A Growing List of all New Major Combat Bugs in Update 35 [NOT INCLUDING TOOLTIP BUGS]

zbzszzzt123

This post is by no means a comment, critcism or complaint regarding ZOS's competence

This is a growing list of all major combat-related bugs (too many tooltip bugs to put in here) that I have seen since update 35 launched. Please feel free to contribute to this:

1. Maelstrom Destruction Staves not applying increased damage when switched to the other bar (Inconsistent behaviour with every other piece of arena weapons), making it useless in PvE builds at the moment.

Proof (Courtesy of @zvavi from ESO-U)



2. Empower buffs still affecting the medium portion of channeled heavy attacks (Lightning and Resto), making medium weaving the optimal choice when using either weapons

Proof (Courtesty of @zvavi from ESO-U)



3. Oakensoul's Empower not working after death unless re-equipped

Proof: Literally in the patch notes




4. Blockade of Elements lasting only 15 seconds despite the patch notes saying that it has been increased by another 10 seconds instead of 4.

Proof: Tooltip in-game and confirmed in casting (Not just a tooltip bug)

acastanza_ESO

#2, Empower still affecting the middle tick of lightning and resto's channeled heavy's is not a bug. This is the intended behavior if you read the patch notes.

This doesn't really create a medium weaving meta as was the original concern because the issue was mainly with the PVE meta inferno staff which is not affected. This was likely done to not significantly negatively affect the damage of lightning staves where it is spread out over the ticks of the channel. This is a good change as lightning saves are primarily used on non-meta heavy attack accessibility builds. Restricting this to only "fully" charged heavy attacks without affecting the middle would have been a significant damage loss unless the damage of the channeled attack was changed to be heavily back-loaded which would have effectively made them no different than an inferno staff.

zbzszzzt123

acastanza_ESO wrote: »

#2, Empower still affecting the middle tick of lightning and resto's channeled heavy's is not a bug. This is the intended behavior if you read the patch notes.

This doesn't really create a medium weaving meta as was the original concern because the issue was mainly with the PVE meta inferno staff which is not affected. This was likely done to not significantly negatively affect the damage of lightning staves where it is spread out over the ticks of the channel. This is a good change as lightning saves are primarily used on non-meta heavy attack accessibility builds. Restricting this to only "fully" charged heavy attacks without affecting the middle would have been a significant damage loss unless the damage of the channeled attack was changed to be heavily back-loaded which would have effectively made them no different than an inferno staff.

Makes sense, will edit

deleted221205-002626

REPENTANCE: Highlighting corpses all over the place from previous peoples kills that are actually unusable!

zbzszzzt123

sinnereso wrote: »

REPENTANCE: Highlighting corpses all over the place from previous peoples kills that are actually unusable!

Is this a new bug?

deleted221205-002626

zbzszzzt123 wrote: »

sinnereso wrote: »

REPENTANCE: Highlighting corpses all over the place from previous peoples kills that are actually unusable!

Is this a new bug?

I didnt notice it previously.. corpses everywhere highlighting as though they can be absorbed.. but cant be and stay highlighted

ZOS_GinaBruno

Thanks for these reports! Will reply to each one below -

zbzszzzt123 wrote: »

1. Maelstrom Destruction Staves not applying increased damage when switched to the other bar (Inconsistent behaviour with every other piece of arena weapons), making it useless in PvE builds at the moment.

Proof (Courtesy of @zvavi from ESO-U)

We're working on a fix for this and are currently discussing when we can publish the fix. Thanks!

2. Empower buffs still affecting the medium portion of channeled heavy attacks (Lightning and Resto), making medium weaving the optimal choice when using either weapons

Proof (Courtesty of @zvavi from ESO-U)

This is actually working as designed since channeled ticks are not considered medium attacks.

3. Oakensoul's Empower not working after death unless re-equipped

Proof: Literally in the patch notes

Hmm, we double checked this internally and the workaround mentioned in the patch notes appears to be working, until we have a chance to push out the real fix. Do you have more info on this?

4. Blockade of Elements lasting only 15 seconds despite the patch notes saying that it has been increased by another 10 seconds instead of 4.

Proof: Tooltip in-game and confirmed in casting (Not just a tooltip bug)

The patch note for the Blockade morph should state it increases the duration by up to 5 seconds - will edit that post now so it's accurate. But to clarify, it should last for a maximum of 15 seconds without any other sources of increases.

Dagoth_Rac

I must say that I am pleased with Empower change. I kind of figured they'd nerf everything except fully charged heavy attacks to avoid medium weaving meta, which would have left resto (good but non-meta for solo PvE) and lightning (good but non-meta for group PvE) in a really bad place. While I think there are too many nerfs to mid-tier players across this patch, the Empower change seems like one of the few bright spots for mid-tier PvE.

