Mele magplar

Syiccal

Been away awhile, reading u35 notes and comments here, is the mele magplar really dead in the water. How bad in reality is sweeps.
I hear range plar decent to play but in that case I'd just play sorc?

Neloth

Ranged plar > magsorc

Radiant destruction is overbuffed this patch, defenses are better, mobility is covered by mist form (at least for BGs)

gariondavey

20 percent more damage scaling on something already 480 percent damage scaling isn't what I would qualify as "overbuffed"

Firstmep

Yeah ranged templar just has a far better toolkit. All the good templar skills are ranged now, bar maybe crescent sweep.

Javelin, backlash radiant are all ranged, and work really well together.

Melee magplar is kinda eh atm. Melee stamplar is mostly fine tho.

Amerises

Staves leave much to be desired.
Only thing that differentiates a mag vs stamplar is what resource you want to invest most in 🤷🏻‍♂️

Syiccal

Considering either ranged plar or mele using the vamp spammable

Aces-High-82

Bow/Bow Sorc is decent as well (would dodge a classic Magsorc like a plague atm).

FirmamentOfStars

I just posted in the following thread:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/615702/jab-puncturing-sweep-is-useless-in-pvp-because-of-snare-duration-nerf-damage-nerf#latest
Very short summary: Meleeplar is better in OW PvP, meanwhile rangedplar is some zerging or 1v1 gimmick. Also jabs are by far not dead, since I hit easely 3-4k jabs ticks.

gariondavey

Firstmep wrote: »

Yeah ranged templar just has a far better toolkit. All the good templar skills are ranged now, bar maybe crescent sweep.

Javelin, backlash radiant are all ranged, and work really well together.

Melee magplar is kinda eh atm. Melee stamplar is mostly fine tho.

Not sure why melee stamplar would be mostly fine but melee magplar would be kinda eh.
Unless you have a dk with you, all templars are forced to run spell damage instead of weapon damage. Otherwise you lose 10 percent damage.
So all templars use purifying light.
All templars use extended ritual, honor the dead, rune. Most templars would run resolving vigor. Too good to not run it.
All templars are pretty much hybrid.
If you use dw + 2h you can call yourself a stamplar if you like but unless you are specced into weapon damage, use power of the light, and run only stam heals, you are essentially just a hybrid templar.
Melee templar is ok. You need to run very high damage and hope your target doesn't have major evasion + mara's balm.

Rhaegar75

I’m planning on the following:

Front bar Deadly to boost jabs and the beam

Engine guardian monster set to get regen and mitigation

Mythic: Markyn or serpent

Back bar?!?!?! What would you suggest? I’m really not sure

Syiccal

So currently I'm using
2 x balorgs
5 wretched vitality
5 rallying cry
Markyn ring
2 swift 1 I fused
5L/1/1
Apprentice mundus

All tri glyphs

I have around 6k dmg 20k pen (balorgs at 200)
1200 mag 1100 stam regen with wretched

29k mag
30k hp
20k stam

32k spell resists 26k physical
3300 crit resistance

TechMaybeHic

gariondavey wrote: »

Firstmep wrote: »

Yeah ranged templar just has a far better toolkit. All the good templar skills are ranged now, bar maybe crescent sweep.

Javelin, backlash radiant are all ranged, and work really well together.

Melee magplar is kinda eh atm. Melee stamplar is mostly fine tho.

Not sure why melee stamplar would be mostly fine but melee magplar would be kinda eh.
Unless you have a dk with you, all templars are forced to run spell damage instead of weapon damage. Otherwise you lose 10 percent damage.
So all templars use purifying light.
All templars use extended ritual, honor the dead, rune. Most templars would run resolving vigor. Too good to not run it.
All templars are pretty much hybrid.
If you use dw + 2h you can call yourself a stamplar if you like but unless you are specced into weapon damage, use power of the light, and run only stam heals, you are essentially just a hybrid templar.
Melee templar is ok. You need to run very high damage and hope your target doesn't have major evasion + mara's balm.

It's pretty much whatever resource pool you lean into. Think everything now has both weapon and spell damage. Only thing that doesn't is glyphs and mundus. I guess Pots if you use that but someone sayings "melee" stamplar is probably not

Metemsycosis

I feel like rallying cry is the answer here.

WaywardArgonian

It's not impossible to play but just feels way underwhelming now. Rangeplar is good but not something I would want to play in open world. For open world Templar DD I respecced to Stamplar and while I run into some of the same problems that melee Magplar has, I find it fun enough to play until they kill the next Templar skill.

Syiccal

At the moment I have respecd into stam hybrid and it works well, definitely has more dmg than mag hybrid however I do feel mag has the survivability advantage due to having all stam for kiting , dodging and blocking