Maintenance for the week of December 16:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – December 16
• NA megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
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• PC/Mac: No maintenance – December 16
• NA megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
• EU megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 17:00 UTC (12:00PM EST)
Why should I renew ESO plus
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Sarannah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Game is awesome, and problems can happen. The current maintenance is emergency maintenance to fix what got broken in today's patch.
Patching live MMO servers is kind of like performing surgery on an unsedated animal, you never know what might happen or what they might do. That is how I always look at it.8 -
Syndem✭✭✭I didn t renew. (my friends either)
High end was and will be just fine, they will find the way to stay at the top. The rest of us ... Well ... Try to be happy with our low dps... Yeah, right !! (maybe someday ZOS will understand this)
Mara's fix ...Didn t fix anything ... Sooo ...
Not renewing until they fix this mess, so ... Never.16 -
JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭If you aren't happy with the game, don't renew. It isn't a "life's imponderable mystery" type of thing.
Just remember all your mats will be pulled from your craft bag first, you won't be able to bank anything except gold if you're over the regular non-plus banking limit, and you won't be able to put anything in your houses if you're over the standard housing item limit.4 -
Pyvos✭✭✭✭you never know what might happen or what they might do. That is how I always look at it.
The game has been in live service for over 8 years and this is by all accounts a pretty minor patch. There really shouldn't be this degree of regression at this point.
But yes, you are right. Stuff can happen and I don't think it is rational to cancel ESO+ just because of this specific maintenance window (it's been much worse in the past). Cancelling over all the other issues? Depends on if they impact you, up to your own judgement as a customer (it is your money, after all), etc.2 -
Battle_Hymn✭✭✭you never know what might happen or what they might do. That is how I always look at it.
The game has been in live service for over 8 years and this is by all accounts a pretty minor patch. There really shouldn't be this degree of regression at this point.
But yes, you are right. Stuff can happen and I don't think it is rational to cancel ESO+ just because of this specific maintenance window (it's been much worse in the past). Cancelling over all the other issues? Depends on if they impact you, up to your own judgement as a customer (it is your money, after all), etc.
Not renewing is perfectly rational. If they don't listen to players feedback regarding broken sets, unbalanced classes, and everything else that is wrong with the game, then maybe they will start paying attention when their revenue starts taking a hit.
The only thing Corporations are interested is money, and if Zos is going to keep HA it on ESO then their not going to see another bean from me.
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Ardriel✭✭✭✭If you aren't happy with the game, don't renew. It isn't a "life's imponderable mystery" type of thing.
Just remember all your mats will be pulled from your craft bag first, you won't be able to bank anything except gold if you're over the regular non-plus banking limit, and you won't be able to put anything in your houses if you're over the standard housing item limit.
That's not correct, mats will remain in the craft bag but you just won't be able to store more.3 -
ApoAlaia✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I find easier to understand (and relate to) the current predicament than to having routine maintenance downtime.
The latter is a relic of the previous century that should have been long banished.
The former, well, despite our best efforts it does happen. In fairness I cannot hold them to a higher standard than I hold myself.0 -
AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Keeping ESO+ is an easy call for me. I only play one game at a time (currently ESO), and I play it a lot. So that translates to a very good value for me. If I played multiple games or played ESO only sporadically, my decision might well be different.
If and when I can find another game I like better than ESO, I'll transition to said game and totally stop playing ESO (and obviously unsubscribe). So it is kind of an all or none thing for me.
Always scanning for a better game. For me that would be an open world medieval fantasy RPG that has all the mass and scale that ESO has, with equally beautiful graphics but single player to avoid the never ending circuitous and fruitless nerfbalance cycle that seems endemic to multiplayer (ESO is the only multiplayer game I've played; it is a drawback I live with due the game's other positive features).PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo13 -
Pyvos✭✭✭✭Battle_Hymn wrote: »Not renewing is perfectly rational. If they don't listen to players feedback regarding broken sets, unbalanced classes, and everything else that is wrong with the game, then maybe they will start paying attention when their revenue starts taking a hit.
Clearly you did not bother to read what I actually wrote. The irrational part would be cancelling over the maintenance window, the rest is up to the individual (not everyone is equally impacted by U35). So no, cancelling a sub is not always going to be rational. Cancelling over temporary server issues isn't rational. If you are impacted by U35, then it is your choice to make on whether or not to cancel. The only person that can say whether you should cancel is yourself, so there is not really much to gain from these forum posts in general.0 -
ForumBully✭✭✭✭✭
✭If you don't feel like you're getting value for the cost, don't. I used to play every night, but the recent state of the game has me down to a couple hours a week...no reason to sub for me.Edited by ForumBully on September 7, 2022 2:56PM9 -
Battle_Hymn✭✭✭Battle_Hymn wrote: »Not renewing is perfectly rational. If they don't listen to players feedback regarding broken sets, unbalanced classes, and everything else that is wrong with the game, then maybe they will start paying attention when their revenue starts taking a hit.