Aardappelboom

Hmm, the oakensoul bug seems pretty annoying, especially in PVP or battlegrounds, where you're stuck in combat quite often.

Thanks for the list though, I'm on xbox so I won't be able to contribute until september 6th

virtus753

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for these reports! Will reply to each one below -

zbzszzzt123 wrote: »

1. Maelstrom Destruction Staves not applying increased damage when switched to the other bar (Inconsistent behaviour with every other piece of arena weapons), making it useless in PvE builds at the moment.

Proof (Courtesy of @zvavi from ESO-U)

We're working on a fix for this and are currently discussing when we can publish the fix. Thanks!

2. Empower buffs still affecting the medium portion of channeled heavy attacks (Lightning and Resto), making medium weaving the optimal choice when using either weapons

Proof (Courtesty of @zvavi from ESO-U)

This is actually working as designed since channeled ticks are not considered medium attacks.

3. Oakensoul's Empower not working after death unless re-equipped

Proof: Literally in the patch notes

Hmm, we double checked this internally and the workaround mentioned in the patch notes appears to be working, until we have a chance to push out the real fix. Do you have more info on this?

4. Blockade of Elements lasting only 15 seconds despite the patch notes saying that it has been increased by another 10 seconds instead of 4.

Proof: Tooltip in-game and confirmed in casting (Not just a tooltip bug)

The patch note for the Blockade morph should state it increases the duration by up to 5 seconds - will edit that post now so it's accurate. But to clarify, it should last for a maximum of 15 seconds without any other sources of increases.

Did the extra damage from Empower on Solar Barrage ever get updated to be the full length of the skill, as stated in the tooltip, rather than falling off after the original duration of 8 seconds?

The UI and CMX show the Empower buff, but the actual damage stops being buffed on the PTS.

marius_buys

oof my Templar wants his jabs back

zbzszzzt123

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for these reports! Will reply to each one below -

zbzszzzt123 wrote: »

1. Maelstrom Destruction Staves not applying increased damage when switched to the other bar (Inconsistent behaviour with every other piece of arena weapons), making it useless in PvE builds at the moment.

Proof (Courtesy of @zvavi from ESO-U)

We're working on a fix for this and are currently discussing when we can publish the fix. Thanks!

2. Empower buffs still affecting the medium portion of channeled heavy attacks (Lightning and Resto), making medium weaving the optimal choice when using either weapons

Proof (Courtesty of @zvavi from ESO-U)

This is actually working as designed since channeled ticks are not considered medium attacks.

3. Oakensoul's Empower not working after death unless re-equipped

Proof: Literally in the patch notes

Hmm, we double checked this internally and the workaround mentioned in the patch notes appears to be working, until we have a chance to push out the real fix. Do you have more info on this?

4. Blockade of Elements lasting only 15 seconds despite the patch notes saying that it has been increased by another 10 seconds instead of 4.

Proof: Tooltip in-game and confirmed in casting (Not just a tooltip bug)

The patch note for the Blockade morph should state it increases the duration by up to 5 seconds - will edit that post now so it's accurate. But to clarify, it should last for a maximum of 15 seconds without any other sources of increases.

Thanks for this, nothing more for the Oakensoul one, only added on there for completeness.

Could we have a timeline on the vMA staff fix? Is it going to be a hotfix, a weekly fix or something like next patch, I'm leading a prog group, it would be really nice to let my team know if they are going to have to adjust to this bug we have known about since PTS

ZOS_GinaBruno

zbzszzzt123 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for these reports! Will reply to each one below -

zbzszzzt123 wrote: »

1. Maelstrom Destruction Staves not applying increased damage when switched to the other bar (Inconsistent behaviour with every other piece of arena weapons), making it useless in PvE builds at the moment.

Proof (Courtesy of @zvavi from ESO-U)

We're working on a fix for this and are currently discussing when we can publish the fix. Thanks!

2. Empower buffs still affecting the medium portion of channeled heavy attacks (Lightning and Resto), making medium weaving the optimal choice when using either weapons

Proof (Courtesty of @zvavi from ESO-U)

This is actually working as designed since channeled ticks are not considered medium attacks.

3. Oakensoul's Empower not working after death unless re-equipped

Proof: Literally in the patch notes

Hmm, we double checked this internally and the workaround mentioned in the patch notes appears to be working, until we have a chance to push out the real fix. Do you have more info on this?

4. Blockade of Elements lasting only 15 seconds despite the patch notes saying that it has been increased by another 10 seconds instead of 4.

Proof: Tooltip in-game and confirmed in casting (Not just a tooltip bug)

The patch note for the Blockade morph should state it increases the duration by up to 5 seconds - will edit that post now so it's accurate. But to clarify, it should last for a maximum of 15 seconds without any other sources of increases.

