Do You have hope for Tomorrow's Final PTS patch?

prof_doom

At this point, even if the changes were all good on paper, there's zero chance it goes live as anything but an untested, buggy disaster.

Destyran

I hope they just shelve it and actually look at what they are doing and I hope if they don’t fix it for the players that all players cancel their subs and they hurt from this *** patch

Dagobertfuk

Elsonso wrote: »

I can remember when patch notes were also something to look forward to...

Must be before 2k18. After that year i started to hate zos after they took away bleeds from axes, halfed health regen, nerfed lingering health pots and so on.

Dagobertfuk

Patch notes when?????????? I have no patience

Firstmep

Mayrael wrote: »

Empower useless for PvP because of DK's. Oakensoul nerfed because of DK's. DoT's nerfed because of DK's. Templars nerfed because of DK's? O_o :P :P :P Sometimes it's hard to follow ZOS logic. I'll stay unsubbed till I see something more than just empty promises. Fortunetly I've managed to setup everything in such way I can do daily writs without crafting bag. It was easier than I thought. FInally I'm free, thanks ZOS.

Oaken was broken op on more than just dk tbh.
Templar nerfs, well i wouldn't be suprised if they thought the jabs changes were a net positive, somehow.

chessalavakia_ESO

It'll be interesting to see if Isobel is still using the old jabs animation or not.

A fair number of discussions have occurred over the past year or so regarding the older generation consoles memory issues limiting/preventing skill additions.

If she's still using the old jabs either they failed to notice or the console memory issues are not actually limiting the game from adding new skill animations because they'd be spending memory on a skill animation for just a companion which you wouldn't do if you had severe resource limitations.

MashmalloMan

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

It'll be interesting to see if Isobel is still using the old jabs animation or not.

A fair number of discussions have occurred over the past year or so regarding the older generation consoles memory issues limiting/preventing skill additions.

If she's still using the old jabs either they failed to notice or the console memory issues are not actually limiting the game from adding new skill animations because they'd be spending memory on a skill animation for just a companion which you wouldn't do if you had severe resource limitations.

It's just an excuse the playerbase gobbled up and likes to repeat to come up with some sort of reason we're stuck with mini games each year instead of new classes, weapons, guilds or spell crafting..

Remember when for 6 years, they said new servers wouldn't improve performance?..

StarOfElyon

DeathStalker wrote: »

Do you believe they will make sound adjustments tomorrow or will they try to find ways to keep all their nerfs and claim they raise the floor somehow? Do you have hope your fav or main class will still be playable as it is or are you expecting to have to rework it from the ground up AGAIN? I expect Templars to be still gutted and useless as well as oakensoul. I expect they will try to do just enough to calm the fervor. I hope I am wrong but I see nothing that says I will be. Their silence is deafening. I'm so disappointed with this PTS. I must be crazy, cause I still want to hope for positive changes tomorrow.

This patch was the nail in the coffin for my belief that ZOS could make good decisions. Everything they do is a wild swing in one direction or another. And so many months of grief can be avoided if they listened to the player consensus more.

SpacemanSpiff1

it's gonna be really good.

Rhaegar75

I hope the nerf to templars will be reduced or at last softened but I don't think this is a realistic expectation. If this is the case my only response will be to deactivate my Eso+...I'm sure ZOS will survive without my money!

danthemann5

Consider that poopfist is still a thing and stamwhip still isn't.

Consider that after so many years, ZOS still hasn't figured out how combat should work.

Consider how what should be surgical adjustments are made with an axe.

At this point, hope is for fools.

katorga

danthemann5 wrote: »

Consider that after so many years, ZOS still hasn't figured out how combat should work.

That is perfect!

Remathilis

danthemann5 wrote: »

At this point, hope is for fools.

The Edge, man the EDGE!

edward_frigidhands

No.

BrentBlemish

Bluestin wrote: »

I've actually just been standing by watching the game's development after having not played for awhile, as I was excited to return. This is just more of the same update-fatigue inducing mass upheaval changes I remember taking a break over.

I distinctly remember the first time I experienced it first hand during the Murkmire -> Scalebreaker patch where DoTs were suddenly over-buffed to an obvious degree only to then be nerfed into a state worse than they were during the Murkmire patch.

At this point I can only really hope for a reversion of the vast majority of the class based combat changes (The gear based changes seem more acceptable).

man idc what anyone says, those massive DoT buffs back in the day was the most fun ive ever had playing a stamDK lmao. My venom Claw back then went from being godly to this PTS patch being... idk... a wet noodle feels like a compliment to what it actually is. It went from Venom Claw to Sour Nails

Wyrd88

This topic should be a poll with a "lol" option.

Ardan147

At this rate I'm almost expecting to see something like "Incapacitating Strike: Is now a one-shot against other players when attacking from behind and stealthed. [snip]"

[edited for bashing]

Sandman929

Well, I was not disappointed in my disappointment.

Skjaldbjorn

Wardens should never have had hope. That way they couldn't be disappointed.

DeathStalker

Templar is ruined in its current form, and oakensoul is useless except for heavy attack builds. SMH. Hope was vanity I guess. At least I save $15 a month now.

Sandman929

They've really hit the sweet spot combining [snip] with confidence. Worst combat patch ever, and that was such a tall order.

[edited for bashing]

neferpitou73

DeathStalker wrote: »

Templar is ruined in its current form, and oakensoul is useless except for heavy attack builds. SMH. Hope was vanity I guess. At least I save $15 a month now.

Yep was debating on renewing sub no chance in hell after this disaster.

Trundik

They said they will change magblade and I almost believed in it, but...

Jingleclaw

Well, so long everybody. Time to move on.

Four_Fingers

Ruined my Templars, finally this is the end.

Suddwrath

This entire PTS cycle has been a fever dream.

Lady_Galadhiel

Damn, no chance my guys will run the new DLC dungeons with me after seeing this.

YandereGirlfriend

Rest in peace all Wardens, especially MagDens in PvP.

DeathStalker

neferpitou73 wrote: »

DeathStalker wrote: »

Templar is ruined in its current form, and oakensoul is useless except for heavy attack builds. SMH. Hope was vanity I guess. At least I save $15 a month now.

Yep was debating on renewing sub no chance in hell after this disaster.

Mine run out About a week ago. Was ready to sub a year if jabs and burning light was fixed with hope for oakensoul. Now, there is no way I sub with templar like this.

Skjaldbjorn

Live look at Zos' combat dev team addressing Wardens.