to reveal the types of people that they are by their own action, regardless of what they might have said otherwise.

Move on and just take care of you first. But at the same time, please remember, that there are still good people in the game who genuinely need help and its always good to help out if you choose to.

Let them have their fluff but you have a nice day knowing that unlike others, you have demonstrated that you are -not- a greedy shade of a person and money does not dominate your life. Which is quite the compliment I believe.

SilverBride

@delenn35

I am curious. Did you offer these gifts or did they ask for them?

Carcamongus

In my experience, money has a way of poisoning relationships, so I try to keep the two as separated as possible, within reason. It appears, though, that the OP didn't really make two new friends, as a real friend wouldn't behave like that. I agree with what many people already said: go easy on the gifting, especially if it involves real money. You want people to like you for who you are, not what you have to give them. Good intentions are no excuse for not being prudent and with new people you always need to be cautious until they've earned your trust (and vice-versa).

RaikaNA

@delenn35 I would contact @ZOS_Kevin and file a report against those two players... they could very well be potential scammers.. scamming people of crown crates.

Vulkunne

Carcamongus wrote: »

In my experience, money has a way of poisoning relationships, so I try to keep the two as separated as possible, within reason. It appears, though, that the OP didn't really make two new friends, as a real friend wouldn't behave like that. I agree with what many people already said: go easy on the gifting, especially if it involves real money. You want people to like you for who you are, not what you have to give them. Good intentions are no excuse for not being prudent and with new people you always need to be cautious until they've earned your trust (and vice-versa).

So I agree with the general idea here, you are not wrong. The only thing I might add, to maybe add a little more perspective from my original post... Now you say that good intentions are no excuse for being prudent and people you know, people need to earn your trust, ok.

The only thing is this. There are some people I've met in the game who *sigh* I really feel its not my place to judge them. They are poor, I was once poor so I know how it feels to have nothing or you know, trying to get your start. I grew my economy originally off selling blue motifs however there was a certain person who helped many of us new players out with things we needed. He had no reason to trust us, we didn't know him and he knew our situation without expecting too much from us. So he would craft weapons/armor and give freely to new players, really went a long way towards inspiring us to greater things by giving us either samples or sometimes full sets. Was a real nice fella who expected nothing in return, his goal was to share of his abundance to help 'raise' many of us new players on the mean streets of Auridon.

I think @delenn35 what you should do, my suggestion, and after this I'll say no more, is decide why you gave to these folks. I am not playing role and I am no better than anyone else but in giving sometimes you have to understand that the person you're giving to may not be able to reward you back. And that's what you need to think about. If you gave to gain these players friendship and they you know, left you in the cold then yeah submit a ticket and have ZOS maybe pay you back or perhaps they can even get some of the wealth back.

If you gave out of the abundance of the heart then you don't need a reward from them. Its not their place to reward you as they are in no position to do so. However, you decide. I do think you should think about this further when you have the time to do so to help decide how you wish to handle further interactions with similar players as well as to ensure you fully understand your motivations for giving or trading, or whichever, which will help in the long run.

Thanks for listening and gl.

Carcamongus

Vulkunne wrote: »

Carcamongus wrote: »

In my experience, money has a way of poisoning relationships, so I try to keep the two as separated as possible, within reason. It appears, though, that the OP didn't really make two new friends, as a real friend wouldn't behave like that. I agree with what many people already said: go easy on the gifting, especially if it involves real money. You want people to like you for who you are, not what you have to give them. Good intentions are no excuse for not being prudent and with new people you always need to be cautious until they've earned your trust (and vice-versa).

So I agree with the general idea here, you're not wrong.

The only thing I might add, to maybe add a little perspective from my original post...

Now you say that good intentions are no excuse for being prudent and people you know, people need to earn your trust, ok.

The only thing is this. There are some people I've met in the game who *sigh* I really feel its not my place to judge them. They are poor, I was once poor so I know how it feels to have nothing or you know, trying to get your start. I grew my economy originally off selling blue motifs however there was a certain person who helped many of us new players out with things we needed. He had no reason to trust us, we didn't know him and he knew our situation without expecting too much from us. So he would craft weapons/armor and give freely to new players, really went a long way towards inspiring us to greater things by giving us either samples or sometimes full sets. Was a real nice fella who expected nothing in return, his goal was to share of his abundance to help 'raise' many of us new players on the mean streets of Auridon. (I recently retired from AD but anyways that's besides the point.)