Thanks for this, nothing more for the Oakensoul one, only added on there for completeness.

Could we have a timeline on the vMA staff fix? Is it going to be a hotfix, a weekly fix or something like next patch, I'm leading a prog group, it would be really nice to let my team know if they are going to have to adjust to this bug we have known about since PTS

Right now, we're looking at potentially adding this into the next incremental patch, currently scheduled for the week of Sept 5.

virtus753 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for these reports! Will reply to each one below -

zbzszzzt123 wrote: »

1. Maelstrom Destruction Staves not applying increased damage when switched to the other bar (Inconsistent behaviour with every other piece of arena weapons), making it useless in PvE builds at the moment.

Proof (Courtesy of @zvavi from ESO-U)

We're working on a fix for this and are currently discussing when we can publish the fix. Thanks!

2. Empower buffs still affecting the medium portion of channeled heavy attacks (Lightning and Resto), making medium weaving the optimal choice when using either weapons

Proof (Courtesty of @zvavi from ESO-U)

This is actually working as designed since channeled ticks are not considered medium attacks.

3. Oakensoul's Empower not working after death unless re-equipped

Proof: Literally in the patch notes

Hmm, we double checked this internally and the workaround mentioned in the patch notes appears to be working, until we have a chance to push out the real fix. Do you have more info on this?

4. Blockade of Elements lasting only 15 seconds despite the patch notes saying that it has been increased by another 10 seconds instead of 4.

Proof: Tooltip in-game and confirmed in casting (Not just a tooltip bug)

The patch note for the Blockade morph should state it increases the duration by up to 5 seconds - will edit that post now so it's accurate. But to clarify, it should last for a maximum of 15 seconds without any other sources of increases.

Did the extra damage from Empower on Solar Barrage ever get updated to be the full length of the skill, as stated in the tooltip, rather than falling off after the original duration of 8 seconds?

The UI and CMX show the Empower buff, but the actual damage stops being buffed on the PTS.

Yep, that should be updated to be the full length!

DUTCH_REAPER

Following

virtus753

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

zbzszzzt123 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for these reports! Will reply to each one below -

zbzszzzt123 wrote: »

1. Maelstrom Destruction Staves not applying increased damage when switched to the other bar (Inconsistent behaviour with every other piece of arena weapons), making it useless in PvE builds at the moment.

Proof (Courtesy of @zvavi from ESO-U)

We're working on a fix for this and are currently discussing when we can publish the fix. Thanks!

2. Empower buffs still affecting the medium portion of channeled heavy attacks (Lightning and Resto), making medium weaving the optimal choice when using either weapons

Proof (Courtesty of @zvavi from ESO-U)

This is actually working as designed since channeled ticks are not considered medium attacks.

3. Oakensoul's Empower not working after death unless re-equipped

Proof: Literally in the patch notes

Hmm, we double checked this internally and the workaround mentioned in the patch notes appears to be working, until we have a chance to push out the real fix. Do you have more info on this?

4. Blockade of Elements lasting only 15 seconds despite the patch notes saying that it has been increased by another 10 seconds instead of 4.

Proof: Tooltip in-game and confirmed in casting (Not just a tooltip bug)

The patch note for the Blockade morph should state it increases the duration by up to 5 seconds - will edit that post now so it's accurate. But to clarify, it should last for a maximum of 15 seconds without any other sources of increases.

Thanks for this, nothing more for the Oakensoul one, only added on there for completeness.

Could we have a timeline on the vMA staff fix? Is it going to be a hotfix, a weekly fix or something like next patch, I'm leading a prog group, it would be really nice to let my team know if they are going to have to adjust to this bug we have known about since PTS

Right now, we're looking at potentially adding this into the next incremental patch, currently scheduled for the week of Sept 5.

virtus753 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for these reports! Will reply to each one below -

zbzszzzt123 wrote: »

1. Maelstrom Destruction Staves not applying increased damage when switched to the other bar (Inconsistent behaviour with every other piece of arena weapons), making it useless in PvE builds at the moment.

Proof (Courtesy of @zvavi from ESO-U)

We're working on a fix for this and are currently discussing when we can publish the fix. Thanks!

2. Empower buffs still affecting the medium portion of channeled heavy attacks (Lightning and Resto), making medium weaving the optimal choice when using either weapons

Proof (Courtesty of @zvavi from ESO-U)

This is actually working as designed since channeled ticks are not considered medium attacks.

3. Oakensoul's Empower not working after death unless re-equipped

Proof: Literally in the patch notes

Hmm, we double checked this internally and the workaround mentioned in the patch notes appears to be working, until we have a chance to push out the real fix. Do you have more info on this?