Clearly you did not bother to read what I actually wrote. The irrational part would be cancelling over the maintenance window, the rest is up to the individual (not everyone is equally impacted by U35). So no, cancelling a sub is not always going to be rational. Cancelling over temporary server issues isn't rational. If you are impacted by U35, then it is your choice to make on whether or not to cancel. The only person that can say whether you should cancel is yourself, so there is not really much to gain from these forum posts in general.
I did read clearly what you wrote. The constant extra maintenance windows that plague ESO is unlike anything I have witnessed over many MMO'S. Why is it Zos are unable to perform a simple maintenance once a week, that doesn't break their game while CCP (Eve online) can perform daily maintenance of an hour and I can't remember the last time when they had to extend it? For me, this is another reason for me to withhold my money, because it reeks of amateurismEdited by Battle_Hymn on September 7, 2022 3:45PM3 -
Artim_X✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dat phat craft bag full of goodies!
(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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zharkovian✭✭✭✭I doubt if most people who have ESO+ would cancel their sub over a maintenance issue. More likely players would cancel as purse strings are tight, or the game has become old and repetitive, but not over a little maintenance interuption.2
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JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭If you aren't happy with the game, don't renew. It isn't a "life's imponderable mystery" type of thing.
Just remember all your mats will be pulled from your craft bag first, you won't be able to bank anything except gold if you're over the regular non-plus banking limit, and you won't be able to put anything in your houses if you're over the standard housing item limit.
That's not correct, mats will remain in the craft bag but you just won't be able to store more.
I didn't say they wouldn't stay. I said the game will pull mats from your craftbag *first*. Any mats in your craftbag will stay there until used, but the game won't pull mats from your inventory or bank until the craftbag is empty of the mats you're using. Likewise all the items in your bank will stay there but if you are over the normal bank limit, you won't be able to bank any more items until you drop below the ESO+ bank limit.
People complained about the "craftbag first" thing after they dropped + before. Didn't seem to understand they weren't paying for the craftbag anymore so that space was locked. They could still get their mats and bank items. ZOS didn't make all the craftbag, double bank space, and additional housing spaces just go "Poof" and delete all the stuff the instant + is dropped.Edited by JKorr on September 7, 2022 4:37PM5 -
purple-magicb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭1 day left and the game is broken.
A common sentiment that is jokingly responded to with, "infinite craft bag" or something else that doesn't address bugs or loss of game time (the real issues). Those that continue their sub solely on the basis that they get the craft bag will only get resentful in the long term because they will get no satisfaction from that. I'm on the fence with this myself.
I get that you're not saying it's a crappy game necessarily, just wondering if it's worth it to pay for this and that's more than fair to ask. It is getting expensive. I feel you bro.Edited by purple-magicb16_ESO on September 7, 2022 4:33PMI don't comment here often but when I do, I get [snip]1 -
Harry_Toes✭✭✭Everyone votes with their wallet - whether you renew or not, it's a vote.
I will renew my sub comes up. I'm still happily plugging away as a casual player. For me, the alternatives to ESO out there are lacking.
That's not to say I couldn't be tempted away. I'm still waiting for a good LoTR or DnD game to try out. The existing options for those franchises are not ESO-worthy alternatives.1 -
Lady_Galadhiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭My ESO plus did run out today, glad I DID NOT renew it.
It is simple; if you keep on playing/planning to do so, renew it for max 3 months, not longer.
If you plan on taking a break, don't renew it.Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
ESO plus status: Cancelled
ESO currently uninstalled.4 -
Einar_Hrafnarsson✭✭✭✭To answer your question: You should only if you play a lot. If you only play every now and then it is not worth it. If you do not craft it is even less worth it.
[SNIP] Conspiracy Theories and Misinformation / Trolling or BaitingEdited by ZOS_Suserial on September 7, 2022 6:02PM1 -
Roztlin45✭✭✭✭✭3 things that ESO can not sell are fun, relaxation, and enjoyment. They have to create it in the entertainment they provide. This in turn makes them money and satisfies the end user. When you can no longer find any of the 3 things listed above it is time to move on. Otherwise, neither you nor them will achieve satisfaction.0 -
freespirit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I will cancel my plus when and ONLY when I decide to stop playing ESO.
That is my decision and is decided by how I play the game.
You have to make your decision based on your experience and your playstyle. 💕When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!3 -
ixthUA✭✭✭✭✭Playing since 2017 without ESO+. Maxed craft, 3 armory setups, after cleaning bag i have 150+ free slots, still have some space in bank.2
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Sarannah✭✭✭✭✭
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They could probably get more money from veteran players for many more inven/bank expansions, than they would get from new players buying the basic inven/bank expansions. I'd buy the packrat and donkey 20+ times each, if they all gave +5 accountwide inven slots each.Einar_Hrafnarsson wrote: »Always sad to see how many people do not understand that the inventory and storage possibillities are as bad as they are to lure people to ESO+. It is designed that way. They create a problem and sell you the solution.Edited by Sarannah on September 7, 2022 5:45PM1 -
SpiderCultist✭✭✭✭✭I'm neweing mine because the craft bag is simply awesome, even though I do merely PvP.PC | EU
Ashlander and Mephala worshipper.
"You are just another breed of domestic animal, grazing stupidly while higher beings plot your slaughter."1