I think @delenn35 what you should do, my suggestion, and after this I'll say no more, is decide why you gave to these folks. I am not playing role and I am no better than anyone else but in giving sometimes you have to understand that the person you're giving to may not be able to reward you back. And that's what you need to think about. If you gave to gain these players friendship and they you know, left you in the cold then yeah submit a ticket and have ZOS maybe pay you back or perhaps they can even get some of the wealth back.

If you gave out of the abundance of the heart then you don't need a reward from them. Its not their place to reward you as they are in no position to do so. Yet, it will come in time. I mean for example, *sigh* I know personally someone with like 300+ Million Gold ok. Now, he can certainly do what he wants with it and he earned it. But seriously what are you going to do with that much gold when there's so many people that you could, if you decide to, help who genuinely need the help. Personally, I have no idea what he plans to do with 300 Million gold but if hoarding gold means more than helping his guild and his friends then that to me is more a reflection on him and you say I need to earn this person's trust? We're calling him prudent for putting himself and his ego ahead of the community that helped him amass that wealth? Fam, I don't need anything from this guy. He has nothing to give me. No one wants to say this but the dude is really more of like a giant vacuum cleaner whose always surfing TTC flipping prices upwards. That's one reason everything in this game is so expensive is because of 'market players' like him. Though some might say the same about me, alot of people would be better off if he left the game. And no I'm not the only person who has mentioned this.

However, you decide. For my part I have no friends, lots of associates but my trust is not something anyone has yet been able to earn. And you should understand this as well that when you give to someone, you have no idea how that relationship is going to work out. I treat everyone with the same level of civility and respect and expect no less. Yet I don't expect everyone to agree with my views so you can do what you will. I do think you should think about this further when you have the time to do so to help decide how you wish to handle further interactions with similar players as well as to ensure you understand fully your motivations for giving or trading, or whichever, which will help in the long run.

Thanks for listening and gl.

I've helped people by sending them intricate items or crafting training gear. But I've also seen people who just want to leech from others. Prudence is to give yourself time to see if the one you're helping will still value you for who you are, not what you have. Prudence is to avoid opening yourself up too much before you know the other person well enough. Unfortunately, OP's experience was so negative they're hurt and considering no longer helping anyone. The point is that by being more patient and careful, it's possible to be helpful and make real friends.

SilverBride

RaikaNA wrote: »

@delenn35 I would contact @ZOS_Kevin and file a report against those two players... they could very well be potential scammers.. scamming people of crown crates.

This doesn't sound like a scam. These players took advantage of the OP's generosity but that doesn't violate any of the terms of service.

Vulkunne

Carcamongus wrote: »

Vulkunne wrote: »

Carcamongus wrote: »

In my experience, money has a way of poisoning relationships, so I try to keep the two as separated as possible, within reason. It appears, though, that the OP didn't really make two new friends, as a real friend wouldn't behave like that. I agree with what many people already said: go easy on the gifting, especially if it involves real money. You want people to like you for who you are, not what you have to give them. Good intentions are no excuse for not being prudent and with new people you always need to be cautious until they've earned your trust (and vice-versa).

So I agree with the general idea here, you're not wrong.

The only thing I might add, to maybe add a little perspective from my original post...

Now you say that good intentions are no excuse for being prudent and people you know, people need to earn your trust, ok.

The only thing is this. There are some people I've met in the game who *sigh* I really feel its not my place to judge them. They are poor, I was once poor so I know how it feels to have nothing or you know, trying to get your start. I grew my economy originally off selling blue motifs however there was a certain person who helped many of us new players out with things we needed. He had no reason to trust us, we didn't know him and he knew our situation without expecting too much from us. So he would craft weapons/armor and give freely to new players, really went a long way towards inspiring us to greater things by giving us either samples or sometimes full sets. Was a real nice fella who expected nothing in return, his goal was to share of his abundance to help 'raise' many of us new players on the mean streets of Auridon. (I recently retired from AD but anyways that's besides the point.)

I think @delenn35 what you should do, my suggestion, and after this I'll say no more, is decide why you gave to these folks. I am not playing role and I am no better than anyone else but in giving sometimes you have to understand that the person you're giving to may not be able to reward you back. And that's what you need to think about. If you gave to gain these players friendship and they you know, left you in the cold then yeah submit a ticket and have ZOS maybe pay you back or perhaps they can even get some of the wealth back.