4. Blockade of Elements lasting only 15 seconds despite the patch notes saying that it has been increased by another 10 seconds instead of 4.

Proof: Tooltip in-game and confirmed in casting (Not just a tooltip bug)

The patch note for the Blockade morph should state it increases the duration by up to 5 seconds - will edit that post now so it's accurate. But to clarify, it should last for a maximum of 15 seconds without any other sources of increases.

Did the extra damage from Empower on Solar Barrage ever get updated to be the full length of the skill, as stated in the tooltip, rather than falling off after the original duration of 8 seconds?

The UI and CMX show the Empower buff, but the actual damage stops being buffed on the PTS.

Yep, that should be updated to be the full length!

Thank you for the quick replies and responsiveness! It is much appreciated.

Draxund

zbzszzzt123 wrote: »

Did the extra damage from Empower on Solar Barrage ever get updated to be the full length of the skill, as stated in the tooltip, rather than falling off after the original duration of 8 seconds?

Whooaa... this would explain a lot. I made a new HA build and rotation for Templar capitalizing on Empower, but the numbers seemed lower than expected in my PTS testing. Perhpas this is culprit...

xStaticx

Will the console patch include the fix for the VMA staff when we get it on Sept 6?

deleted221205-002626

Avarice of the Eldertide Daily quest in high isle still requires being completely out of group to complete and even to get boss kill credit, not just clicky's!

doesurmindglow

It would be interesting to create a version of this list for the old bugs that U35 has not fixed, ie. if the Dungeon Finder is still kicking half the group to a weird purgatory status of both offline and logged on every other time the queue tries to port you in to the instance.

Jamie_Aubrey

Aardappelboom wrote: »

Hmm, the oakensoul bug seems pretty annoying, especially in PVP or battlegrounds, where you're stuck in combat quite often.

Thanks for the list though, I'm on xbox so I won't be able to contribute until september 6th

*laughs in not having the ring*

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

Hope they fixerd magma incarnate too. The set wasn't able to proc when equipped with dressing room.

I had to take a piece off and re-equip then the heal would activate it.

Sad times if you are using hard to get set pieces, hey.

Varana

Aardappelboom wrote: »

Hmm, the oakensoul bug seems pretty annoying, especially in PVP or battlegrounds, where you're stuck in combat quite often.

It's also bad for grouped PvE because when you die and get resurrected, you can't re-equip the ring either.

CaperGuy

Varana wrote: »

Aardappelboom wrote: »

Hmm, the oakensoul bug seems pretty annoying, especially in PVP or battlegrounds, where you're stuck in combat quite often.

It's also bad for grouped PvE because when you die and get resurrected, you can't re-equip the ring either.

I hope the fix for that one comes quick. I’ve been working on several heavy attack Oakensoul PvE based builds for when this update hits console and it’ll be annoying to try and use these builds if I die at all on like….a boss fight or something. I’ll hit like a wet noodle for the rest of the fight.

ZOS_Suserial

Moved to title/thread related channel

HowellQagan

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Danel_Vadan

Will these be fixed on console release?

francesinhalover

sinnereso wrote: »

REPENTANCE: Highlighting corpses all over the place from previous peoples kills that are actually unusable!

same is happening with necromancer's necrotic potency

francesinhalover

i mean on trials my blastbones doesn't create corpses so i can't use detonating siphon, but this happened before this update.

FeedbackOnly

Did they ever *** sugar skulls UI error? It's been literally years and bars still shrink leaving dungeons

Erorah

May we PLEASE get the Eldertide Theurges bosses / quest [everything about this WB from the kill to the geodes to proximity to TIMER] fixed in one of these hotfixes? I have yet to be able to complete this WB since the release of High Isle. Stood around this evening for another 40 minutes to no avail.


E.

virtus753

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Thank you again for your responses to the earlier issues raised here.

Could we please get a fix or a developer comment for Ritual of Retribution? That is a ground DoT that was extended to 20 seconds in week 1 of the PTS and never reverted, severely hindering its power in most actual content, since many bosses tend to move out of our ground DoTs. Recasting Ritual is even more harmful now given its halved tooltip and the increase to its ramping damage.

Even in the 8.1.5 live notes, the developers state that ground DoTs will be between 10 and 15 seconds in deference to the fact that in actual content bosses do move and cause us to recast our ground AoEs. But Ritual remains 20 seconds long instead of 12 and has remained so despite weeks of bug reports and requests for an explanation.

Could we please get a comment as to whether this is intended, and if so, why? This skill is now incredibly dependent on whether the target will sit in it for the full duration, which is not the case for many fights. Why has this skill seemingly been forgotten while other ground AoEs were reverted to shorter durations? If it's intentional, a comment stipulating to that with insight into why would be much appreciated.