Captain Helane (Spoilers)

ShinChuck

How did YOU handle things?

The_Drexill

Let her die like a dog.

habbahen

let her live

Joziah

I showed compassion and let her live.

CelticMarauder

I let her die because that was the lesser evil in my opinion. Showing compassion to her and letting her live basically dooms countless more sailors (and whoever else happens to get in her way) to death and torture at her hands. I wish (and I provided feedback during beta stating as much) that there was a third option: kill her instantly. It prevents her from inflicting further suffering, while avoiding sinking to her level to do so.

Kroin

She is a evil women, so i let her die.

ShinChuck

CelticMarauder wrote: »

I let her die because that was the lesser evil in my opinion. Showing compassion to her and letting her live basically dooms countless more sailors (and whoever else happens to get in her way) to death and torture at her hands. I wish (and I provided feedback during beta stating as much) that there was a third option: kill her instantly. It prevents her from inflicting further suffering, while avoiding sinking to her level to do so.

My wife went the opposite, but said the same thing. She spared her grudgingly because she didn't want to leave her to die in a brutal fashion, but then said she wished she could have just driven a sword through her instead.

Lerisa notes, "I hope the next crew she shipwrecks and murders appreciates your soft heart."

I wonder if Bethesda kept that option out just to make the decision harder?

ManiacMcLaughton

All of the "This choice or that" choices you see in this game are HARD because they are one or the other... they leave out the middle road and make you decide. The Baelborn quest line is the same.... neither choice is right... you have to decide which one is least distasteful.

snaekolf

Totally let her die. Didn't feel bad at all. As said before, she was evil.

Svann

I let her live out of self interest. It may turn out she has value down the road.

CelticMarauder

ManiacMcLaughton wrote: »

All of the "This choice or that" choices you see in this game are HARD because they are one or the other... they leave out the middle road and make you decide. The Baelborn quest line is the same.... neither choice is right... you have to decide which one is least distasteful.

Yup, I figured that's what they're going for, and this feature in general is one of my favorite aspects of the game. Captain Helane's situation, however, seems less realistic than most others I've encountered. The sane, logical option is removed in order to artificially limit you to two unsavory choices. It slightly decreases immersion, in my opinion. The choices in the Baelborne quest and at the end of Betnikh (sp?) both seemed to me to be far less arbitrary than this one.

CelticMarauder

For the record, though, I would make the exact same choice if I went through this quest again. She's way too dangerous to be left alive.

ShinChuck

CelticMarauder wrote: »

ManiacMcLaughton wrote: »

All of the "This choice or that" choices you see in this game are HARD because they are one or the other... they leave out the middle road and make you decide. The Baelborn quest line is the same.... neither choice is right... you have to decide which one is least distasteful.

Yup, I figured that's what they're going for, and this feature in general is one of my favorite aspects of the game. Captain Helane's situation, however, seems less realistic than most others I've encountered. The sane, logical option is removed in order to artificially limit you to two unsavory choices. It slightly decreases immersion, in my opinion.

I'm with ya. Why can't we just put her out of her misery? That's the simplest, and a completely reasonable choice, not to mention other potential options (say, arresting her, over just letting her go free!).

Sihnfahl

There are multiple options available, but, yes, you're shoehorned into two, just for ease of programming. Limits the responses from NPCs.

ShinChuck

Sihnfahl wrote: »

There are multiple options available, but, yes, you're shoehorned into two, just for ease of programming. Limits the responses from NPCs.

With all the multi-threaded options in the game for far lesser situations, though, there's really no excuse here, particularly when the choices are so contrived.

driosketch

I let her live for my character's RP purposes.

ManiacMcLaughton wrote: »

All of the "This choice or that" choices you see in this game are HARD because they are one or the other... they leave out the middle road and make you decide. The Baelborn quest line is the same.... neither choice is right... you have to decide which one is least distasteful.

I whole heartedly disagree on Baelborn. I see one of those outcomes as tragic, and the other cautiously optimistic. The thing is, the game doesn't let you easily tell which is which. If you're not familiar with, in my opinion, the better outcome, you might feel satisfied with the other conclusion.

Several of these choices are going to feel like a wash, and they are. Others have an outcome that some may feel ideal, and can even effect what NPCs you see later on.

Traisa

Let her die. She didn't give any mercy to those she was torturing.

Rytfield

Let her die, no shame.

warbaby2

Yup, let her die, since my char is kind of a free spirit with her own moral code... she deserved what she got.

foxsyd

I let her die. And glad I did, talking to one of the sailers that I rescued later, he told me at least he still has one good hand to hold his mug

Don't forget, she was torturing her captives .

Bunzinator

No antidote for her! Mind you, Lerissa's choice of weapon was arguably as 'evil' as Helane her self.

MistryssNite

In the beta, I let her live, mainly because I didn't read through all the dialogue about her evilness. And, I was more forgiving. But, yesterday, I decided she should suffer. She is pure evil and would surly kill and torture again. Plus, she would come after my new friends for revenge, and perhaps even me.

rawne1980b16_ESO

Let her die.

There was going to be vomit and i'd just made some shiny new shoes so I got out the door as quick as I could.

Ravinsild

"Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment."

In addition

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

I take this to heart and try to live this way, even in a video game. Always choose mercy, my friends. It conditions your heart for the future.

There is always room for redemption in others, who knows, maybe the mercy will effect her heart and she will go on to save others and be a kinder, better person?

rawne1980b16_ESO

Ravinsild wrote: »

There is always room for redemption in others, who knows, maybe the mercy will effect her heart and she will go on to save others and be a kinder, better person?

I still say let her die.

Two things could happen. She sees the error of her ways and goes on to give free hugs to all she meets or nothing changes and you end up responsible for the deaths of countless sailors ... on top of the deaths of the countless people you'll slaughter throughout your ESO life.

Safer bet to let her thrash around in agony until she kicks the bucket.

Thybrinena

Let her die then corpsejumped her until I got kicked to loading screen for pushing the same button too many times.

Ariane

I was thinking:

"I'm going to let her live, so she can think of what she's done. Hmmm, where's the antidote? Oh, here. Ok, I'll take it. Hmmm, where's the captain? There's too many people here, I can't see her. Maybe she's outside..."

I crossed the door to find her and then a message poped up: "You let Captain Helene die, talk to Larissa" or something like that.

So, I guess I "chose" to let her die >.<

driosketch

Beagle wrote: »

I let her live. In fact, I am letting everyone live and show them compassion. Until I got to some quest in a place full of orcs that had me torture and interrogate prisoners and even execute them. Not really sure what that was all about but I didn't even read the dialogue and try to get them to tell me the truth, I had them all executed.

You... you could have just threatened the queen that you would hurt her daughter if she didn't give the secret up. You didn't have to kill anyone. (I think the same thing works going the other way with the daughter.)

ShinChuck

Ravinsild wrote: »

"Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment."

In addition

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

I take this to heart and try to live this way, even in a video game. Always choose mercy, my friends. It conditions your heart for the future.

There is always room for redemption in others, who knows, maybe the mercy will effect her heart and she will go on to save others and be a kinder, better person?

I tend to lean this way!

I know a lot of people wanted to be able to finish her off instead of a slow, painful death, but in that case, I still may have spared her. It would have been nice, a pleasant medium if, since she was already defeated, we could just arrest her or something!

Cydramech

As a Chaotic Good/Neutral person myself, I took the antidote and played a random dice game. She died, and I was hoping for additional dialog after letting her die by taking the antidote.

driosketch

If it's any consolation, that was just s vision of the past. You didn't really change any events and those people died long ago in the story.