If you gave out of the abundance of the heart then you don't need a reward from them. Its not their place to reward you as they are in no position to do so. Yet, it will come in time. I mean for example, *sigh* I know personally someone with like 300+ Million Gold ok. Now, he can certainly do what he wants with it and he earned it. But seriously what are you going to do with that much gold when there's so many people that you could, if you decide to, help who genuinely need the help. Personally, I have no idea what he plans to do with 300 Million gold but if hoarding gold means more than helping his guild and his friends then that to me is more a reflection on him and you say I need to earn this person's trust? We're calling him prudent for putting himself and his ego ahead of the community that helped him amass that wealth? Fam, I don't need anything from this guy. He has nothing to give me. No one wants to say this but the dude is really more of like a giant vacuum cleaner whose always surfing TTC flipping prices upwards. That's one reason everything in this game is so expensive is because of 'market players' like him. Though some might say the same about me, alot of people would be better off if he left the game. And no I'm not the only person who has mentioned this.

However, you decide. For my part I have no friends, lots of associates but my trust is not something anyone has yet been able to earn. And you should understand this as well that when you give to someone, you have no idea how that relationship is going to work out. I treat everyone with the same level of civility and respect and expect no less. Yet I don't expect everyone to agree with my views so you can do what you will. I do think you should think about this further when you have the time to do so to help decide how you wish to handle further interactions with similar players as well as to ensure you understand fully your motivations for giving or trading, or whichever, which will help in the long run.

Thanks for listening and gl.

I've helped people by sending them intricate items or crafting training gear. But I've also seen people who just want to leech from others. Prudence is to give yourself time to see if the one you're helping will still value you for who you are, not what you have. Prudence is to avoid opening yourself up too much before you know the other person well enough. Unfortunately, OP's experience was so negative they're hurt and considering no longer helping anyone. The point is that by being more patient and careful, it's possible to be helpful and make real friends.

Alright that sounds good, no problem. My only thing is if I decide to give to someone its because I'm providing what they need regardless of who they are. You mention leeching, ok yeah some folks will do that. But even if they are leeching, chances are good at some point its still not going to be enough right. You know like pan handlers on the side of the road. I can give them something, maybe they have a job too or what have you, but at some point pan handling alone or otherwise leeching is not going to cover them forever.

Again you are not wrong. But rain falls on good and bad people much the same way. Its my place to help provide its not my place to judge. And that is why I either give or don't. Even if they're leeching maybe they doing it because they can't provide for themselves at that moment. Perhaps things will change later.

Hah I dunno I've been every role here. I've been poor, I've been a leech, I've been well off, ultra rich even, I've seen it all and end of the day people in need are people too. You know I just see them as people in need and its up to them to work hard and to make the most of things. I mean I've been a leech before. Not for long typically but it happens. Which is one reason I try to give something meaningful back. Sometimes people have it hard and depending on the situation they deal with things their own way I guess.

Nestor

I help in small ways, answer a question, toss some mats to someone who asks, craft an item, help with a Boss etc.

I will show people how to earn gold instead of giving it to them. Gifting Crowns? Only my RW Wife gets my hard earned bucks. And she does not play this game...

SpiritKitten

Nestor wrote: »

I help in small ways, answer a question, toss some mats to someone who asks, craft an item, help with a Boss etc.

I will show people how to earn gold instead of giving it to them. Gifting Crowns? Only my RW Wife gets my hard earned bucks. And she does not play this game...

I am exactly the same!

Carcamongus

Vulkunne wrote: »

Carcamongus wrote: »

Vulkunne wrote: »

Carcamongus wrote: »

In my experience, money has a way of poisoning relationships, so I try to keep the two as separated as possible, within reason. It appears, though, that the OP didn't really make two new friends, as a real friend wouldn't behave like that. I agree with what many people already said: go easy on the gifting, especially if it involves real money. You want people to like you for who you are, not what you have to give them. Good intentions are no excuse for not being prudent and with new people you always need to be cautious until they've earned your trust (and vice-versa).

So I agree with the general idea here, you're not wrong.

The only thing I might add, to maybe add a little perspective from my original post...

Now you say that good intentions are no excuse for being prudent and people you know, people need to earn your trust, ok.

The only thing is this. There are some people I've met in the game who *sigh* I really feel its not my place to judge them. They are poor, I was once poor so I know how it feels to have nothing or you know, trying to get your start. I grew my economy originally off selling blue motifs however there was a certain person who helped many of us new players out with things we needed. He had no reason to trust us, we didn't know him and he knew our situation without expecting too much from us. So he would craft weapons/armor and give freely to new players, really went a long way towards inspiring us to greater things by giving us either samples or sometimes full sets. Was a real nice fella who expected nothing in return, his goal was to share of his abundance to help 'raise' many of us new players on the mean streets of Auridon. (I recently retired from AD but anyways that's besides the point.)

I think @delenn35 what you should do, my suggestion, and after this I'll say no more, is decide why you gave to these folks. I am not playing role and I am no better than anyone else but in giving sometimes you have to understand that the person you're giving to may not be able to reward you back. And that's what you need to think about. If you gave to gain these players friendship and they you know, left you in the cold then yeah submit a ticket and have ZOS maybe pay you back or perhaps they can even get some of the wealth back.

If you gave out of the abundance of the heart then you don't need a reward from them. Its not their place to reward you as they are in no position to do so. Yet, it will come in time. I mean for example, *sigh* I know personally someone with like 300+ Million Gold ok. Now, he can certainly do what he wants with it and he earned it. But seriously what are you going to do with that much gold when there's so many people that you could, if you decide to, help who genuinely need the help. Personally, I have no idea what he plans to do with 300 Million gold but if hoarding gold means more than helping his guild and his friends then that to me is more a reflection on him and you say I need to earn this person's trust? We're calling him prudent for putting himself and his ego ahead of the community that helped him amass that wealth? Fam, I don't need anything from this guy. He has nothing to give me. No one wants to say this but the dude is really more of like a giant vacuum cleaner whose always surfing TTC flipping prices upwards. That's one reason everything in this game is so expensive is because of 'market players' like him. Though some might say the same about me, alot of people would be better off if he left the game. And no I'm not the only person who has mentioned this.

However, you decide. For my part I have no friends, lots of associates but my trust is not something anyone has yet been able to earn. And you should understand this as well that when you give to someone, you have no idea how that relationship is going to work out. I treat everyone with the same level of civility and respect and expect no less. Yet I don't expect everyone to agree with my views so you can do what you will. I do think you should think about this further when you have the time to do so to help decide how you wish to handle further interactions with similar players as well as to ensure you understand fully your motivations for giving or trading, or whichever, which will help in the long run.

Thanks for listening and gl.

I've helped people by sending them intricate items or crafting training gear. But I've also seen people who just want to leech from others. Prudence is to give yourself time to see if the one you're helping will still value you for who you are, not what you have. Prudence is to avoid opening yourself up too much before you know the other person well enough. Unfortunately, OP's experience was so negative they're hurt and considering no longer helping anyone. The point is that by being more patient and careful, it's possible to be helpful and make real friends.

Alright that sounds good, no problem. My only thing is if I decide to give to someone its because I'm providing what they need regardless of who they are. You mention leeching, ok yeah some folks will do that. But even if they are leeching, chances are good at some point its still not going to be enough right. You know like pan handlers on the side of the road. I can give them something, maybe they have a job too or what have you, but at some point pan handling alone or otherwise leeching is not going to cover them forever.

Again you are not wrong. But rain falls on good and bad people much the same way. Its my place to help provide its not my place to judge. And that is why I either give or don't. Even if they're leeching maybe they doing it because they can't provide for themselves at that moment. Perhaps things will change later.

Hah I dunno I've been every role here. I've been poor, I've been a leech, I've been well off, ultra rich even, I've seen it all and end of the day people in need are people too. You know I just see them as people in need and its up to them to work hard and to make the most of things. I mean I've been a leech before. Not for long typically but it happens. Which is one reason I try to give something meaningful back. Sometimes people have it hard and depending on the situation they deal with things their own way I guess.

We're not disagreeing much, but I think I should clarify what I meant by "leech". A leech wants instant gratification instead of actually working for what they want and they don't care about the person helping them. An example: many months ago someone in a guild asked for gold. Several people offered advice on how to easily earn it, and the sum wasn't even that high. The reaction? The person started insulting those who tried to help and kept doing so in whispers even after being kicked. Your posts seem to indicate you have too much of a conscience to actually be a leech.

RaikaNA

SilverBride wrote: »

RaikaNA wrote: »

@delenn35 I would contact @ZOS_Kevin and file a report against those two players... they could very well be potential scammers.. scamming people of crown crates.

This doesn't sound like a scam. These players took advantage of the OP's generosity but that doesn't violate any of the terms of service.

They could be doing this to other players.

The definition of a scam is this: a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation.

It sounds like a scam to me... deceiving someone into believing that they're friends just to cash in on the rewards (gifts), and then ghosting them after the gift was exchanged is a scam. ZOS needs to be let know of these two players' behavior so that nobody else can become a victim of their scheme.

SilverBride

RaikaNA wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

RaikaNA wrote: »

@delenn35 I would contact @ZOS_Kevin and file a report against those two players... they could very well be potential scammers.. scamming people of crown crates.

This doesn't sound like a scam. These players took advantage of the OP's generosity but that doesn't violate any of the terms of service.

They could be doing this to other players.

The definition of a scam is this: a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation.

It sounds like a scam to me... deceiving someone into believing that they're friends just to cash in on the rewards (gifts), and then ghosting them after the gift was exchanged is a scam. ZOS needs to be let know of these two players' behavior so that nobody else can become a victim of their scheme.

The OP hasn't clarified if they came to him and asked for these things or if he offered. The things he said in his original post indicated that he has been generous and had it backfire on him other times also.

Living_Tribunal

Meh I don't play this game to make

RaikaNA wrote: »

@delenn35 I would contact @ZOS_Kevin and file a report against those two players... they could very well be potential scammers.. scamming people of crown crates.

Lol what??? This fellow wasnt being scammed. They freely gave their stuff away. They should have used some wisdom in giving those crowns away. Stop trying to make this person the victim. Smh

SammyKhajit

OP you are a good person.

Unscrupulous people who take advantage of others always get their comeuppance. Always.

francesinhalover

delenn35 wrote: »

Sometimes I wonder why it's worth it, yet I still go back for more...

Made friends with two new players... turns out they were a couple... great, no problem.

So I donate 1 million to each of them... and 3000 crowns to one who just HAD to be an Imperial.

Now I'm unfriended.

Thought I would have learned my lesson by now, but nope.

No more assistance. Am I really so gullible? Appparently so.

And no, I'm not giving anyone anything.

You try to be nice and help but I'm seriously sick of being a sucker.

gad damn bruh, i can be your friend, i have no friends in real life!

pc eu @FluffyPallasCat

-jokes aside, Wait untill you know ppl for a bit longer before wasting crowns.

Like holly molly, how do ppl find friends that donate this insane ammounts of crowns and stop being friends? No love for kindness i guess, i have been unemployed for years so i value any kindness, but even has a kid i valued a lot, maybe i'm just diff idk, but it's weird for me how someone can take stuff for granted like this.

Just understand has a adult it's hard to make friends, people are too focused on their lifes and themselves to care about friendships unfurtunaly.
And if you plan on having friends, test them. try talking about some of your problems, if they don't care or run away it ain't worth it.
Pointless to waste time with people who have no empathy for others, ya know what i mean?

Granted i can't give much advice because again i have no friends, haven't had friends for years now.

SilverBride

francesinhalover wrote: »

Wait untill you know ppl for a bit longer before wasting crowns.

I would take that a step further and say don't be giving anyone crowns. No real friend would expect that and it may make them uncomfortable to be seen as someone who can be bought.

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Snowy_Wyndra_Karn

I just wanted to thank everyone for their messages and input.

I also wanted to clarify that it's not the gold or the crowns (ok, maybe the crowns a little but I never give crowns if there is something I want - I always put myself first this way). Gold is gold though, right? If you've been playing a while (and I've been playing for 7 years), gold is not hard to come by. I remember when I started out and I had nothing. In those early days, gosh I stole and stole day after day until I no longer had to. But yeah, gold is nothing really to a long-term player. On top of this, I like to help people - it's just who I am.

I wasn't scammed, but thank you to the person who suggested I was. It made me feel like maybe I was not at fault here but at the end of the day, it was my fault entirely; I freely offered up these items.

I guess the thing that gets me most is that I was just ghosted. I really didn't expect their friendship - in fact, it was me who was a little on the wary side due to past experiences. They were/seemed very eager, especially one of them. I wanted to hold back a little considering they were a couple. Then nothing. That's what stings. I would have hoped for something along the lines of... appreciate your help and all the best. I have given many times before to other players and expected nothing. Giving is not expecting anything in return... maybe a little bit of decency? Is that wrong? I am desperate but not desperate enough that I think... I'll give this person something and then they will be my friend - PLEASE BE MY FRIEND!!!

I am ok and just needed to vent at the time, but thank you for being supportive and not shooting me down. That means the world.